Windows 12

BSim500 · Nov 6, 2022

ARF said:
I think is time now for Windows 12.

Based on Microsoft's "We continue to streamline the Windows experience by removing the Start Menu and Taskbar altogether plus further dumbing down Explorer", perhaps I'm actually already using it?...

SomeOne99h · Nov 6, 2022

Imagine they call "Windows 1 Remake" like they do with games?

P4-630 · Nov 6, 2022

I won't be upgrading right away, I'll wait at least 6 months or even longer if there's not much difference with gaming vs windows 11.

If my hardware officially supports it!
TPM 3.0? nohave... :banghead:

TheinsanegamerN · Nov 6, 2022

68Olds said:
I haven't even tried Win11 yet, so I'm certainly not ready for Win12.

Vista's biggest problem was MS's unrealistic minimum required RAM (512MB). I ran Vista 32bit with 2GB of RAM for a while without issue. It was even better after I put 4GB in the system.

(Favorite number is 42).

Disagree, the biggest issue with vista was MS's new driver requirements and the lack of enforcement allowing manufacturers to repackage XP drivers that caused instability.

Vista was very pretty, and by sp1 it was fine, but launch vista suffered from the same issue as windows ME, with similar results.

AsRock · Nov 6, 2022

qubit said:
What do you mean by that?

l’m looking forward to Windows 13 as 13 is one of my favourite numbers.

Nothing better than the number of change, got such a rap over the years haha.

Lei · Nov 6, 2022

I'd rather call it Windows 24 if it's being released on 2024.

I want grey theme in addition to dark and light. with file explorer background being greyish.
like this color:

c:\ ------- d:\ ------- e:\

xtreemchaos · Nov 6, 2022

Oh No not again I've only just got use't to W10, I've W11 on my lappy and intel rigg and I'm like a chicken on crack who's lost its head, it took me 3 days just to find the NVidia control Pannel and delete.

Tomgang · Nov 6, 2022

Guys haven't you been reading about this news. Next will be called macdows. Mac and Microsoft has been in a collaborative efforts to make it all better. They call it macdows as said before.

Well more seriously. I just wish for a upgraded windows 7. Windows 7 still stands as the best windows in my opinion. It's was deffently the windows I liked the most. So I don't know about windows 12. I haven't even tried windows 11 yet.

Lei · Nov 6, 2022

Tomgang said:
Guys haven't you been reading about this news. Next will be called macdows. Mac and Microsoft has been in a collaborative efforts to make it all better. They call it macdows as said before.

Well more seriously. I just wish for a upgraded windows 7. Windows 7 still stands as the best windows in my opinion. It's was deffently the windows I liked the most. So I don't know about windows 12. I haven't even tried windows 11 yet.

pavle · Nov 6, 2022

This time around we need triangular windows so that a few versions after that MS will be able to sell rounded rectangular windows as new release again. :shadedshu:

Space Lynx · Nov 6, 2022

ARF said:
I think is time now for Windows 12.

What features would you want to see?
DirectX 13 with unlimited detail technology?
Improved DirectStorage, so fast PCIe SSDs are properly utilised?
Fixed scaling with high-DPI monitors like 8K?

View attachment 268742
windows 12 release date - Google Search

win 11 and dx12 hasn't even had a single directstorage game yet. im guessing you made this topic to make a joke... but if you serious. lol

Zareek · Nov 6, 2022

Windows 12 should be a decent release according to the typical M$ cadence going back to at least Windows 95. Every other major release is not so good for at least the first year and gradually gets better until boom a new major release comes out that fixes everything or nearly everything.

TheinsanegamerN said:
Disagree, the biggest issue with vista was MS's new driver requirements and the lack of enforcement allowing manufacturers to repackage XP drivers that caused instability.

Vista was very pretty, and by sp1 it was fine, but launch vista suffered from the same issue as windows ME, with similar results.

IMO, both the RAM requirements and the driver issues made Vista a train wreck initially. It certainly got a LOT better with SP1. The 64bit version was pretty darn good if you threw at least 4 GB of RAM at it. At that time, 4 GB was a lot of RAM!

I have zero nostalgia for Windows ME. To me, it was horrible any way you sliced it. I remember Windows 98SE being the breath of life Windows 98 needed because 98 was so BAD. Microsoft then went backwards with ME, maybe not 98 initial release bad, but terrible anyway. I spent many hours downgrading ME users to 98SE, right up until Windows XP launched. XP changed everything. I can remember the first BETA release, it was already 10 times better than any consumer Windows OS before that time.

lexluthermiester · Nov 7, 2022

ARF said:
I think is time now for Windows 12.

What features would you want to see?
DirectX 13 with unlimited detail technology?
Improved DirectStorage, so fast PCIe SSDs are properly utilised?
Fixed scaling with high-DPI monitors like 8K?

View attachment 268742
windows 12 release date - Google Search

This is just rumor.

ARF · Nov 12, 2022

Windows 11 is such a crap. Maybe the worst Windows since Vista and 8 which both had disappointing performance. One was with heavy system requirements, while the other lacked key features like the Start.

Windows 11 is no different - it doesn't run officially on most CPUs that are currently in the world, and lacks features - small icons in the Taskbar, clock with seconds in the time/date window in bottom right corner... and many more.

It is a shitshow. Windows 11 is a shitshow.

P4-630 · Nov 12, 2022

Whining over a new windows version will never end......

ARF · Nov 12, 2022

P4-630 said:
Whining over a new windows version will never end......

But with every next version it becomes ever more unpleasant and difficult for use. Windows 11 is like a passive genocide over the users.

I will be rolling back to Windows 10 on my main system.

DrCR · Nov 12, 2022

P4-630 said:
Whining over a new windows version will never end......

True, but increasingly the user is the product, not the OS.

Bomby569 · Nov 12, 2022

DX versions or Direct Storage are not dependent on a new OS, they will come to W11 for sure

LifeOnMars · Nov 12, 2022

If Windows 12 is 'Endgame'

Then Windows Vista must have been 'Age Of Ultron'....nearly destroyed by their own creation :laugh:

lexluthermiester · Nov 12, 2022

ARF said:
Windows 11 is such a crap. Maybe the worst Windows since Vista and 8 which both had disappointing performance. One was with heavy system requirements, while the other lacked key features like the Start.

Windows 11 is no different - it doesn't run officially on most CPUs that are currently in the world, and lacks features - small icons in the Taskbar, clock with seconds in the time/date window in bottom right corner... and many more.

It is a shitshow. Windows 11 is a shitshow.

Not it isn't. It's actually kick-ass. I will never go back to Windows 10. I'd sooner(and eagerly) go back to Windows 7. People claiming that Windows 11 is "crap" haven't taken the time to try it out to any great degree. And just an FYI, Vista was great after SP1 and perfect after SP2. You're right about 8/8.1 though, hot steamy moose muffins.

ARF said:
It is a shitshow. Windows 11 is a shitshow.

No, it isn't. Widely popular? No. But a "shitshow" it is not. Of course, I'm talking about my highly customized version of 11. I never run Windows in it's default config(and never will), but that is the same as Windows 10 and even 7. I actively(and forcefully) remove all of microsoft's bloatware/fluff/garbage they add in.

P4-630 · Nov 12, 2022

Bomby569 said:
DX versions or Direct Storage are not dependent on a new OS, they will come to W11 for sure

DirectStorage 1.1 Now Available

The DirectStorage team is pleased to share that GPU decompression with DirectStorage 1.1 is available now. This new version of DirectStorage contains everything a developer needs to get started with GPU decompression. For more information on this feature and how it benefits gamers,

devblogs.microsoft.com

DirectStorage 1.1 Coming Soon

When we shared our first public release of DirectStorage on Windows to reduce CPU overhead and increase IO throughput, we also shared that GPU decompression was next on our roadmap. We are now in the final stretch of development and plan to release DirectStorage 1.1 with GPU Decompression to...

devblogs.microsoft.com

ARF · Nov 30, 2022

This is why we need M$ to sit on their a$$es and write a proper OS.
What type of $hit $how is this? :banghead:

How do you read it? :fear:

P4-630 · Nov 30, 2022

ARF said:
This is why we need M$ to sit on their a$$es and write a proper OS.
What type of $hit $how is this?

How do you read it?

View attachment 272324

ARF · Nov 30, 2022

P4-630 said:

I am sorry to see that M$ puts more efforts in trolling us than in making something good. It's a really sad world that we live in. Nightmare, absolute hell.

natr0n · Nov 30, 2022

I'll check it out.

Lately I've been playing with stripped down custom builds. It will be interesting to see what comes out.

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Windows 12

Are you ready for next Windows, Windows 12?

Yes

No

I will decide after first reviews

BSim500

SomeOne99h

P4-630

TheinsanegamerN

AsRock

TPU addict

Lei

xtreemchaos

Tomgang

Lei

pavle

Space Lynx

Astronaut

Zareek

lexluthermiester

ARF

P4-630

ARF

DrCR

Bomby569

LifeOnMars

lexluthermiester

P4-630

DirectStorage 1.1 Now Available

DirectStorage 1.1 Coming Soon

ARF

P4-630

ARF

natr0n

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