Windows 11 General Discussion

ThrashZone · Oct 22, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
I think I'm still missing something. Are you all say that Windows 11 is self-activating without a key input?

Hi,

That was firefox's original question really
His first 11 clean install self activated and three more which wasn't surprising but the first one is

Probably tagged him from all the prior 11 beta/ insider installs.

stiffmeister · Oct 22, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
Sounds like it's applying daylight savings time ?

Something like that, hopefully I have solved the UK/US language problem by removing all US language, KB options etc, though the time issue persists as I have just installed insider build 22483.1000 and my time has gone back an hour after the update, keyboard language settings have held this time, now I have disabled "set time automatically" and "adjust for daylight saving time" and set the correct time, hopefully that will stick until daylight savings come into play again and I can just change it manually.

theFOoL · Oct 23, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
I think I'm still missing something. Are you all say that Windows 11 is self-activating without a key input?

Yes, at least... When I login with my account

Again though I'll probably go and try that other method as I know there is a CMD I know of when I searched some months back. The only thing I say... Is that All other Scripts I have for windows 10 works with windows 11

Mussels · Oct 23, 2021

lexluthermiester said:
I might be missing something, but why is that Googles fault/problem?

Anyway, with Windows 10/11 you should just be able to plug the drive in and let it rediscover the new hardware. Windows will need reactivation but if you have a retail CDKey, that should go smoothly. If you have an OEM key and it doesn't work, then you'll need to call the activation center. I've never seen them not activate.

Googles not able to find any information on secure boot that isn't recent discussions on how to break its requirements for W11

Everythings flooded with repetitive, irrelevant information to what i actually seek despite secure boots age

lexluthermiester said:
I think I'm still missing something. Are you all say that Windows 11 is self-activating without a key input?

If the same system was activated with W10, yes.
Why? Because the use the same activation system and keys.

FireFox · Oct 23, 2021

Mussels said:
If the same system was activated with W10, yes.
Why? Because the use the same activation system and keys.

Even if you never used a Microsoft account?

theFOoL · Oct 23, 2021

you know guy's Gmail or any other Emails are allowed not just M$/Hotmail-Now called Outlook Eh...

Mussels · Oct 23, 2021

FireFox said:
Even if you never used a Microsoft account?

They use a hardware hash, so yes. I believe MAC address of eth adaptor is a key there (even if you're not using it)

ThrashZone · Oct 23, 2021

theFOoL said:
you know guy's Gmail or any other Emails are allowed not just M$/Hotmail-Now called Outlook Eh...

Hi,
You should be able to use a gmail account for a ms account if that's what you're asking.

theFOoL · Oct 23, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Hi,
You should be able to use a gmail account for a ms account if that's what you're asking.

Yes that's right I know that. Just thought maybe other's didn't

Mussels · Oct 23, 2021

theFOoL said:
you know guy's Gmail or any other Emails are allowed not just M$/Hotmail-Now called Outlook Eh...

Wait people didn't know that? I've always used Gmail for it

I dont think i can even use my Hotmail/Outlook email... havent logged in for a decade
Edit: yeah it's now somehow working with my Gmail login, as a new account.

Hugis · Oct 23, 2021

Android in 11 works well with adb, i side loaded iplayer and a few other things and boom works great.

I did have to enable these for it to work : see below

ThrashZone · Oct 23, 2021

Hi,
Yeah funny how much uses hyper-v and there for core isolation security features.

Same clocks and tweaks from @W1zzard scripts win-10 on top
Windows 11,

I scored 70 589 in Night Raid

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Windows 10,

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windwhirl · Oct 23, 2021

ThrashZone said:
Yeah funny how much uses hyper-v and there for core isolation security features.

Not really, virtualization features keep it relatively snappy while adding a security layer

Hugis said:
Android in 11 works well with adb, i side loaded iplayer and a few other things and boom works great.

View attachment 222047

I did have to enable these for it to work : see below
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So sideloading is already there. Cool!

Hugis · Oct 23, 2021

windwhirl said:
Not really, virtualization features keep it relatively snappy while adding a security layer

So sideloading is already there. Cool!

Yup

micropage7 · Oct 23, 2021

Hugis said:
Android in 11 works well with adb, i side loaded iplayer and a few other things and boom works great.

View attachment 222047

I did have to enable these for it to work : see below
View attachment 222046

looks good, now i can play plants vs zombies on my laptop without adding emulator

Hugis · Oct 23, 2021

micropage7 said:
looks good, now i can play plants vs zombies on my laptop without adding emulator

want me to try?

micropage7 · Oct 23, 2021

Hugis said:
want me to try?

if u don't mind
just curious how far win 11 perform the apps on cross OS

Hugis · Oct 23, 2021

well it ask me my age with a slider then crashed the app, i used this version btw
plants-vs-zombies-free-2-9-10.apk

Edit : im guessing it might be because of no google store/play.. looking into it now

ThrashZone · Oct 23, 2021

windwhirl said:
Not really, virtualization features keep it relatively snappy while adding a security layer

Hi,
Same as running a virtual machine android is the os and it's app is what you're accessing.
Point being it's all sharing resources with the host os being win-11 and mostly using 11 memory.

lexluthermiester · Oct 23, 2021

stiffmeister said:
if installing to a previously activated Windows 10 PC, yes

Well of course, but that's not a fresh install.

ThrashZone said:
Hi,

That was firefox's original question really
His first 11 clean install self activated and three more which wasn't surprising but the first one is

Probably tagged him from all the prior 11 beta/ insider installs.

Ah ok, that makes more sense.

I was thinking that I'd never heard of Windows activating itself without a CDKey having been inputted by the user. OEM system frequently do this but that is because they have the OEM CDKey nested in the BIOS code.

Mussels said:
Googles not able to find any information on secure boot that isn't recent discussions on how to break its requirements for W11

Everythings flooded with repetitive, irrelevant information to what i actually seek despite secure boots age

Oh my bad. I must have missed the secureboot part.. AFAIK, a secureboot enabled install will not migrate to a new PC even if you transfer the TPM key with it and the cryptographic keys are locked to the hardware profile of the drive, the host motherboard and maybe the CPU. While I could be wrong on part of that, I've never been able to make a install migration work on a secureboot enabled install, which is one of the reasons I firmly refuse to work with secureboot.

FireFox · Oct 23, 2021

Something i find pretty stupid is that you can install windows on your Pc then remove the SSD go to your friend house install your SSD into his Pc and use your OS with Microsoft activated :kookoo:

If that how Microsoft works then good for them.

theFOoL · Oct 23, 2021

FireFox said:
Something i find pretty stupid is that you can install windows on your Pc then remove the SSD go to your friend house install your SSD into his Pc and use your OS with Microsoft activated
If that how Microsoft works then good for them.

Well to my knowledge the activation process isn't done by systems installs or whatever but by a script in which a file tells the OS your Activated

On the note... As I mentioned earlier awhile back I just searched and here's my first results LINK

ThrashZone · Oct 23, 2021

FireFox said:
Something i find pretty stupid is that you can install windows on your Pc then remove the SSD go to your friend house install your SSD into his Pc and use your OS with Microsoft activated
If that how Microsoft works then good for them.

Hi,
Now that's a real windows to go lol
But version they use might make a difference.

FireFox · Oct 23, 2021

theFOoL said:
Well to my knowledge the activation process isn't done by systems installs or whatever but by a script in which a file tells the OS your Activated

On the note... As I mentioned earlier awhile back I just searched and here's my first results LINK

A copy of windows installed and activated on X Pc when transferred to another Pc it should allow you to continue using the OS but deactivate it.

theFOoL · Oct 23, 2021

FireFox said:
A copy of windows installed and activated on X Pc when transferred to another Pc it should allow you to continue using the OS but deactivate it.

That is true just like I made a Go Edition of 11 Ha

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