Windows 11 General Discussion

P4-630 · Jun 12, 2022

How do I startup GlassWire with high priority?
It doesn't have any option like that in glasswire settings.

DarkPoe · Jun 14, 2022

I just migrated from 10 to 11 and while playing WZ (basically the only game that I play), I get stutters all night... Like microstutters which are obnoxious

I think I might roll back... I know Warzone is a shitty game, but with 10 it never happened (other issues? sure, but not this one)

I'm on a X570 1.2.0.7 AGESA 5800X with 22621.4 latest drivers 512.95 RTX 3080TI... I have tried disabling/enabling Secure Boot/TPM but without any clear fix

If anyone could lend me a hand, great... But if not, then I'll roll back in a few days

AlwaysHope · Jun 14, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
Should work fine. If you have any issues, let us know and we'll walk you through tweaking the Windows ISO to make it work.

AMD doesn't support R9 series in win 11, but I take it that MS have a 'generic' driver for this line of cards built into win 11?
Just checking cause' I don't want any dramas when upgrading. If I do, I'll just revert back to win 10.

lexluthermiester · Jun 14, 2022

AlwaysHope said:
AMD doesn't support R9 series in win 11

Seriously? Um, the Windows 10 drivers work in Windows 11. Install, enjoy.

windwhirl · Jun 14, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
Seriously? Um, the Windows 10 drivers work in Windows 11. Install, enjoy.

Last driver was 21.5.2. It should work tho, at least the driver part.

P4-630 · Jun 14, 2022

DarkPoe said:
I get stutters all night... Like microstutters which are obnoxious

AMD system?

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Thanks, Since i'm using a 5600 I'm guessing old bioses are out of the question. I will just settle with +200 then. No WHEA errors at 3800C16, I will try to see If i can push Freq up or latencies down. Thanks for the advice. I'm using the 5600 non-x so the base/boost frequencies are 3.5/4.4...

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lexluthermiester · Jun 14, 2022

windwhirl said:
Last driver was 21.5.2. It should work tho, at least the driver part.

Control panel will work fine too. I have been using Windows 7 drivers for an R5-250 in Windows 11 without flaw.

DarkPoe · Jun 14, 2022

P4-630 said:
AMD system?

Intermittent System Stutter Experienced with fTPM Enabled on Windows® 10 and 11

Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

Thanks, Since i'm using a 5600 I'm guessing old bioses are out of the question. I will just settle with +200 then. No WHEA errors at 3800C16, I will try to see If i can push Freq up or latencies down. Thanks for the advice. I'm using the 5600 non-x so the base/boost frequencies are 3.5/4.4...

www.techpowerup.com

Like I said, I have tried disabling Secure Boot/TPM and I'm also on AGESA 1.2.0.7

boomheadshot8 · Jun 14, 2022

i'll stick to win10 as long as support is here, even after because win"daube" 11 is really buggy

theFOoL · Jun 14, 2022

I mean I'm loving WiN11 with the Explorer PATCH LINK

ThrashZone · Jun 14, 2022

boomheadshot8 said:
i'll stick to win10 as long as support is here, even after because win"daube" 11 is really buggy

Hi,
I use 10 more on z490 but did start using explorer patcher for start menu.. and windows explorer for old style menu bar always pissed me off they hid the preview pane icon !
So it's better now
Most the issue now, is a given, to much security nonsense but W1zards gpu tweak strings help a lot with that to remove pretender oops I mean defender/ microsoft security
But really I'm just waiting for MS to lock 11 down so I can have a good laugh :laugh:

Splinterdog · Jun 14, 2022

Just for kicks, I installed an MSI R5670 from 2011 in a Windows 11 machine for testing purposes and I didn't even need to look for a driver. Catalyst Control Center was installed immediately with the correct resolution and no weird letterbox appearance that I've experienced before.
Impressed!

ThrashZone · Jun 14, 2022

Splinterdog said:
Just for kicks, I installed an MSI R5670 from 2011 in a Windows 11 machine for testing purposes and I didn't even need to look for a driver. Catalyst Control Center was installed immediately with the correct resolution and no weird letterbox appearance that I've experienced before.
Impressed!

Hi,
Yep pretty easy so far to leap frog over any incompatible security requirements
10 would find the same driver/ updates as 11 does so nothing new there.

Splinterdog · Jun 14, 2022

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Yep pretty easy so far to leap frog over any incompatible security requirements
10 would find the same driver/ updates as 11 does so nothing new there.

With respect, older Radeon cards don't always behave themselves and are not given the benefit of Win 10/11 auto drivers install. Often one ends up with underscan and the Catalyst driver suite doesn't fully install.
I've come across this several times, but managed to find a workaround which applies to both Win 10 and 11.

How To Fix Legacy AMD GPU Underscan, Windows 10 | Daves Computer Tips

My front desk computer in the shop has an Athlon 64 x 2 fitted with a Radeon HD 4550 graphics card, which today is considered a legacy GPU and although drivers are available for Windows 7 and 8…

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AlwaysHope · Jun 15, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
Seriously? Um, the Windows 10 drivers work in Windows 11. Install, enjoy.

Thank you for your advice!

lexluthermiester · Jun 15, 2022

boomheadshot8 said:
even after because win"daube" 11 is really buggy

No it isn't.

Ahhzz · Jun 15, 2022

lexluthermiester said:
No it isn't.

There are always going to be bugs in Windows, especially since the in-house beta teams were removed from Microsoft. And some people are more or less tolerant of those bugs. Responding to a statement of it being buggy with "No it isn't" really isn't factual, nor conducive to a disccussion. It's like telling someone who's sad "No you're not".

lexluthermiester · Jun 15, 2022

Ahhzz said:
There are always going to be bugs in Windows

That's fair. Allow me to rephrase:

boomheadshot8 said:
because win"daube" 11 is really buggy

It's not got any serious bugs that would inconvenience most users and has been very stable since the end of the beta-preview program. Sure there are minor glitches but that exists in all software to some extent.

Ahhzz said:
Responding to a statement of it being buggy with "No it isn't" really isn't factual, nor conducive to a discussion.

It can be, especially when the user making the statement seems to be doing it to be provocative. Windows 11 is actually far more stable and bug/glitch free than Windows 10 was in it's early days and is on par with the experience had by Windows 7 before SP1.

So saying "no it isn't", might not be a collected series of statements designed to establish a preposition, but that does not mean it is not a valid response. The user in question made a statement that assumes a context without establishing what that context is. It was terse and dubious. It warranted only a response in kind. But I digress...

boomheadshot8 · Jun 15, 2022

I discovered a bug at office, when wifi is on the UI is bugged : you can't close or open any windows : I am not spending 4h per day to fixe problems because MS "force" them to upgrade ; it was working fine before the update, so I told people not to do the upgrade or they fix bugs themselves (for some they can't even turn on the pc)
It's common on all windows : you skip like windows vista or win 8, it's the same here for win11, I wait for win12.

lexluthermiester · Jun 15, 2022

boomheadshot8 said:
I discovered a bug at office, when wifi is on the UI is bugged : you can't close or open any windows

Have not seen that. Perhaps a driver problem?

boomheadshot8 said:
I am not spending 4h per day to fixe problems because MS "force" them to upgrade ; it was working fine before the update, so I told people not to do the upgrade or they fix bugs themselves (for some they can't even turn on the pc)

Ok, disable automatic updates or at least defer them for as long as possible. Don't let microsoft force you into being their lab-rat. That's on you.

ThrashZone · Jun 15, 2022

Splinterdog said:
With respect, older Radeon cards don't always behave themselves and are not given the benefit of Win 10/11 auto drivers install. Often one ends up with underscan and the Catalyst driver suite doesn't fully install.
I've come across this several times, but managed to find a workaround which applies to both Win 10 and 11.

How To Fix Legacy AMD GPU Underscan, Windows 10 | Daves Computer Tips

My front desk computer in the shop has an Athlon 64 x 2 fitted with a Radeon HD 4550 graphics card, which today is considered a legacy GPU and although drivers are available for Windows 7 and 8…

davescomputertips.com

Hi,
I have no experience with amd hardware so I'll take your words on that

One of the things that has always kept me from choosing amd is driver issues glad 11 worked out better

On 11 bugs
I just turned on wifi on z490 the other day because no cabling in new house yet so might be able to see about the window opening or closing issue next week.
Worked fine on 10 as you say boom.

Popups for updates well those have been pretty typical
One didn't have to be on auto install updates to be upgraded
The messages were simply the new windows is ready just click download and install so easy to think it was just another bs update no big deal.

lexluthermiester said:
No it isn't.

To be fair your installs are so off default really how would you know what default install is like ?

Guess a general no details other than "11 is buggy" deserves a "no it isn't" response

theFOoL · Jun 15, 2022

Yeah just *sometimes I need to "After logging in" disable/enable my Wi-Fi just saying. Other than that I'm liking 11 with the explorer patch that is...

lexluthermiester · Jun 15, 2022

ThrashZone said:
To be fair your installs are so off default really how would you know what default install is like ?

Personal installs, sure. Installs in my shop are nearly default. You were saying?

ThrashZone said:
Guess a general no details other than "11 is buggy" deserves a "no it isn't" response

Exactly.

theFOoL said:
Yeah just *sometimes I need to "After logging in" disable/enable my Wi-Fi just saying. Other than that I'm liking 11 with the explorer patch that is...

I never logoff or shutdown until the networks are disabled as a security precaution.

ThrashZone · Jun 15, 2022

Hi,
Brief usage is different than constant usage with many restart or cold startups
Just removing show more from context menu freaks 11 out a little :laugh:

lexluthermiester · Jun 15, 2022

ThrashZone said:
Brief usage is different than constant usage with many restart or cold startups

I've done both.

ThrashZone said:
Just removing show more from context menu freaks 11 out a little

I have seen no evidence of this.

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