Windows 11 General Discussion

[Space Lynx]

I was getting that problem. Trying win 10 again for a while. i have partitioned my win drive, so have the option of running win 10 and 11 dual, without having to lose win 10 now.

yep I keep my personal stuff in corner of my desktop, and work stuff in my taskbar, that way I don't get them mixed up when zooming.

but when i go idle to go fix my lunch or w.e, i come back click on personal icon on desktop like magic arena to play a game, it takes like 10 seconds before it will let me click on it.

its fucking infuriating.

 

[R-T-B]

I'd also like to know why when I go idle in Windows 11, when I return its like a 10-15 second delay before I am allowed to click on icons on my desktop, the taskbar icons still work instantly.

Makes no fucking sense, it annoys shit out of me.

This one has been bugging me when I boot into windows 11 lately yeah. I think it's related to the "mouse polling optimizations" they did, but like billy, if I can't click things it's not a good optimization...

 

[Mussels]

I'd also like to know why when I go idle in Windows 11, when I return its like a 10-15 second delay before I am allowed to click on icons on my desktop, the taskbar icons still work instantly.

Makes no fucking sense, it annoys shit out of me.

Because your hard drives have idled and thats how long they take to wake up

 

[FoulOnWhite]

I have an external hdd in a usb slot in caddy, so could be that doing it in my case.

 

[Mussels]

I have an external hdd in a usb slot in caddy, so could be that doing it in my case.

Absolutely, the insane delay is why i have my externals on a powered hub and disconnect it from the PC unless i'm actively using them - they can cause a 5 second system freeze each, and tend to stagger spin up so more drives takes longer.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Absolutely, the insane delay is why i have my externals on a powered hub and disconnect it from the PC unless i'm actively using them - they can cause a 5 second system freeze each, and tend to stagger spin up so more drives takes longer.

Would it be worth not having the drive power down? would it harm the drive. My caddy has a power switch so i can turn it off to switch the hdd that is slotted in it.

 

[R-T-B]

Because your hard drives have idled and thats how long they take to wake up

But I have SSDs only. NVMe even.

 

[freeagent]

My spell check/autocorrect is broken.. it is enabled.. Funny thing is, it has to be a setting or something because its been like this for 3 installs. But it works fine on my other rig. Almost ready to buy a new key lol..

Any ideas on how to fix it?

 

[FoulOnWhite]

After installing both 10 and 11 dual boot and trying them, my conclusion is windows 10 is better. Had 11 on for one day and already had errors with it, and had none with win 10.

 

[lexluthermiester]

would it harm the drive.

Not likely. Modern HDDs are rated for millions of hours of operation before first expected failure. Power-up/Spin-up cycles are more likely to cause wear than just keeping the drive running while the PC is on. I've been doing this since 2008ish and have not experienced any problems with my drives.

But I have SSDs only. NVMe even.

Really?!? That's crazy..

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Not likely. Modern HDDs are rated for millions of hours of operation before first expected failure. Power-up/Spin-up cycles are more likely to cause wear than just keeping the drive running while the PC is on. I've been doing this since 2008ish and have not experience any problems with my drives.


Really?!? That's crazy..

How do i get it to run all the time? in power settings somewhere?

 

[lexluthermiester]

How do i get it to run all the time? in power settings somewhere?

Yuppers. Windows management settings generally. Set your drive sleep times to "0" which is the same as telling Windows to never put the drive to sleep.

This is my personal setting;

240minutes is a setting that, for me, strikes the best balance of performance for my use case.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Yuppers. Windows management settings generally. Set your drive sleep times to "0" which is the same as telling Windows to never put the drive to sleep.

Done, i wonder if win 11 will still do the freeze thing, will see if it was the drive going to sleep.

 

[R-T-B]

Really?!? That's crazy..

Never claimed to be sane. Not sure what my issue is then. Only happens for like 10 seconds at boot.

EDIT: I do use HDDs but not on this system, the NAS is chock full of Ultrastars...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Never claimed to be sane.

You madcap you!!

Not sure what my issue is then. Only happens for like 10 seconds at boot.

Weird.

EDIT: I do use HDDs but not on this system, the NAS is chock full of Ultrastars...

Fair enough.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Never claimed to be sane. Not sure what my issue is then. Only happens for like 10 seconds at boot.

EDIT: I do use HDDs but not on this system, the NAS is chock full of Ultrastars...

Do the drives in the NAS not sleep, or is that controlled by the NAS controller?

 

[R-T-B]

Do the drives in the NAS not sleep, or is that controlled by the NAS controller?

Well I've disabled all the APM and similar on them so I really doubt they are sleeping. And yeah that would depend on the OS on the NAS, not the clients.

 

[Mussels]

Would it be worth not having the drive power down? would it harm the drive. My caddy has a power switch so i can turn it off to switch the hdd that is slotted in it.
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the power switch stops the issue entirely
The problem is modern drives have their own internal sleep timers to be 'green' and this ignores windows settings

windows staggers wakeup to stop power surges (for enterprise, originally) but that slows the whole procedure down


If you have a CD/DVD drive still, you get the same freeze ejecting a disk

 

[Lei]

When does Win 23h2 ISO be available?

Download Windows 11 (microsoft.com)

still 22h2

 

[Mussels]

It's only an insider preview, so not gunna happen until its a proper release

Windows 11 23H2 new features and changes (KB5030310) - Pureinfotech

The way they're doing the rollouts is confusing as many of those features are in 22H2 already

 

[Lei]

It's only an insider preview, so not gunna happen until its a proper release

Windows 11 23H2 new features and changes (KB5030310) - Pureinfotech

The way they're doing the rollouts is confusing as many of those features are in 22H2 already

October 10.

Tomorrow:
Windows 11 Field Guide to Get Free Updates for 23H2 - Thurrott.com

 

[chrcoluk]

It's only an insider preview, so not gunna happen until its a proper release

Windows 11 23H2 new features and changes (KB5030310) - Pureinfotech

The way they're doing the rollouts is confusing as many of those features are in 22H2 already

That code change in explorer might cause havoc on all explorer patching apps .

Also what is that recommended stuff, they recommending personal files to view now?

 

[lexluthermiester]

The problem is modern drives have their own internal sleep timers to be 'green' and this ignores windows settings

That depends on the drive and is a setting that can generally be disabled using the manufacturer utilities.

If you have a CD/DVD drive still, you get the same freeze ejecting a disk

I always have optical drives and have never seen this. What freeze are we talking about specifically?

 

[theFOoL]

Updates on Sig uploaded both MBR/UEFI with bypass 23H2

 

[FoulOnWhite]

I see microsoft added dynamic lighting to win 11 for controlling RGB directly, it does not work on my system atm though, would be nice if it did.