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Other than update bundling. Takes quite awhile to get a new SP1 disc up to date these days.
WSUS Offline updater, check it out. It rolls up all the updates for you into a folder, you drop that folder on a USB stick, plug the USB stick into the fresh computer and run the installer and walk away, it installs all the updates for you. You only have to download the updates once and the fresh computer doesn't need to be connected to the internet. And it installs all the updates in roughly the same amount of time it would take to install a service pack.

yeah you might think that way. look at win xp, they have until SP3. win 7 SP1 and just continous update? i would want SP2 for a small space for reprogramming / reformatting my PC instead of having enourmous update after SP1 installed
XP needed so many service packs because XP was lacking pretty major features that needed to either be added to the OS or the OS would have died a lot sooner. Windows 7 doesn't need major features added to it, so it doesn't need another service pack.
 
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If they really want to keep Windows market share, they need to release a dozen or more custom versions; Business, Gamer, Pro, Ultimate, Lite, Super Lite, HTPC, Miner, Server, Tablet, Phone, Classroom, etc., all priced according to functionality, so Gamers who never use office apps and whatnot don't have to pay for them, and Super Lite users can just use the core OS and add 3rd party apps as needed - no bloated, memory hogging versions unless that's what you want and choose Ultimate or Pro. If M$ would quit shoving unnecessary crap down our throats, they'd be heroes instead of the inside joke they have always been. They need to make Windows more modular so that unwanted features can easily be deleted and we can stop running 150 services and 2 Gb of memory even when doing nothing. Like Linux but more user-friendly and universal. But why dream? - they'll never do it, it will just keep getting more bloated and integrated with fucking Bing and Store and all their other money-grabbing schemes. I can't imagine a worse CEO than Steve Ballmer, but they'll find one somewhere, who will take us all into the "cloud" to our ever-lasting bliss.
 
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There a plenty of options for getting back the Start menu - Start8, Classic Shell, etc etc...

But yeah - for touch things Metro is allright, but keep it away from Desktop users.
Give us the Core installation - like the Windows Server 2012.....
 

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If they really want to keep Windows market share, they need to release a dozen or more custom versions; Business, Gamer, Pro, Ultimate, Lite, Super Lite, HTPC, Miner, Server, Tablet, Phone, Classroom, etc., all priced according to functionality, so Gamers who never use office apps and whatnot don't have to pay for them, and Super Lite users can just use the core OS and add 3rd party apps as needed - no bloated, memory hogging versions unless that's what you want and choose Ultimate or Pro. If M$ would quit shoving unnecessary crap down our throats, they'd be heroes instead of the inside joke they have always been. They need to make Windows more modular so that unwanted features can easily be deleted and we can stop running 150 services and 2 Gb of memory even when doing nothing. Like Linux but more user-friendly and universal. But why dream? - they'll never do it, it will just keep getting more bloated and integrated with fucking Bing and Store and all their other money-grabbing schemes. I can't imagine a worse CEO than Steve Ballmer, but they'll find one somewhere, who will take us all into the "cloud" to our ever-lasting bliss.
Ironically, most people bitched them up a storm about having too many different editions with Vista and 7, which is why they went with the simpler 2 version approach with 8.

And it works. People don't want to have to compare a bunch of different versions, most consumers don't care, they want a simple choice. Home users take choice A and Office users take choice B.

Having a bunch of niche versions that might appeal to 1% of the market, and those people are buying your products anyway, isn't worth the development time.
 
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I actually had windows 8.1 installed the other day and i went back to 7 because i hated it so much.
 
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people dont want change.... i myself dont want to. but somehow there is inside of me being so curious about win 8. i actually get used after a week of usage. i do use metro apps as well. i found out it performs better than win 7 in some cases..... but that is just my personal opinion. look at some other people.... i know a guy who like so much xp.... he dislikes win 7 and win 8..... right now he is actually using 8.1. i was so surprised. amd when i ask why... he said its not really bad....
i myself use start menu alot of times. im a kinda of guy like a clean desktop. i dont have any icons and so on into my desktop.
 
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well if they release it the 1st april ... then it would not be a fiasco ...

nevermind
people dont want change.... i myself dont want to. but somehow there is inside of me being so curious about win 8. i actually get used after a week of usage. i do use metro apps as well. i found out it performs better than win 7 in some cases..... but that is just my personal opinion. look at some other people.... i know a guy who like so much xp.... he dislikes win 7 and win 8..... right now he is actually using 8.1. i was so surprised. amd when i ask why... he said its not really bad....
i myself use start menu alot of times. im a kinda of guy like a clean desktop. i dont have any icons and so on into my desktop.
mostly true
 
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Ironically, most people bitched them up a storm about having too many different editions with Vista and 7, which is why they went with the simpler 2 version approach with 8.

And it works. People don't want to have to compare a bunch of different versions, most consumers don't care, they want a simple choice. Home users take choice A and Office users take choice B.

Having a bunch of niche versions that might appeal to 1% of the market, and those people are buying your products anyway, isn't worth the development time.
So sorry, but I have to disagree. The problem with those versions is that they were too much the same, and all bloated with unwanted junk. I think M$ is more driven by greed and laziness. People want choices, they're tired of having to settle for crap, and I think anyone who's smart enough to really use their PC can certainly decide between a dozen versions, and the computer-illiterate masses can just use the standard Home version like they've been doing. You don't give people enough credit. More people are building custom rigs and shunning the crappy OEM beige boxes, and they're not afraid to spend time setting their systems up to their liking. The 'computer geek' is now looked up to instead of ridiculed, and being inept at using your PC or tablet or smart phone is socially unacceptable. This is 2014, and the landscape is different than the scenario you describe in 2006 and 2009. PCs have only been around for 30 years, and the base of savvy users continues to grow, (along with the number of newbies who don't know know much). But the spread of PC knowledge is exponential as the market matures and society becomes saturated with technology. This is all just my opinion, I could be wrong...
 
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Well if Win9 doesn't have a start menu I think my next OS (after my current Win7) will be Ubuntu.

Some people here claim forced changes is the way to go. Join Apple then, that's why the exist, to tell their customers what is good and bad.
 

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So sorry, but I have to disagree. The problem with those versions is that they were too much the same, and all bloated with unwanted junk. I think M$ is more driven by greed and laziness. People want choices, they're tired of having to settle for crap, and I think anyone who's smart enough to really use their PC can certainly decide between a dozen versions, and the computer-illiterate masses can just use the standard Home version like they've been doing. You don't give people enough credit. More people are building custom rigs and shunning the crappy OEM beige boxes, and they're not afraid to spend time setting their systems up to their liking. The 'computer geek' is now looked up to instead of ridiculed, and being inept at using your PC or tablet or smart phone is socially unacceptable. This is 2014, and the landscape is different than the scenario you describe in 2006 and 2009. PCs have only been around for 30 years, and the base of savvy users continues to grow, (along with the number of newbies who don't know know much). But the spread of PC knowledge is exponential as the market matures and society becomes saturated with technology. This is all just my opinion, I could be wrong...
You can disagree all you want, but the fact is the market doesn't want a bunch of niche versions. If you want to keep disagreeing just go back and find the threads on the announcement of the versions for Vista and Windows 7.

And with as powerful as even the most basic computers are, the marginal extra bloat doesn't make a difference. Who cares if Win8.1 idles using 2GB of RAM with even basic laptops come with 4GB and 8GB is the stanadard?(but to be fair it only uses about 0.9GB of RAM)

Heck, I haven't even bothered going through and disabling the extra services that I don't use in probably 4 years, the last time I did it was with Vista.

But again, you are talking about making so many extra versions for a small niche of people that are already buying their products anyway. There is no point in that, and there is no point in adding that confusion to the market. Especially when those versions add basically nothing to the user expereience at this point. Windows 8.1 is far from bloated, it doesn't need a lite version, that wouldn't really make any noticeable benefit.

I'm not saying people can't figure out the difference between all the different versions, I'm saying they don't want to. They want simple. They basically want the choice to be made for them, they don't want to do any research either.
 
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I hope there will be again an upgrade from 8.1 or 8.2 whatever, for low cost.

I am using win 8.1 at home, and at work (we do have a couple of computer with it), it runs soo smooth.

Personally, I will never go back to Windows 7. Modern UI is way better than the start menu. 1 click or press windows menu, I see all my pinned apps, faster than going to start, all programs or to pinned just a couple. now it can be sort like I want: Audio/video, games, Office, utilities, benchmark, etc. Plus, I like the live tile.

The only bad thing, is that win 8.1 cannot be downloaded other way that from the Store. Bad for business with WSUS installed
 
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Who cares if Win8.1 idles using 2GB of RAM
Me (and many others). This is a total waste of RAM.

And it's not my opinion, it is a fact.
 
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Me (and many others). This is a total waste of RAM.

And it's not my opinion, it is a fact.
the more you gives to the OS, the more it will take... It is not a waste of ram, it is caching it. You see, on my Asus T100, I have 2gb of ram, idle, I have less than 50% of ram used.. On Windows 7, on 4gb of ram, Windows is taking like 35 to 40% on my sisters'computer. Nothing running. it is not better.. xD

Sorry but alot of people complain about nothing. They just tryto get reason to not like any new things cause they don't want to buy it. They can keep Windows 7 for a long time if they want... But in fact, Windows 8 is a good OS..
 
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What 7 was to Vista, 9 will be to 8.

All the little bugs and negativity etc etc will be ironed out.

I hope.
 

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What 7 was to Vista, 9 will be to 8.

All the little bugs and negativity etc etc will be ironed out.

I hope.
That is what I hope for as well.
 
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As if people don't have 4GB as standard these days anyway...
I do not.

And that's a not intelligent way of thinking. If you have 1TB of memory and the OS alone takes 900GB just keep it idle, then what's the point of having so much memory.

Nothing against it, but if you support and use this you are stupid just like them are. No decent OS need so much, that's a waste of memory.
 
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Nope its an efficient OS. Why have RAM if you're not going to use it?
 

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No, I did not.

It is a waste of memory.
I do not.

And that's a not intelligent way of thinking. If you have 1TB of memory and the OS alone takes 900GB just keep it idle, then what's the point of having so much memory.

Nothing against it, but if you support and use this you are stupid just like them are. No decent OS need so much, that's a waste of memory.
So it's better to have the memory totally unused, as opposed to make use of the caching and prediction functions and store things in memory so that said things can be brought up quicker than if they were on the HDD?
 
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So it's better to have the memory totally unused, as opposed to make use of the caching and prediction functions
I'm not talking about caching... I'm talking memory hungry OSes that eats hundreds of megabytes just "keep it alive" and leave that amount impossible to use.

Why have RAM if you're not going to use it?
RAM should be used wisely. If you use it wisely, you won't need that much.

And if you need that much, you will be able to use more in real world applications instead of losing them to OS. This is making your money spent on RAM worth every cent!

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Not to mention those big OSes that eat precious GB of your hard disk just for nothing useful. But this is not being debated here...
 

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I'm not talking about caching... I'm talking memory hungry OSes that eats hundreds of megabytes just "keep it alive" and leave that amount impossible to use.

RAM should be used wisely. If you use it wisely, you won't need that much.

And if you need that much, you will be able to use more in real world applications instead of losing them to OS. This is making your money spent on RAM worth every cent!
... I'm pretty sure it's dynamic (it is dynamic). From what I've seen it's no different from Windows 7. If you don't have 2GB memory, it will not use 2GB. When you launch your real world applications, they will use the memory they need. But you know this. Less than 2GB will get annoying (for me anyway), but such is the case with Windows 7, and every fancier Linux distro, as well.

EDIT: Actually, less than 4GB is out of the question for me for "proper" work. slitaz to the rescue.

EDIT again: Are you talking Windows 8 here, or just Windows in general? I'm thinking it's about Windows Anything, and then you are right in that it needs more than your xubuntu. But so does Ubuntu. It's how it works.
 

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It looks like you all may just need to agree to disagree and let it go:)