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Huh? You serious? 8.1 now has a proper start menu? How'd you do that?
I think it was a recent update but I've not been using the pc much so can't be sure but I Did nothing and use no alternative like classic start hence why I bothered mentioning it.
 

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From what I understand tho, it's not supposed to be fully functional start menu tho, is that right? I think that's why I am still using Start8, because it duplicates all the functionality of W7 Start menu.
 
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It's exactly what I expected in every way and is the same as sevens pretty much.

In fact it is seven s with few if any differences wtf guys just look
 

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You must have something installed or someone else might have...I have not seen a true start menu in Windows 8/8.1, I am highly skeptical that it just magically appeared for only you and no one can confirm this for them...this perks my interest purely because of how many Win 8/8.1 workstations I have used, worked on, installed, updated, configured, etc. Not a single one has a Windows 7 style start menu without another program being installed. I prefer classic start and do an install of that, runtimes, browsers, MBAM, etc. from Ninite.com.

Screenshots please, left click and right click on start button. Also verify the listings in your Programs and Features.
 
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Wow wheres the faith or eyeballs ,is it really just mine and hence some proper weird shit ,I'll look in detail when I get home in a bit.
 

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Wow wheres the faith or eyeballs ,is it really just mine and hence some proper weird shit ,I'll look in detail when I get home in a bit.
C'mon...you know the saying. Screens or it didn't happen. :p

An MS-provided start menu in Windows 8 is like me changing the flow of the Missouri river at this point, especially with all the efforts put forth on Windows 10. I want to believe it, but I need to see it to believe it...and maybe finding what update did this for you. I work around Windows 8/8.1 and Server 2012/2012R2 rigs every day...and not a single one of them has a start menu update from Microsoft. So one person on one tech forum stating it seems like something is odd or off. Tell me that wouldn't make you curious.

:toast:
 

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Yeah, just installed 8.1 pro last night, ran through all available and optional updates, still no start menu. Waiting for screenshots.
 

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I feel that Win 10 preview is 8.1 + promised start menu w/apps (hybrid) and slight tweaking to overall theme/window appearance...tacking on multiple desktops and a few other windows size/placement options. All useful and good, but not enough to warrant a new OS. I don't think it compares to what Windows 7 was to Vista....not at this stage at least. Maybe it's too early to expect that...I think not though.

I ran a test with full screen VM on my main rig...and my old lady and oldest boy both said...hey you got a new start menu...I like the other one better. Lol! I like classic start better than the new start menu at this point, but a few tweaks and it'll be good...it's pretty solid now.

I'm glad I kept out of the hype machine on 9/10. I'd be massively disappointed more-so than just meh at this point with 10. I hope it's all a dirty ploy and it turns out to be a free upgrade or 8.2... I'll be keeping 8.1 with classic shell as my primary OS on all my systems and Ubuntu 14.04.1 as secondary. 10 is not convincing enough to replace my stable daily driver.
 
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sounds like someone installed startisback+ or classic shell
Mystery solved I've been noobing , its classic shell and was installed by my house mates son without me knowing the shit sooooo,, er sorry all I genuinely would never have put it on cos I was all good with 8 as is.
 

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I wonder if we on 8.1 will get DX12 also as an afterthought, like W7 got DX11?
 

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didnt windows 7 always have dtx11?
 

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(scratches head)....I'm trying to remember that far back, LOL! I guess you may be right.

More correctly, they will likely treat us like they did XP, and wouldn't give them DX10...altho that carrot and stick approach didn't work with tje millions that stayed on XP.
 

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xp was a shit OS from the start yo. never liked it.
 

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I seem to be having issues with shutting down on 8.1 Pro.
I've turned off Hybrid Shutdown, or whatever that so called fast boot thing is in Windows power button options. I've set the power button to shut down when I press it, but my PC still won't shut down properly. I press the power button, and the screen says it's shutting down, I get no signal to my monitors, but the fans still keep spinning and I can see the LED on my GPU. One thing that does happen is I hear my HDD stop spinning and that's it.
How in God's green earth do I get this damn thing to shut down? Is there something in the BIOS that screws with it too???
 
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I seem to be having issues with shutting down on 8.1 Pro.
I've turned off Hybrid Shutdown, or whatever that so called fast boot thing is in Windows power button options. I've set the power button to shut down when I press it, but my PC still won't shut down properly. I press the power button, and the screen says it's shutting down, I get no signal to my monitors, but the fans still keep spinning and I can see the LED on my GPU. One thing that does happen is I hear my HDD stop spinning and that's it.
How in God's green earth do I get this damn thing to shut down? Is there something in the BIOS that screws with it too???
Have you tried deactivating "Turn on fast start-up" ? and also might want to check "When I press sleep button" set it to do nothing.

I remember having this problem maybe a year ago, don't quite rememeber how I solved it. Is your Win 8.1 up to date?
 

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Have you tried deactivating "Turn on fast start-up" ? and also might want to check "When I press sleep button" set it to do nothing.
I assume by fast start up you mean the power options where I disabled Hybrid Shutdown (Fast Boot). In which case, yes. Unless there's something in BIOS too?
That print screen isn't mine, just stating that's the fast startup I've disabled.

Yeah I don't have a sleep button, but still set it to do nothing anyway.
And yes, all up to date.
 
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I assume by fast start up you mean the power options where I disabled Hybrid Shutdown (Fast Boot). In which case, yes. Unless there's something in BIOS too?
That print screen isn't mine, just stating that's the fast startup I've disabled.

Yeah I don't have a sleep button, but still set it to do nothing anyway.
And yes, all up to date.
Thing is I have now the fast start-up turned on and for some reason I also have the sleep button under power button though I'm on a desktop. It shuts down correctly.

Found this on the net:

If the above solution doesn't fix your problem, you can try to execute following command in Command Prompt. Open Command Prompt as Administrator by right-click on the bottom-left corner and select the same option from the Win+X menu:

bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes

The above mentioned command used to fix a very annoying freezing issue found in Windows 8 Release Preview build. According to Microsoft the issue was fixed in Windows 8 RTM but if you are still facing the issue, you can try the command.

Didn't try it myself, as I said can't remember exactly what I did to solve the problem.
 

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I don't know. The rumour is based on a translation from a quote of a MS India rep. That translation just says "Windows 8 will update automatically" which... really doesn't mean anything. Taken at face value it could be like the Windows 7 to Windows 8 upgrade (you download a setup program an install W8 from within W7) just that the setup program would be push through Windows Update.

Even if the free upgrade is true it could be only true for emerging markets (India, China, etc). I really can't see Microsoft giving away an OS worldwide. That being said I hope they do another $15 upgrade promotion. ;)
I was reading that too, that users of windows 8 could update to win9 for free. But now we get windows 10, would it still be a free upgrade via windows updates for us windows 8.1 users?
 
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de.das.dude

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Benchmark Scores real men do bench presses not bench marks.
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"something better", for who, for you, for M$, for NSA, for any low hacker? I think the problem iti is that M$ use a stick , not a candy , to "sell" the "better"OS...like any software it have cons and pros, when pros are more than cons from some user, that user will see as "better", but it is for him not necessary for others...