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Well true, but at leats they make anything :) in my case CCleaner cleaned 500 MB of temp files once :)

About Linux, more or less but in my case Ubuntu took more time to boot after installing & updating software but it (well ext3) has a "bult-in" real time defrag if I inderstood well :confused:
Yes, I know ccleaner can even clean up to 15GB for people who never cleaned their history lol. Especially if they use Google Chrome. A lot of cached data ... But I prefer to it with one click from browser itself. I've seen slow ubuntu tho it got fast again after installing updates. :)

IMO windows defrag utility is so-so, the best of it is the multiple passes it does when defragging, about the disk cleaner, in my experience didn't clean but memory dumps and IE cache lol
Paging file dont need tuning if you have tons of ram
Defragmenters won't defrag pagefile anyway. The best thing is to delete pagefile (when it's fragmented) booting from live cd time after time and recreate it.
 
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My comp always seems to run unstable after resuming fron standby. It acts like its outta ram then bluescreens and restarts. This actually caused some issues with directx files that were in use and now im probably gonna have to reinstall and just not use standby or hibernate. Ill probably need to run a disc scan too. This is with win7

Yet it works fine on my ibm laptop with xp sp3 and an old 40gb pata with 1.5gb ram
 
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As it stands right now, Im not getting Windows 8 at all. I dont like what they're doing to it. Putting the ribbon in explorer. Hate it. Having that new interface that basically makes you turn your desktop PC into a tablet. Hate it.

Ill pass.
 
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Yes, I know ccleaner can even clean up to 15GB for people who never cleaned their history lol. Especially if they use Google Chrome. A lot of cached data ... But I prefer to it with one click from browser itself. I've seen slow ubuntu tho it got fast again after installing updates. :)

Well in my case was temp files I think from installing Office 2007 lol

About Ubuntu, well I will try the last version :toast:
 
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As it stands right now, Im not getting Windows 8 at all. I dont like what they're doing to it. Putting the ribbon in explorer. Hate it. Having that new interface that basically makes you turn your desktop PC into a tablet. Hate it.

Ill pass.
A place i spend a lot of time at has recently upgraded from word 2003 to 2010, at first i thought it was worse,2 weeks later however now i've got used to the controls i can see why they did it

the ribbon interface is really good when you get use to it, i can actually do things really quickly that used to take a while, and i've discovered features i didn't even know word had

I actually have got vista to the point where it boots at the same rate as ubuntu and a lot of other linux distro's

it's not an OS problem, is people loading their PC up with crap
 

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As it stands right now, Im not getting Windows 8 at all. I dont like what they're doing to it. Putting the ribbon in explorer. Hate it. Having that new interface that basically makes you turn your desktop PC into a tablet. Hate it.

Ill pass.
They're showing desktop use right now here.
 

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I don't see any point to this at all. If you want a faster boot, hybernate the system. All this does is log you off first, then hybernates, big freaking deal. Just leave me logged in and it goes even faster!

Interesting. I wonder if they are signaling an end to mechanical HDD support for OS. Defrags and system images need shut downs to work. Solid drives don't need the defrags so don't need the shut downs. Good move IMO.
The traditional shutdown system is still in the OS for things that require true shutdowns. Otherwise installing programs and drivers and stuff that required a shutdown wouldn't work.

I think this is really confusing people, especially when they are comparing it to the Win7 true shutdown and cold boot. They are comparing a Cold Boot to a Hybernation and trying to pass it off as the same thing.

They're showing desktop use right now here.
I like how he points out that they added an "Up" button to explorer. Yeah, they removed it after XP just to put it back in as a feature in 8 after people bitched about it being gone from Vista and Win7. Next they are going to completely remove the start button for a few versions then add it back in and talk about how amazing it is!:laugh:
 
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Multiple taskbars. At least that is a good thing.
 
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Multiple taskbars. At least that is a good thing.
Yeah, but I already do that with Ultramon(samething with the wallpaper). In fact, did Microsoft buy Ultramon and just integrated it into their OS?:roll:
 

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Watched 20 seconds of it and I already hate it more.
Yeah it wasn't as much of desktop view as I thought it would be. But it seems like it's not gimped, everything pretty much looks like Win7.

Also, 20 seconds of video is a lot to go on. :p

Yeah, but I already do that with Ultramon(samething with the wallpaper). In fact, did Microsoft buy Ultramon and just integrated it into their OS?:roll:
Me too but it's nice to not have to buy another program to do it. :p
 

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Yes, I know ccleaner can even clean up to 15GB for people who never cleaned their history lol. Especially if they use Google Chrome. A lot of cached data ... But I prefer to it with one click from browser itself. I've seen slow ubuntu tho it got fast again after installing updates. :)





Defragmenters won't defrag pagefile anyway. The best thing is to delete pagefile (when it's fragmented) booting from live cd time after time and recreate it.
Is there anyway of verifying your last statement, cuz ive had the paging file moved to another partition which was completely paging, n defragged it just fine.
 
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Why the hell does anyone want this OS on their desktop? They're trying ot turn out desktops into tablet pc's. If I wanted a tablet, id just buy one.
 

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Why the hell does anyone want this OS on their desktop? They're trying ot turn out desktops into tablet pc's. If I wanted a tablet, id just buy one.
They are pretty much only demoing tablet stuff. The short glimpses of desktop we see looks just like Windows 7.
 
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From what I understand reading about Windows 8 on various websites, its not just for tablets, for this touch screen stuff, but for the desktop as well. Which is really pointless IMO.
 

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From what I understand reading about Windows 8 on various websites, its not just for tablets, for this touch screen stuff, but for the desktop as well. Which is really pointless IMO.
Not really, it still has all the traditional Windows experience. However, they've just included the tablet stuff in the Desktop versions for people that like that experience better. It is like an extension of Media Center that includes programs as well now. I don't personally use Media Center, I don't like it, but I know a lot of people that do use and like it. I'm not going to not use the OS because I don't like one feature that is optional to use anyway.
 

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Yeah it wasn't as much of desktop view as I thought it would be. But it seems like it's not gimped, everything pretty much looks like Win7.

Also, 20 seconds of video is a lot to go on. :p
Its enough for me. Granted not for most people. Doesnt take long for me to look or listen to something for me to gauge whether or not I will like something.

Not really, it still has all the traditional Windows experience. However, they've just included the tablet stuff in the Desktop versions for people that like that experience better. It is like an extension of Media Center that includes programs as well now. I don't personally use Media Center, I don't like it, but I know a lot of people that do use and like it. I'm not going to not use the OS because I don't like one feature that is optional to use anyway.
If its an optional install then I could deal with that. If I can cut it out using a n/vlite type program then thats even better.

Ive stopped watching the keynote so I dont know for sure, but before anything was really official or announced for this OS officially, rumors were flying around that Win8 would be heavily cloud based. How true is that?
 
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Ive stopped watching the keynote so I dont know for sure, but before anything was really official or announced for this OS officially, rumors were flying around that Win8 would be heavily cloud based. How true is that?
i'd imagine it has good cloud support but when you look at the internet connection of people worldwide i'd imagine it would be completely optional, otherwise they've lost 70% of their customers
 

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Ive stopped watching the keynote so I dont know for sure, but before anything was really official or announced for this OS officially, rumors were flying around that Win8 would be heavily cloud based. How true is that?
It will be easy to add the possibility to share stuff with others through social media and whatnot. So yes, if you're into that sort of thing.

And I just read the anand article and it seems like this metro thing goes deeper than I thought. But then everything we see now is completely design for tablets as tablets will be the primary target, so that could very well change. Somehow I can't see them alienate everyone with a mouse/keyboard, those are their main customers. We'll see.
 
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Seems to me that the main issue with Windows is too many features...it's a scattergun approach of "pleasing everybody" that ends up pleasing very few entirely. Adds to the ever expanding bloat of the installation. What I want is a slim OS that does just the things I need it to do. Not a butt load of features aimed at other users that I won't ever use.

And is it productive to roll out a new OS before the last OS is even fully adopted? Do we even need a Windows 8 yet? That right there would keep me on Vista another year or two...as expensive as these Windows Installation Disks are I am not interested in buying one every year.
 

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Seems to me that the main issue with Windows is too many features...it's a scattergun approach of "pleasing everybody" that ends up pleasing very few entirely. Adds to the ever expanding bloat of the installation. What I want is a slim OS that does just the things I need it to do. Not a butt load of features aimed at other users that I won't ever use.
Most people just want things to work from the start. You can always slipstream your discs. ;)

And is it productive to roll out a new OS before the last OS is even fully adopted? Do we even need a Windows 8 yet? That right there would keep me on Vista another year or two...as expensive as these Windows Installation Disks are I am not interested in buying one every year.
If MS want to get in the tablet race they could use a new OS right about last year. For desktops it's a resounding no, but tablets is the target with this one.
 
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Most people just want things to work from the start. You can always slipstream your discs. ;)



If MS want to get in the tablet race they could use a new OS right about last year. For desktops it's a resounding no, but tablets is the target with this one.
What windows 8 will do it make those tablets that transform into laptops (http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/ etc), go from good, to amazing, imagine if i could just swap between andriod tablet and full windows whenever i needed too, windows 8 for work, android for fun :)
 

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#49
And is it productive to roll out a new OS before the last OS is even fully adopted? Do we even need a Windows 8 yet? That right there would keep me on Vista another year or two...as expensive as these Windows Installation Disks are I am not interested in buying one every year.
Win8 isn't expected until next year at the earliest, that is a good 3 years. If you haven't adopted Win7 by then we aren't waiting for you. I certainly don't want another Win XP or Win 98, where people got so used to them because nothing new came out in a long enough time that no one wanted to change once something new finally did come out. I'm perfectly fine with a 3-4 year developement cycle between OSes. And I really don't mind paying the ~$100 to move to the new OS every 3-4 years either. I put more than that into hardware in a month, I can put it into software every few years.
 

eidairaman1

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#50
Win8 isn't expected until next year at the earliest, that is a good 3 years. If you haven't adopted Win7 by then we aren't waiting for you. I certainly don't want another Win XP or Win 98, where people got so used to them because nothing new came out in a long enough time that no one wanted to change once something new finally did come out. I'm perfectly fine with a 3-4 year developement cycle between OSes. And I really don't mind paying the ~$100 to move to the new OS every 3-4 years either. I put more than that into hardware in a month, I can put it into software every few years.
major problem is upgrade transition between windows, to tell u the truth the Code should be the same as Win 7 pretty much.