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Windows 9 release in April 2015

Discussion in 'General Software' started by DRDNA, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. Blue-Knight

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    Maybe on Windows. I use Xubuntu and it lets me with a little more than 1700MB for me to use with I want.

    And that's if I let the window manager running. If I disable it, I will have 1800MB out of 2000MB to spend with real applications and productivity!

    And that's because if I have 1900MB available out of 2000MB the kernel seems to allow only "free memory -100MB"(approximately) to be used by programs.

    Not sure.
     
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    But that would require common sense from MS, and i don't know about that.

    For ever changing moving removing shit that don't need to be moved rarely helps user performance. Like how many more times they going change the control panel OMG stop already..
     
  3. erixx

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    nothing against anyone in particular, but this thread needs to be closed because it is just stupid: i like it, I do not, I like it, i do not.

    please, consider that opinions are like assholes, every animal in this zoo has one.
     
  4. Blue-Knight

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    Just like the one you've just posted.
     
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    hey hey stop it! Nothing compares to my post(s)!! :peace:
     
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    Alright folks. Cool it.
     
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    You should really look into how Windows manages memory more. Notice I said on my machine(a laptop) it only uses 0.9GB. Windows targets RAM usage at about 25% of the total memory installed in the compute, of course it can only go so far. It is extremely efficient with managing memory. If you have 4GB of RAM, like my laptop, it will use about 1GB when idle. If you have 8GB it will use about 2GB. It doesn't really go above 2GB though, so adding 16GB of RAM will still result in about 2GB of RAM used idle.

    It manages to do this by paging the less important processes related to the less important services. These are the services that some people spend hours going through and disabling to save memory. But it isn't really necessary, because Microsoft has already optimized this and will page these services if it needs to.

    However, like I said there is a limit. If you have 2GB of memory it will use about 0.75GB.

    But in the end, it doesn't matter how much memory it is using, what matters if the machine runs smoothly. And even with 2GB of RAM, Win8.1 runs extremely smoothly and works perfectly for everything but playing games. My HTPC has 2GB of RAM, and works perfectly for watching movies, browsing the web, Office apps, I even run Photoshop on it.

    It isn't wasting RAM, it is using it efficiently and adapting to the situation it is in. An OS sitting there using very little RAM doesn't mean it is not wasting RAM, and an OS using the RAM it has available is not an OS that is wasting RAM. The RAM is there to be used, and Win8.1 knows that.

    So I'll rephase my statement slightly to clearify. Who cares Win8.1 idles using 2GB of memory when you've got 8GB?

    Edit: I'm not trying to keep the argument going, I just trying to get the information on how Windows manages memory out there, because there are a lot of people that don't know.
     
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  8. Blue-Knight

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    I'm not even going to reply or read your entire post because I do not want to be banned in one more forum.

    I'm leaving this topic. Happy New Year and sorry anything!
     
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    I also have foregone W8 for those reasons, as well as the accursed Windows Store.
     
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    That depends on how successful the cranial-rectal extraction is on the Windows development team...
     
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    Arctucas - please don't double post.
     
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    i consider moving to win 9
    i guess m$ will release something better than 8. yeah i dont like metro, i prefer something simple like xp with 7 looks and new architekture
    and usually windows is up and down, so 7 is up, 8 is down and (i hope) 9 will up too.
    and i just hope m$ wont push its costumer to eat what they offer, remember when m$ released win 8 and push the market to accept it coz bla.. bla.. bla.. and it aint work, so i hope m$ wont do that again
     
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    Windows? Blah! I've noticed there has been a nice push lately (steam, software/gaming developers) to get stuff out on Linux. While I can't stand using Linux, I'm hoping in a few more years there will be a very (stupid) user friendly version. Windows needs competition.
     
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    linux fight windows, yeah everybody knows that, i mean when windows tries to make everything easy as possible, linux is kinda harder to do more if you dont get its command line
    and its driver, i wonder why they dont make like any emulator at driver level so its its easier for anyone
    but return to windows, personally i like simple system with straight forward and reliable features, just wait and see how abou new windows
     
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    Handout a copy of Start8 with every copy of W8 so everyone is happy
     
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    I use custom discs with bundled updates. The OS is pretty much ready to go after installation. I was speaking generally it's an inconvenience for people because most casual builders won't use any of those shortcuts and would benefit from an official update bundling despite other options existing. Though it occurs to me maybe MS updates their SP1 discs silently every time they burn a new batch. I haven't used the stock discs for awhile so idk.
     
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    "run the installer....." What installer?
     
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    MS writes the OS for the average joe- computer illiterate people-dont know shi+ not the power user- black viper is the one who spent the time to go through all of their processes and figure out their functions.
     
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    It creates a folder, in that folder is a file called "updateinstaller.exe", you run that on a fresh machine and it installs all the updates for you.
     
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    Hopefully there are some big improvements over Win7, which is still a pretty badass OS.
     
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    Hmm, I guess I need to look closer LOL. loaded up an XP on a vm and installed WSUS but didn't see that file. Will look again; thanks Tekie!!!
     
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    Might aswell start being a tester of ReactOS.
     
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    WSUS and WSUS Offline Updater are different things. WSUS is a Microsoft tool, WSUS Offline Updater is a 3rd party tool that downloads all the updates and creates an installer for you that you can put on any machine. It basically makes a service pack for you that you can use on any machine without an internet connection.
     
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    Right, that is what I got was WSUS Offline.
     
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    Here's what Peter Bright of Arstechnica says:

    Which I think would be excellent.
     
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