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For a tech community that prides itself on forward thinking and cutting edge software you guys sure sound like a bunch of stereotypical close minded conservatives.

you shall look the other side of the coin also

maybe a lot of us are " stereotypical close minded conservatives" but :

-why to buy/upgrade a OS which is better only by the name...
-even 7 is not mature completely;always updates even after service pack... etc.;won't 8 be the same shit under another name?
-only now 7 start to be adopted by majority of users (a lot still on xp&vista) so where this 8 fit in?
- better security on 8? i doubt
-more control from ms on user with 8

and i can write a lot of more reasons..... but for me the most important is that 8 is coming too soon;i doubt market will embrace it;but if will be a failure who cares ms has enough money they afford to make mistakes
 
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Face it, Windows 8 is a superior operating system. Hate it all you want but its the future.
just like ME was right? the fact is if you use a traditional computer (ie anything without a touch screen) there is very little if any reason to "upgrade".
getting it free on a new pc? most consumers wouldn't downgrade so you could be right about numbers - but since when has that been the determining factor of superiority?
 
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You think that because you are not fluent in using it. I thought the same thing about windows XP. Open your mind a little. See the big picture.
FFS, metro UI is a fucking ugly shit man, accept it.
I applaud how faster, secure, etc it is, but that god damned UI is UGLY as SHIT.
 

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FFS, metro UI is a fucking ugly shit man, accept it.
I applaud how faster, secure, etc it is, but that god damned UI is UGLY as SHIT.
That is your opinion and many others. Don't force that on everyone else that likes it. I sure like it, and welcome the change. I guess im one of the few that accept change in things. :rolleyes:
 

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just like ME was right? the fact is if you use a traditional computer (ie anything without a touch screen) there is very little if any reason to "upgrade".
getting it free on a new pc? most consumers wouldn't downgrade so you could be right about numbers - but since when has that been the determining factor of superiority?
wrong many average joe consumers requested an os downgrade frome vista to xp because Vista was a SPOS in speed and reliability dept.
 
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Thanks for the review wizz - good to see that the under-the-cover changes don't free up any more significant resources for applications running on the machine, nor does it impact gaming performance.

I will not be moving any of my machines to win8 unless they give me the option of having a small start menu instead of a start screen. I know that no-one I directly work with will be moving to windows 8 - I will be suprised if the company as a whole even gives it as an option - we can use win7/xp or osx or any one of a number of linux distros but there will be resistence to support something which makes the staff less efficient (and if the staff don't want it I doubt there will be any rush to move to support it). I'm due a new machine next year and you can be sure as hell it will come downgraded to windows 7, and if (by some miracle) not I'll downgrade it myself.

It's not about being resistant to change, it's not about being sentimental about a button - it's about efficiency. I usually have around 8 or 9 fullscreen apps open at once on my machine, split across 3 screens - I am constantly switching between them and resizing them over other windows. When I need to find a file or open a new app I press the start button> type the start of what I want and press enter. I know you can do this on win8. The difference is on win7 when I am using the start menu to search for a file/application it takes a very small section of my screen up - and it's in the bottom left, which on the majority of my applications is deadspace as I've moved the elements around so the bottom left doesn't contain anything oft used. In windows 8 I am thrown out of my desktop screen - when I am searching for files or applications I can't be looking at other applications at the same time. I can't be reading something which gives me a clue on what to search for (for example if I am looking for a javacore with a date+timestamp as the unique name element I can just read it while entering the text on the start menu in windows 7. No need for a mouse or to remember the filename plus 12 numbers. In windows 8 I need to either remember the unique key or use my mouse to highlight it to copy/paste - it requires more effort than windows 7, and that is something I can't erase through learning the new OS).

Sorry for the long explanation but I keep seeing people argue over metro saying that people complain because they are lazy/stupid/afraid of change. There is a legitimate argument that it is less efficient - and that's just the start screen. You can have a max of 2 metro apps visible at the same time on one screen - with a fixed 60/30 split as well - there goes my multitasking straight out the window (and yes I usually have more than 2 apps visible on my main screen at the same time).

It's a shame really, I like the efficiencies in file copy and WDDM that windows 8 brings, but I will not make myself less efficient for the sake of change.
 
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That is your opinion and many others. Don't force that on everyone else that likes it. I sure like it, and welcome the change. I guess im one of the few that accept change in things. :rolleyes:
I accept whatever i like :)
That uglyness i don't like so i don't accept it and i'm free to do so, i'm not forcing anybody nor anybody is a zombie or idiot to think as i do without discerning.

So, it's clear that it isn't that i not accept change, i accept changes i like.
 
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I guess im one of the few that accept change in things. :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:

It's not about being resistant to change, it's not about being sentimental about a button - it's about efficiency.

It's a shame really, I like the efficiencies in file copy and WDDM that windows 8 brings, but I will not make myself less efficient for the sake of change.
totally agreed

wrong many average joe consumers requested an os downgrade frome vista to xp because Vista was a SPOS in speed and reliability dept.
good to hear ;)
 

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wait wait .... what? you use windows? ;)
I kinda thought the same thing from something he said about steam on linux. Putting his money where his mouth is or something.

You can't really escape windows when it has an 85%+ market share. You kinda need it sometimes.
 

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nice os but i will wait for a while...
 
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No Win8 for me either. I just made a clean Win7 installation and I'm not looking... back.

Up until now the only program I stopped updating is uTorrent ( 2.2.1 ). None else. Now Win7 is being added in the shooort list.
 
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They should of just left this for phones and Called it Windows Mobile Or left option in this during setup to use Metro or Classic 7 interface and be able to switch on the fly pretty much.
 
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They should of just left this for phones and Called it Windows Mobile Or left option in this during setup to use Metro or Classic 7 interface and be able to switch on the fly pretty much.
that would be awesome. give me the few real improvements but don't make it harder for me to do my job all day? best of both worlds. this is a great idea imo. as i said, unless you use a touchscreen the new interface just makes you work harder.
 

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that would be awesome. give me the few real improvements but don't make it harder for me to do my job all day? best of both worlds. this is a great idea imo. as i said, unless you use a touchscreen the new interface just makes you work harder.
ya but people at MS are thinking about the Green n not useability/efficiency. Computers were supposed to increase overall production efficiency back in the day...
 

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If its not broken dont fix it.

After using XP since not long after first release ypassing vista totally and only upgrading to 7 on my laptop last year and desktop this year, I think i'll be giving it another decade or so till i next upgrade windows.

however i always keep up to date with the latest Linux distro's as soon as theyre available, this i have to say is the future.

Good test and review of the performance variations between 7 and 8 btw. keep up the good work.
 
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ALL of you will be on Windows 8 soon. On beta drivers and no updates it hangs easily with Windows 7. Face it, Windows 8 is a superior operating system. Hate it all you want but its the future.
Tell that to all the people still using xp lol, its superior for touchscreens.:laugh:
 

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next to 98 se. 7 is fast. xp never was
 
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What disturbs me the most is the idea of not giving the consumer options, take for example the start menu?, we spend good money to own microsoft os, i feel its wrong to assume everyone wants to switch to touchscreens with there computing habits, how hard would it have been for ms to include the option to run win 8 the same way as win 7?

Im all for "progress" but why has ms not given us the option to use it like win 7, i have absolutely no need for touchscreens, thats what is making me feel disinclined to update at this stage.

Im sure it's great though.
 

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In All honesty i think Ms should of called this Windows 7.5
 
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Interface bad, yes. To me, so was Win 7's. That's why classicshell was born! Takes 2 seconds to install, and the classic start button is back, and that lovely win 3.1 interface called metro is gone too! When you strip the crap away, it's just an updated win7 underneath. I've done testing on both my real hardware and in virtual machines, to make sure all is the same. I can't find any discernible difference between the 2 oses. Win8 doesn't seem any faster, and doesn't seem to add much more of anything else. Except maybe ReFS. Which only comes with the server version, although you can hack it into pro and ent very easily. And ReFS is slower than NTSF, and lacks many features, and you can't use it on a boot volume. Hmmm. Well I skipped Vista completely because it sucked, and think I'll skip win8 because most of it's hype seems to be the metro ui, and nothing else!
 
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Looks like crap, wouldn't be able to afford it if it didn't look like crap, currently offers no benefit over Windows 7 for my needs. No Win8 for me, they'll come out with Windows 9 before most people see a need to move from Win7.
 
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Software Windows 10 64 Bit
Interface bad, yes. To me, so was Win 7's. That's why classicshell was born! Takes 2 seconds to install, and the classic start button is back, and that lovely win 3.1 interface called metro is gone too! When you strip the crap away, it's just an updated win7 underneath. I've done testing on both my real hardware and in virtual machines, to make sure all is the same. I can't find any discernible difference between the 2 oses. Win8 doesn't seem any faster, and doesn't seem to add much more of anything else. Except maybe ReFS. Which only comes with the server version, although you can hack it into pro and ent very easily. And ReFS is slower than NTSF, and lacks many features, and you can't use it on a boot volume. Hmmm. Well I skipped Vista completely because it sucked, and think I'll skip win8 because most of it's hype seems to be the metro ui, and nothing else!
I would like to see a certain man of mail respond to this...