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On the topic of the link you posted, I think it's great that Valve is pushing Steam ahead in the Linux world, and I hope between their support and at some point Vulkan gaining more traction, we'll see more and more and more that is multiplaftorm including Linux distros without as much effort from devs. I may have to fire up Ubuntu on my gaming laptop and give this new Steam beta a run and see how it fares at some point in the next few months. I'm sure there's plenty of folks that'll dive in now though. It'll be interesting to see how the list they have grows and how the relationship between Steam and Proton develops from here.

One part I found interesting before the Q&A section I've quoted below for folks to read:

As a result of this work, today we are releasing the Beta of a new and improved version of Steam Play to all Linux users! It includes a modified distribution of Wine, called Proton, to provide compatibility with Windows game titles. Here are some of the improvements it brings to the table:
  • Windows games with no Linux version currently available can now be installed and run directly from the Linux Steam client, complete with native Steamworks and OpenVR support.
  • DirectX 11 and 12 implementations are now based on Vulkan, resulting in improved game compatibility and reduced performance impact.
  • Fullscreen support has been improved: fullscreen games will be seamlessly stretched to the desired display without interfering with the native monitor resolution or requiring the use of a virtual desktop.
  • Improved game controller support: games will automatically recognize all controllers supported by Steam. Expect more out-of-the-box controller compatibility than even the original version of the game.
  • Performance for multi-threaded games has been greatly improved compared to vanilla Wine.
 
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It's a nice start, but I've got way more games than that list they showed. It doesn't even scratch the surface.
 
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You can install any game, only the whitelisted games have been tested by valve. There is an option in the steam play settings to enable for all games. DX10 games my still not be ready at this point. I am currently downloading Skyrim Special Edition.

Also of note, the games I have tried have worked out of the box with my PS4 controller.
 
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It's a nice start, but I've got way more games than that list they showed. It doesn't even scratch the surface.
Ditto I have over 80% of that list in my library, and mostly because those aren't google vr, maps, literature club aren't games
 
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Ditto I have over 80% of that list in my library, and mostly because those aren't google vr, maps, literature club aren't games
Did you read the part where you can enable it to install anygame in your library? compatibility just is not tested by valve. There will be games that do not work or have small issues.
 
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I have a strong feeling gpu-compute shaders will still be buggy, hence not exactly going to run out to install this (I play a lot of Elite Dangerous which relies on them).
 
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Did you read the part where you can enable it to install anygame in your library? compatibility just is not tested by valve. There will be games that do not work or have small issues.
I assumed that much when I read that it is just their implementation of wine with vulkan support.
 
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I broke down... trying it now with my extensive steam library and gentoo rig. Will report back.
 
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It's a nice start, but I've got way more games than that list they showed. It doesn't even scratch the surface.
Not to mention the mods probably don't work on any of those games, and you also can't overclock your graphics card as easily on Linux either, not that that is a big deal or anything, also GSYNC and freesync owners still don't get that full benefit on linux yet. so eh. im rocking win 8.1 100hz 100 fps gsync on all my laptop games with a gtx 1070 and i have a blast every time, i couldnt live without gsync or freesync. but more power to linux users i guess, we need to keep some hope alive as Windows 10 is a terrible mess of telemetry
 
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Meh, I know how to OC Pascal under linux just fine. Don't care about gsync/freesync so we shall see... I imagine if the games work, mods should too.
 
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Took just a few hours:) , I'm tempted.
I broke down... trying it now with my extensive steam library and gentoo rig. Will report back.
 
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Took just a few hours:) , I'm tempted.
It'll take more than a few hours to do a proper test, expect me to vanish briefly.

Unless of course you meant I broke down fast... yeah, I kinda do that.
 
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I am genuinely excited Linux is getting dedicated gaming support...however (an objective argument I will try to keep short) steam is attempting to monopolise the linux gaming space through its client.

reading through the announcement it is clear that steam compatible only (devices, games and software) is the narrative being pushed towards gamers and developers. that in of itself is not an issue however open source tools and in some instances the devs who support them have been enveloped into proton . but proton is also open sourced...yes but the crux of the matter is support (like all things in open source) , how much traction development and popularity wise will other proton versions gain considering the steam trademark image? also other complex drm solutions may or will be non functional seems a pre statement to steam client lock-in .in effect leveraging the "if it's not on steam..."philosophical statement.
 
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Not to mention the mods probably don't work on any of those games, and you also can't overclock your graphics card as easily on Linux either, not that that is a big deal or anything, also GSYNC and freesync owners still don't get that full benefit on linux yet. so eh. im rocking win 8.1 100hz 100 fps gsync on all my laptop games with a gtx 1070 and i have a blast every time, i couldnt live without gsync or freesync. but more power to linux users i guess, we need to keep some hope alive as Windows 10 is a terrible mess of telemetry
Definitely.. gsync/freesync is great for cards in our range. Although just bear with Win 10. I still like it's interface more than 8.1, but I know it has issues.
 
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Its to bad this could have an negative influence on native made Linux games irregardless of Valve's self interest.
 
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I am genuinely excited Linux is getting dedicated gaming support...however (an objective argument I will try to keep short) steam is attempting to monopolise the linux gaming space through its client.
The project is in GitHub, that means you can use it on your own games outside of stream, and all individual projects are open, there is no black box Valve can capitalize on, they are not Microsoft.
Man, I LOVE this.
 
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Here is a Google doc(Steam Play Compatibility Report) of games that are being tested by various users...quite extensive for the short amount of time since Valve's announcement.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQ3_odz8JzEVK80vkku-b6FsICWb45xGf4VYnzYz5cNSMVQ-5BA2WoHBGAScw96MgLj1ONA7Cx0tyGa/pubhtml#

I'd expect the "Whitelist" to grow at an exponential rate over the next few months. I'm personally having success with most of the Windows only titles I would normally be attempting to play with adamhm's wine wrappers(from GOG), or just not playing at all since I refuse to dual boot. The list I've tested for myself includes...Witcher III, Fallout 3, Fallout:NV, Skyrim(non SE), Oblivion, Morrowind, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series, Wolfenstein(all titles), Dishonored etc. All play just fine.

I've mentioned Liam Dawe's site before, but it probably should be repeated. If you're looking to keep up with gaming news in the world of Linux. Gaming on Linux is a one-stop shop and constantly updated. Not much else out there that even comes close...highly recommended.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/

Man, I LOVE this.
You and me both....:).

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Crap, it only works with only your library for now (so no arrrr for now).
Tried it with something free like doki doki literature club, works flawlessly.
 
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Its to bad this could have an negative influence on native made Linux games irregardless of Valve's self interest.
I didn't think about that, but you're right.

That said, I've always thought it didn't have much chance anyhow. A solid game platform is not all that conducive to the open source model. It needs stability and predictability.. and a lot of singular minded vision and management coming from the top. All anathema to Linux. There are a lot of great foundations and tools for Linux, but no vision.. and everyone keeps sort of reinventing the wheel there. It's a blessing and a curse.

And even when Open Source does offer games, it absolutely follows that model (PS4 runs a version of BSD, for example.. but this all Sony directing things from the top.. and they were also smart enough to stay away from GNU. Same goes for Apple).
 
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I mean, proton is open source. Someone could make a package just like wine and use it for non-steam games. I'm doing that right now for my gentoo install.
 
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https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues

I've been monitoring the "whitelist" requests(and install issues) on Valve's github page. Thought I'd post it if others we're interested in a look-see.

:),

Liquid Cool

EDIT: I'm also going to add a link here to adamhm's(from GOG) wine wrappers that I mentioned earlier in the thread. They work really well. The list is full of older titles, but it also has a ton of games that I play regularly. The install is VERY easy...and for me...has worked about everytime(had a few problems using Intel HD graphics). Anyone that knows me can look at that list and know I was ecstatic when I found them. I never thought that my first play through of Oblivion would be on linux! It's now...well...probably my favorite game of all time and yes, I did shed a tear when Martin...well, you know. Currently taking a stab at Morrowind!

https://www.gog.com/mix/adamhms_linux_wine_wrappers
 
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I've been trying to get Elite: Dangerous to run. Ironically, the game appears to run fine when directly launched with the latest git code (Compute Shaders even appear to compile!)... but you can only play for a few seconds (and only in a tutorial) without the .net based launcher.

I know ford loves .net, but it's times like this it's a pain in everyones side. Mono does not seem to work here.
 
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dotnet now has an official Linux compiler, problem is old code like that one.
 
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dotnet now has an official Linux compiler, problem is old code like that one.
I know... it's called mono and I said it does not work here. :p

The problem isn't the codes age (It's .net 3.0 base), the problem is it's a mixed .net / not-.net library which makes running it using mono impossible.
 
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