System Name | Apex Raptor: Silverback |
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Processor | Intel i9 13900KS Allcore @ 5.8 |
Motherboard | z790 Apex |
Cooling | LT720 360mm + Phanteks T30 |
Memory | 32GB @8000MT/s CL36 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 |
Storage | 990 PRO 4TB |
Display(s) | Neo G8 / C1 65" |
Case | Antec Performance 1 |
Audio Device(s) | DT 1990 Pro / Motu M2 |
Power Supply | Prime Ultra Titanium 1000w |
Mouse | Scimitar Pro |
Keyboard | K95 Platinum |
Only that Steam stats count only for the store platform users. Steam users are a small number of all machines running Windows. Simple mafs.
System Name | Merc v8 |
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Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | 2x 16GB-6000 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 4070 Ti SUPER |
Storage | Solidigm P44 1TB & 2TB, Crucial MX500 2TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ROG Swift PG27UQR |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S8 |
Audio Device(s) | Schiit Magni & Modi, Edifier S351DB, DT 770 PRO |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex PX-850 |
Mouse | Logitech G600 |
Keyboard | Glorious GMMK Pro custom |
Software | W11Pro |
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
It's in their DNA. For years, Microsoft had this cop-out, where they would hide lack of meaningful improvements behind a shiny new UI (basically exactly the opposite of what Apple does). It seems this has survived Mr Nadela's overhaul of the company.MS lacks vision required to design a new OS from scratch and what we get instead are botched attempts at merging multiple branches over code that's been there for decades. They had UI designed for tablets, then someone saw a screenshot of this or a demo and said "Ok, let's put this in 11" without considering how will it work on regular displays that are 1080p or even lower res. Once eleven got released someone else decided that Office 365 needs to have the same type of design applied to it so now actual real estate when using any office app is greatly reduced because everything is 40% bigger.
I could design better UI in Paint.
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And you could still shave off lots of useless pixels that are there simply because UI is to be used on a touchscreen. That stupid top bar always has Icon, search bar and maybe filename. Why the hell does it have to take so much desktop real estate?
Could it be that gamers aren't representative of all Windows users?Steam hardware survey says otherwise. Higher than you'd think in such a short amount of time.
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE |
Memory | 2x16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 Rev E @ 3800 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | RTX3080 Ti FE |
Storage | SX8200 Pro 1 TB, Plextor M6Pro 256 GB, WD Blue 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 34GN850P-B |
Case | SilverStone Primera PM01 RGB |
Audio Device(s) | SoundBlaster G6 | Fidelio X2 | Sennheiser 6XX |
Power Supply | SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 750W |
Mouse | Endgame Gear XM1R |
Keyboard | Wooting Two HE |
Yeah, one of our big pharma clients is still using Windows 7 PC's to run software designed for specific instruments. They don't update those unless manufacturer sends in a new machine for replacement and that one has new software that requires new operating system.Could it be that gamers aren't representative of all Windows users?
Hell, enterprise alone will throw a monkey wrench into those stats, I'm sure you can still find some running Win7 or 8.
System Name | Nebulon B |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSi PRO B650M-A WiFi |
Cooling | be quiet! Dark Rock 4 |
Memory | 2x 24 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5-4800 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB |
Storage | 2 TB Corsair MP600 GS, 2 TB Corsair MP600 R2 |
Display(s) | Dell S3422DWG, 7" Waveshare touchscreen |
Case | Kolink Citadel Mesh black |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech Z333 2.1 speakers, AKG Y50 headphones |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime GX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 SE |
Software | Bazzite (Fedora Linux) KDE |
Everybody cries about the UI. Whether you're a fan of it or not, let's be honest - there's barely anything else that Windows 11 offers over 10 at the moment. At least I can't name anything from the top of my head. This is exactly the problem, imo: Windows 11 is essentially Windows 10 with a (badly executed) UI overhaul and a TPM 2.0 requirement. Who needed this, honestly?sorry to break the 2 pages of shitposting!
Processor | Ryzen 5700X |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte B550 Arous Elite V2 |
Cooling | Thermalright PA120 |
Memory | Kingston FURY Renegade 3600Mhz @ 3733 tight timings |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse RX 6800 |
Storage | 36TB |
Display(s) | Samsung QN90A |
Case | be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 |
Audio Device(s) | Khadas Tone Pro 2, HD660s, KSC75, JBL 305 MK1 |
Power Supply | Coolermaster V850 Gold V2 |
Mouse | Roccat Burst Pro |
Keyboard | Dogshit with Otemu Brown |
Software | W10 LTSC 2021 |
Except when it's not broke don't fix it! Windows has been arguably the more superior platform to Mac for eons, you don't want to break it just because someone likes or doesn't like the new UIwhere they would hide lack of meaningful improvements behind a shiny new UI (basically exactly the opposite of what Apple does).
Processor | Ryzen 5700X |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte B550 Arous Elite V2 |
Cooling | Thermalright PA120 |
Memory | Kingston FURY Renegade 3600Mhz @ 3733 tight timings |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse RX 6800 |
Storage | 36TB |
Display(s) | Samsung QN90A |
Case | be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 |
Audio Device(s) | Khadas Tone Pro 2, HD660s, KSC75, JBL 305 MK1 |
Power Supply | Coolermaster V850 Gold V2 |
Mouse | Roccat Burst Pro |
Keyboard | Dogshit with Otemu Brown |
Software | W10 LTSC 2021 |
agree pretty much with everything but my fav is 8.1, so fucking fast while having basically a modern win7 UI, start menu wasnt that big of a deal i rarely use it.Well no surprise here. I was waiting for something from microsoft to convince me to switch from Windows 7 to a newer OS but it seems more and more that I will switch to linux. I've been playing around with Intel's Clear Linux(funny enough runs equaly good on both Intel and AMD platforms unlike W11) so far in a VM envirionment but I think I'm ready to make the hustle and put it on bare metal. Funny thing is that it might actually have better support through 3rd party tools for ages old game titles than windows 10. Yes most of the time is not just click and install but have any of you recently tried to install NFS Porsche on anything different than Windows 98
Windows 98 - kinda ok
Windows 98SE - much better
Windows ME - it was good but there were more blue screens in general than 98SE
Windows 2000 - It was a rock solid OS never had a crash but at the time there was barely any software that supported but this improved with the introduction of XP
Windows XP - well it was heavy and buggy SP1 improved stability SP2 imporved it further and made it a bit faster , SP3 made it lightning fast.
Windows 2003 - very fast compared to XP SP1 used it for 3 years as my main OS
Vista - well what to say it was way too heavy for most of the HW at the time , the new driver model and no backward compability with legacy hardware was just the final nail in the coffin of Vista. People were paying to downgrade them to XP
Windows 7 - my sunshine almost as fast as XP SP3 , stable , modern UI yet everything was in place,backward compatible with lot's of stuff , people switched really fast to it , it was and it is that good!
Windows 8 - never gave it a chance , too much UI changes that I did not like and no appearent reason for me to switch.
Windows 8.1 - I put it on one convertible touch laptop/tablet Thinkpad x220t and I it was definetly fast , the UI was kinda almost back to Win7 except the fullscreen start menu , I was just about to give it a chance at my main rig and Win10 came out and now Windows 8.1 is less supported than Windows 7
Win 10 - what to say - I don't like the idea of having MS tracking everything , I don't like how much RAM it sucks for nothing , I don't like the sudden updates that happen some times even with windows update swtiched off! I had troubles with different softwares after couple of MS updates. Some settings reverted , driver issues with legacy hardware. It just won't do for my main rig. I have it in my office , i have it on one machine at home , that I mostly use as a NAS and a network printer.
Win 11 - well it is just a 10 with a nice new cover , UI seems kinda good but yet i prefer W7 classic UI , and the minimum HW spec because of security reasons is just a bummer and big show stopper to the adoption of this new OS given the fact how expensive is the hardware this days.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 3700x |
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Motherboard | asus ROG Strix B-350I Gaming |
Cooling | Deepcool LS520 SE |
Memory | crucial ballistix 32Gb DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3070 FE |
Storage | WD sn550 1To/WD ssd sata 1To /WD black sn750 1To/Seagate 2To/WD book 4 To back-up |
Display(s) | LG GL850 |
Case | Dan A4 H2O |
Audio Device(s) | sennheiser HD58X |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 |
Mouse | MX master 3 |
Keyboard | Master Key Mx |
Software | win 11 pro |
Multiscreen memory ? a more intuitive way to choose a layout to fit several windows on one screen ? The Bluetooth panel is less painful to use ? The sounds settings are finally unified ? It's not much, but win 11 did have a few qol adjustment.It's in their DNA. For years, Microsoft had this cop-out, where they would hide lack of meaningful improvements behind a shiny new UI (basically exactly the opposite of what Apple does). It seems this has survived Mr Nadela's overhaul of the company.
Seriously, take the UI out of the equation and try to find a single useful thing about 11. And I mean useful for the end user, because the "account required" is useful, but only for Microsoft - more data for them to mine.
Could it be that gamers aren't representative of all Windows users?
Hell, enterprise alone will throw a monkey wrench into those stats, I'm sure you can still find some running Win7 or 8.
Windows 2000 to XP to vista was also a big switch in design . Microsoft is also starting to feel the weight of the "One OS for all". MacOs know what it is : a desktop OS IpadOS is a touch Os. Both platform have apps designed specifically for them. MacOS isn't schizophrenic like Windows, when they are doing a UI overhaul they meant it, and they get through with it.I use to think that MS is like that prodigy kid with inferiority complex. It has a crush on those dumb but good looking Apples and Androids (and now also on that nerd Linux) and tries to imitate them, instead of appreciating his own crowd and following its expectations. It could very well set the trends, it actually did, but then always withdrawn and disappointed his fellows. It's like Windows' parents don't know what it is and try to make it something else than it strongly really is...
Switching back and forth from colourful to monochrome UI? Making desktop and server os touch driven? Getting great UI "out of the way" with tiny hiding scroll bars and by removing all visible divisions to sections, like everyone has Asperger? Total chaos. Like there's no long term strategy or insight into the past.
I suspect that there's a lot of rotation inside MS and it gets infected with people who at home use Macs, talk with their colleagues via Android phones, and the only thing they have in common with Windows is that they develop it on Linux
Do you have an idea how many office PC and home PC don't run Steam at all? Steam may have millions of installs but that's still nowhere near to the total amount of PC worldwide. Again, simple mafs.Not quite as small as you're making it out to be, but yeah sorry to break the 2 pages of shitposting!
System Name | BUBSTER |
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Processor | I7 13700K (6.1 GHZ XTU OC) |
Motherboard | Z690 Gigabyte Aorus Elite Pro |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer II 360 RGB |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB DDR4 4800MHz 2x16GB |
Video Card(s) | Asus GeForce RTX 3070 Super Dual OC |
Storage | Kingston KC 3000 PCIE4 1Tb + 2 Kingston KC 3000 1TB PCIE4 RAID 0 + 4 TB Crucial gen 4 +12 TB HDD |
Display(s) | Sony Bravia A85 j OLED |
Case | Corsair Carbide Air 540 |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar Essence STX II |
Power Supply | Corsair AX 850 Titanium |
Mouse | Corsair Gaming M65 Pro RGB + Razr Taipan |
Keyboard | Asus ROG Strix Flare Cherry MX Red + Corsair Gaming K65 lux RGB |
Software | Windows 11 Pro x64 |
System Name | AM5 |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen R9 7950X |
Motherboard | Asrock X670E Taichi |
Cooling | EK AIO Basic 360 |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance DDR5 5600 64 Gb - XMP1 Profile |
Video Card(s) | AMD Reference 7900 XTX 24 Gb |
Storage | Crucial Gen 5 1 TB, Samsung Gen 4 980 1 TB / Samsung 8TB SSD |
Display(s) | Samsung 34" 240hz 4K |
Case | Fractal Define R7 |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME PX-1300, 1300W 80+ Platinum, Full Modular |
M$ couldn't get all settings in one place for over a decade! This alone speaks enough.agree pretty much with everything but my fav is 8.1, so fucking fast while having basically a modern win7 UI, start menu wasnt that big of a deal i rarely use it.
Win 11, UI seems nice but its horrible in practice.
Also, they should stick to win7 control panel or switch it altogher instead of going piece by piece making a mess.
Processor | Ryzen 5700X |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte B550 Arous Elite V2 |
Cooling | Thermalright PA120 |
Memory | Kingston FURY Renegade 3600Mhz @ 3733 tight timings |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Pulse RX 6800 |
Storage | 36TB |
Display(s) | Samsung QN90A |
Case | be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 |
Audio Device(s) | Khadas Tone Pro 2, HD660s, KSC75, JBL 305 MK1 |
Power Supply | Coolermaster V850 Gold V2 |
Mouse | Roccat Burst Pro |
Keyboard | Dogshit with Otemu Brown |
Software | W10 LTSC 2021 |
It made a few qol improvements while ruining a lot of other qol aspects, thats what microsoft does every time in a cycle, probably in 2/3 years there will be an usable win11 version but for now its a pain in the ass.Multiscreen memory ? a more intuitive way to choose a layout to fit several windows on one screen ? The Bluetooth panel is less painful to use ? The sounds settings are finally unified ? It's not much, but win 11 did have a few qol adjustment.
System Name | Upgraded CyberpowerPC Ultra 5 Elite Gaming PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI B450M Pro-VDH Plus |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE |
Memory | CM4X8GD3000C16K4D (OC to CL14) |
Video Card(s) | XFX Speedster MERC RX 7800 XT |
Storage | TCSunbow X3 1TB, ADATA SU630 240GB, Seagate BarraCuda ST2000DM008 2TB |
Display(s) | AOC Agon AG241QX 1440p 144Hz |
Case | Cooler Master MasterBox MB520 (CyberpowerPC variant) |
Power Supply | 600W Cooler Master |
8.1 was basically a fixed version of 8, which put back the start menu and other features that had been removed. 8.1 wasn't great because its performance sucked, but it wasn't unusable like 8 was.Windows 11 is basically Windows 10.1, ala Win8-8.1.
I don't recall either 8 or 8.1 being well liked or popular.
When I worked retail tech in the 8-8.1 era, almost every new PC customer wanted Windows 7; some even paid us to 'downgrade' their purchase to Windows 7.
It really doesn't surprise me that 11 is a non-starter.
Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
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Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE |
Memory | 2x16 GB Crucial Ballistix 3600 CL16 Rev E @ 3800 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | RTX3080 Ti FE |
Storage | SX8200 Pro 1 TB, Plextor M6Pro 256 GB, WD Blue 2TB |
Display(s) | LG 34GN850P-B |
Case | SilverStone Primera PM01 RGB |
Audio Device(s) | SoundBlaster G6 | Fidelio X2 | Sennheiser 6XX |
Power Supply | SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 750W |
Mouse | Endgame Gear XM1R |
Keyboard | Wooting Two HE |
You sound like MS repIt's hardly unusable, if you're fine with win10 it isn't that big of a deal.
System Name | Negra5 |
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Processor | i5 6500 |
Motherboard | ASUS Z170M-Plus |
Cooling | Cooler Master Hyper TX3 |
Memory | Kingston HyperX 16GB DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | PNY GTX-1070, XFX RX480 |
Storage | Gigabyte 256GB SSD, WD 1TB HDD, WD 4TB HDD. |
Display(s) | SAMSUNG 32" FullHD |
Case | GAMING EAGLE WARRIOR CG-06R1 |
Audio Device(s) | nVidia HD Audio |
Power Supply | Corsair GS800W 80 Plus Bronze |
Mouse | Cooler Master Devastator MS2k |
Keyboard | Cooler Master Devastator MB24 |
Software | Windows 10 20H2 |
Benchmark Scores | Pfft |