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Hmm. Don't know then. I will run it again tomorrow just to be certain and report in.

EDIT: Maybe it's that I am clean installing from media with the fix already on it? Are you using an older media? No idea...

Windows is up to date. Seems like new AGESA finally fixed the problem, went to the 3904 BIOS.

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That makes sense, if it was an AGESA issue being triggered by 11
 
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I have a weird windows 11 bug I keep my computer on but turn off my monitor every time I turn on my monitor I have to reset my scaling in windows because it's messed up if I have an app open full screen it doesn't come all the way down to the taskbar tel I reset the scaling
 

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I have a weird windows 11 bug I keep my computer on but turn off my monitor every time I turn on my monitor I have to reset my scaling in windows because it's messed up if I have an app open full screen it doesn't come all the way down to the taskbar tel I reset the scaling

That could be in the Nvidia drivers?
 
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That could be in the Nvidia drivers?
I'll look into updating the driver hope it fixes it

darn I used DDU then installed the latest driver I don't think its a driver issue I think it's a windows bug
I googled the issue a wile back and I'm not the only one
 
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I will post this here as i do not know where else to post it, and it is kinda windows related.

Here is a pic of my desktop using aquasuite to show data on the desktop. The great part is that the data shown is live and updates in real time, but is not "on" the desktop, more in it. So a pic or window can go over the top of it. It is not the same as a widget on the desktop or a program page on the screen showing temps etc. I think this is really cool.

I have made them more see through as it looks a bit better. I think you can change the colours too but i haven't played with that yet. Here is a couple of pics. As you can see on the second pic, the displays are not selectable.
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darn I used DDU then installed the latest driver I don't think its a driver issue I think it's a windows bug
I googled the issue a wile back and I'm not the only one

Well, that doesn't surprise me at all. Frigging Win 11 shouldn't have been released yet, as it's still kind of a damn beta OS!
 

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Ok, fair enough. I'm going to suggest what @Mussels stated above. You might be having a driver issue. Try reinstalling your drivers with an older version and see if the problem persists. If not, stick with the older drivers and wait a few versions until they work out the problem. If the problem persists, we might try other options. Screenshot would help use visualize the problem and give us a hint as to the possible solution.
 
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Ok, fair enough. I'm going to suggest what @Mussels stated above. You might be having a driver issue. Try reinstalling your drivers with an older version and see if the problem persists. If not, stick with the older drivers and wait a few versions until they work out the problem. If the problem persists, we might try other options. Screenshot would help use visualize the problem and give us a hint as to the possible solution.
I don't think it's the driver it could be that I have a 28-inch 4k monitor and a 55 inch 4k TV hooked up but in windows settings, I have the TV turned off but it could be messing with the scaling when I turn off the monitor and when I mean I reset the scaling I mean I do it in windows, not the Nvidia control panel
edit the monitor is hooked up by display port and the TV is hooked up by HDMI
 
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I don't think it's the driver it could be that I have a 28-inch 4k monitor and a 55 inch 4k TV hooked up but in windows settings, I have the TV turned off but it could be messing with the scaling when I turn off the monitor and when I mean I reset the scaling I mean I do it in windows, not the Nvidia control panel
edit the monitor is hooked up by display port and the TV is hooked up by HDMI

I have my 58" 4k tv hooked up, but disconnect it when i am not using it, so what you are saying could be right. try disconnecting the TV and see if windows shows the same behaviour with the scaling.
 

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What? Those numbers look ok for a 5900X. Am I missing something?

I don't think it's the driver it could be that I have a 28-inch 4k monitor and a 55 inch 4k TV hooked up but in windows settings, I have the TV turned off but it could be messing with the scaling when I turn off the monitor and when I mean I reset the scaling I mean I do it in windows, not the Nvidia control panel
edit the monitor is hooked up by display port and the TV is hooked up by HDMI
Then stop turning them off manually. Leave them on while your PC is on and shut them off when you shut down your PC. Simple solution.
 
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2423 is still the old 1203C BIOS, same as 3801 on my board. Weird to see that they haven't pushed out the 1205 BIOS yet for most B550s yet, which is what the new 3901 for my board is.

What? Those numbers look ok for a 5900X. Am I missing something?

L3 numbers are terrible and should be 600-900MB/s consistently on every run for a 5900X/5950X, if it's on Windows 10 or bugfixed Windows 11.
 

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What? Those numbers look ok for a 5900X. Am I missing something?


Then stop turning them off manually. Leave them on while your PC is on and shut them off when you shut down your PC. Simple solution.
no reason to get testy I leave my pc on all the time so it can do all kinds of maintenance that I got it set to do I only turn my monitor and tv off
 

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Seriously? I'm sure you meant GB/s.


I was looking at the latency numbers, which looked fine. What point release of 11 are you on?
The newest one I guess? It’s all up to date from windows update. No new bios update for my board either.. it has been out of stock at newegg for over a month.. I have a feeling they stopped making it and replaced it with a more expensive model that lacks the terrible Intel lan that mine has.

Also, latency, L1, and L2 performance were always normal, L3 was/is in the toilet
 
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I was wondering if it would be worth updating my bios im on v 2311 which is a old bios but my CPU is almost 2 years old so i don't know if it would make a difference
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The newest one I guess? It’s all up to date from windows update. No new bios update for my board either.. it has been out of stock at newegg for over a month.. I have a feeling they stopped making it and replaced it with a more expensive model that lacks the terrible Intel lan that mine has.

Also, latency, L1, and L2 performance were always normal, L3 was/is in the toilet

Okay it may have been a little premature to call it "fixed" based on the latency results.........but it's Windows 11 so no surprise there. Same firmware always delivers superior and consistent results just from switching over to the other drive's Windows 10 installation, whether CPU ST, CPU MT, DRAM or cache benchmarks.

I've stopped caring though. Windows 11 games smoother, cooler, and feels as snappy as 10 now so I don't really have a reason to care about Win 11's piss poor benchmark performance. It's also AIDA of all things (lmao) what a joke

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