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So that fix I posted only worked for so long. I am back to those shenanigans.

My upgrade is coming up soon. I am looking around and windows options don't look great. I could upgrade to a lumia 735. It has a better cpu, but a worse camera. Seems like a sidegrade. But maybe the headphone problem is resolved. The HTC one m8 has a much faster cpu, but a much worse camera. This has me looking at android phones, and I still am not finding what I want.

Has anyone else from the club upgraded recently? If not, what would you upgrade too.
Wait for Windows Phone 10 devices.
 
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Two Lumia 950 variants are supposed to be announced in October, but availability might not be until November/December. http://www.windowscentral.com/alleged-lumia-950-and-lumia-950-xl-continuum-dock-smile-camera

If you can't wait that long there's unfortunately not a lot of options. The Lumia 830 is still being sold I think, and is a solid phone. Otherwise maybe pick up a Lumia 640/640XL (if you can find a good deal) to tide you over until something is announced.

I actually ended up upgrading my daily driver away from Windows Phone (got an iPhone 6 Plus) but I still have my 920 and 1020 for playing with the Windows 10 Mobile builds. There hasn't been a whole lot of new or interesting hardware lately in the Windows Phone space.
 
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Wait for Windows Phone 10 devices.
My phone is defective as is. I can't make phone calls easily. The battery dies in 3 hours. I am going to upgrade when I am eligible.

My upgrade is not until October, so maybe I will have some windows 10 options available. Maybe not.

Two Lumia 950 variants are supposed to be announced in October, but availability might not be until November/December. http://www.windowscentral.com/alleged-lumia-950-and-lumia-950-xl-continuum-dock-smile-camera

If you can't wait that long there's unfortunately not a lot of options. The Lumia 830 is still being sold I think, and is a solid phone. Otherwise maybe pick up a Lumia 640/640XL (if you can find a good deal) to tide you over until something is announced.

I actually ended up upgrading my daily driver away from Windows Phone (got an iPhone 6 Plus) but I still have my 920 and 1020 for playing with the Windows 10 Mobile builds. There hasn't been a whole lot of new or interesting hardware lately in the Windows Phone space.
The Nokia 735 would be available free from Verizon. Verizon limits me on how many windows phones I can look at. The iphone 5s would be perfect, but I just refuse to use apple. So I am looking at android, but even then the 735 seems like a my best option with the minimal choices.
 
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My phone is defective as is. I can't make phone calls easily. The battery dies in 3 hours. I am going to upgrade when I am eligible.

My upgrade is not until October, so maybe I will have some windows 10 options available. Maybe not.


The Nokia 735 would be available free from Verizon. Verizon limits me on how many windows phones I can look at. The iphone 5s would be perfect, but I just refuse to use apple. So I am looking at android, but even then the 735 seems like a my best option with the minimal choices.
Well I have some worse news for you then. During the last Windows Weekly episode they mentioned that Microsoft is only working with carriers that are willing to work with them. Verizon is not one of those carriers, so chances of many or any Windows 10 phones coming to Verizon are slim. I went with the iPhone as I use mostly Microsoft services, and they seem to have built the best experience for them in iOS, sad as that is.
 

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Well I have some worse news for you then. During the last Windows Weekly episode they mentioned that Microsoft is only working with carriers that are willing to work with them. Verizon is not one of those carriers, so chances of many or any Windows 10 phones coming to Verizon are slim. I went with the iPhone as I use mostly Microsoft services, and they seem to have built the best experience for them in iOS, sad as that is.
That is nothing new. Verizon has never carried much of windows phones.

I even think I found my ideal android phone. A sony xperia z1 compact. It hits every mark, except that it does not have Windows. I could complain it was still bigger than I wanted, but I would be happy enough. Guess what, Verizon does not carry sony phones. They are supposedly releasing a sony z4v this month, but Verizon has postponed it a year already. I don't mind older hardware, but verizon seemingly has purposely postponed so Sony puts out a year old product.

I held on to my Palm Pre 2 for a long time. I really enjoyed that phone. I miss it even. I guess what I want from a phone is really far away from the mainstream.

If I were to be honest with myself, the iphone 5s is the perfect phone. It has a good camera and is very small. It is even the smallest modern phone you can buy. I just give it two metaphorical marks down for being an apple product. As I look at phones, the more I realize that I really should consider the iphone 5s. @Dos101 When you say " they seem to have built the best experience for them in iOS", what do you mean? What services do you use?

Also, @Dos101, one of my favorite things about windows phones is the navigation app. It is much better than the android navigation app. How does the apple navigation app compare? EDIT: My phone has HERE Drive+ installed by default, which is a great navigation app. It appears it is available on ios and android.

How is that working for you? On paper they have great performance. They phone looks good in my opinion. The only thing that turns me off is the camera. Every review I have read puts it as pretty mediocre.


As of right now I am debating between the Microsoft lumia 735 or the iphone 5s. I will highly consider any windows 10 devices Verizon might gain in the next month. I am also watching for the Sony Z4v to arrive, which I would also highly consider.

Lumia 735 has better battery life, a removable battery, expandable storage, windows phone, better nav app, user face I am used to, and I simply like nokia/microsoft phones.
Iphone has better camera, is smaller, and better performance, and I would rather not own an apple product.

Or, I could just buy a used Nokia 928 for about $100. It is a phone I would be happy with. I am happy with the size, the performance, and the camera.
 
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@james888: Do it! I have a 920, and I abso-frickin-lutely love it!!
 
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@james888: Do it! I have a 920, and I abso-frickin-lutely love it!!
I could also have a free iphone 5s or free lumina 735. 735 is an upgrade in everything but the camera.
 
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When you say " they seem to have built the best experience for them in iOS", what do you mean? What services do you use?

Also, @Dos101, one of my favorite things about windows phones is the navigation app. It is much better than the android navigation app. How does the apple navigation app compare? EDIT: My phone has HERE Drive+ installed by default, which is a great navigation app. It appears it is available on ios and android.
I use Outlook (I have an outlook.com email address), Onedrive, Smartglass for my Xbox One, and Office. Every one of those apps has feature parity with their Windows Phone counterparts, and then some. The apps themselves feel more polished and fluid, and the animations are pretty slick. The Outlook app in particular is great! And while this may change with Windows 10 mobile, the Office apps are hands down better looking and have more thought put into the UI design. The only thing I miss from Windows Phone is tiles. I still think the tile interface is the best mobile interface out there.

I haven't used the built in navigation too much on my iPhone, but it seems to work pretty much the same as Here Drive did on my Windows Phones. The only notable difference I can think of is using navigation didn't kill the battery on my iPhone as much as Here Drive did on my Lumia 1520.

@james888: Do it! I have a 920, and I abso-frickin-lutely love it!!
The 920 is a solid option. I still have mine because it's such a great phone.

I could also have a free iphone 5s or free lumina 735. 735 is an upgrade in everything but the camera.
If you want to stay in the Windows Phone ecosystem then I think the 735 is your only option, unless you opt for paying for the 920. As much as I hated having leaving Windows Phone, I've been more than happy with an iPhone. It's staggering actually how much you miss having certain apps that will probably never see the light of day on Windows Phone.
 

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I could also have a free iphone 5s or free lumina 735. 735 is an upgrade in everything but the camera.
Really can't argue with a free phone, and the 735 isn't a bad option at all. I would just prefer a 920 myself, even refurbed. :D
 
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Another issue with my phone popped up yesterday. My home and search button stopped working. I luckily still have use of the back button.

Decided to try the developer preview of windows 10. It looks really great. The new features are very nice. Oddly enough, my sound problem have been gone since I updated. I doubt that will last long.
 
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We have 2 830's and the camera is mindblowing and the screen also. And its bigger but lighter than the 920 Abrams tank which I keep as a treasure. :)
Anyway both models are "final ultimate phones" I can't think about anything I miss with them.
 

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We have 2 830's and the camera is mindblowing and the screen also. And its bigger but lighter than the 920 Abrams tank which I keep as a treasure. :)
Anyway both models are "final ultimate phones" I can't think about anything I miss with them.
"Tank" is right. My 920 is one of the most durable and damage-resistant phones I have ever owned.
 
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I'm in even though I only have a lowly 635
 

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How is that working for you? On paper they have great performance. They phone looks good in my opinion. The only thing that turns me off is the camera. Every review I have read puts it as pretty mediocre.
Great to be honest. Win 10 preview works well a little odd once in a great while, windows 8.1 works flawless though. Phone is very fast. The camera is great imo. way better than the S3 that replaced it but I dont take selfies or think my phone is a camera so I might be the wrong person to ask. It takes photos of small revision numbers on motherboards and high res shots of license keys when im formatting so it works for me.

If I want to take a picture of some Alaskan wilderness to keep in a photo album forever id grab a nikon.


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If I want to take a picture of some Alaskan wilderness to keep in a photo album forever id grab a nikon.
That just about describes my interest in photography and why I want a nice phone camera. I enjoy landscape photography. I hike for fun and for work. I end up in some really pretty spots sometimes. I have a nice lightweight mirrorless camera but I never want to take it with me. It is too bulky and a pain to hike with.
I want a nice camera so that the camera I always have with me has the best pictures possible.

We have 2 830's and the camera is mindblowing and the screen also. And its bigger but lighter than the 920 Abrams tank which I keep as a treasure. :)
Anyway both models are "final ultimate phones" I can't think about anything I miss with them.
"Tank" is right. My 920 is one of the most durable and damage-resistant phones I have ever owned.
If it was not for the fact that I have had two 928's and both have had the same exact hardware issue, I would totally agree. My 928 is pretty much my ideal phone, but in my experience has never been a tank.
 
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Is anyone else playing with windows 10 mobile. It is really great. I dislike the new calendar app but that is all.
 

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Is anyone else playing with windows 10 mobile. It is really great. I dislike the new calendar app but that is all.
I really like the recent build, not sure how long you've been running it but I was experiencing an issue with the sensitivity of the bottom of the screen that didnt allow me to move my menu back up after I dragged it down. They fixed it though.
 
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I really like the recent build, not sure how long you've been running it but I was experiencing an issue with the sensitivity of the bottom of the screen that didnt allow me to move my menu back up after I dragged it down. They fixed it though.
I have been using it just a few days. It is really slow and laggy unless I have battery saver on. It is a technical build so I expect some issues and the slowness seems pretty common. With battery saver on, it is quick and an even better OS than windows phone 8.1.
 
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Announcing Windows 10 Mobile Insiders Preview Build10536
Hi everyone,

We’re rolling out Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Build 10536 right now to Windows Insiders on the Fast ring. You may have noticed it’s taken us a little longer than we would have liked to get a new build out to you – please read my post from earlier this week on the delay. I am happy to say this build has progressed through all our internal rings and now is ready for Windows Insiders.

Insiders updating from Build 10512 will need to update their devices twice. You will see Build 10514 and Build 10536.1000. Run these updates. After these updates are installed, you’ll receive another update which will be Build 10536.1004. This process will take a bit more time than usual but this update has all the important fixes for Build 10536 so you will want to make sure you take BOTH updates. If you don’t have a problem going back to Windows Phone 8.1, you can update directly to this build (10536.1004).

Here are some of the improvements we’ve made since the last build:

  • Insider Hub is now included again!
  • Mobile hotspot functionality has been fixed.
  • Voice input has been updated to add support for Japanese and English (India) speech recognition.
  • Single hop updates are again available from Windows Phone 8.1 to Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview for all devices.
  • Two-factor authentication is fixed when setting up a device for both text and phone authentication.
  • Start screen will successfully load instead of failing with “Loading …” displayed in a loop until device was rebooted. (We are still tracking down an issue were it may show “Loading …” for a few seconds.)
  • Quite Hours\Do Not Disturb has been fixed.
  • Delay in showing date and time on Lock screen has been improved.
  • Pinch and zoom in Maps now works as expected.
Updated Photos app: The Photos app has been updated to include features you have been asking for to help you do more with your photos. This update introduces a folder view that makes it easy for you to see your OneDrive and PC folders in the Photos app. On your phone, you can also see folders on your SD card.



This update also brings faster photo viewing and context menus. Specifically, for phones, zoom and panning is faster, and we’ve introduced favorites. Make sure you’re running the latest version of the Photos app from the Store to see all these improvements on your phone (version 15.9).



This update hasn’t yet rolled out for PCs but will roll out shortly.

One-handed mode: When we introduced one-handed mode for larger phones, we heard feedback saying many Insiders would like it even on smaller devices. In this build, we have also enabled the ability to use one-handed mode on all phones which can be enabled by pressing and holding the Start button. When you do this, your screen will slide down so you can reach items at the top of your screen.



To slide the screen back up, tap the black space at the top of the screen, or press and hold the Start button again. One-handed use will also naturally time out after several seconds and return to your regular view. Give it a try and let us know what you think.

Share your feedback: Also as we have previously announced on the Windows Insider Preview build 10527 for PC, you can now share your feedback submitted through the Windows Feedback app.



Here are a few known issues for you to take note of for this build:

  • After rebooting your phone, you won’t see notifications, such as new messages, until you unlock your phone. After that, you should see notifications for new messages just fine.
  • “zStorage” appears in the Settings app under System and clicking on it causes the Settings app to crash.
  • Camera upload to OneDrive may not be enabled based on prior settings. To fix this, make sure you are running the latest version of OneDrive by opening the top left navigation bar, then settings on the right to verify that camera upload is turned on and you have the latest app (version 17.2).
  • Insiders will not be able to move from Slow to Fast rings temporarily; we are working on a fix but in the interim to move a device from Slow to Fast you will need to use the Windows Phone Recovery Tool to first start on Windows Phone 8.1 and opt directly into the Fast ring.
  • Additional languages for speech and keyboards won’t be available until tomorrow (9/15) and will error if you try to download. If you already have languages for speech and keyboards downloaded to your phone prior to upgrading, they will remain and available to use.
We also wanted to talk a little bit about Lumia 1020 camera features on Windows 10. Owners of the Lumia 1020 love using their phone’s amazing camera to capture high-fidelity photos and videos. If you recently upgraded your Lumia 1020 to a Windows 10 Insider Preview build, you might have been disappointed that your camera wasn’t working like you expect. Many of the Lumia 1020’s camera features, like 41MP capture and DNG files, only work with the Lumia Camera app. While the app works with Windows 10 Mobile, it won’t be available for download from the Store until later this fall.

To get all your Lumia 1020 camera features back, you need the Lumia Camera app installed on your phone. The easy solution is to wait until the app is available in the Store. If you don’t want to wait, you need to use the Windows Phone Recovery Tool to return to Windows Phone 8.1 in order to get the app back.

Note: These issues only affect the Lumia 1020. If you have a different Lumia phone, the default Windows Camera app already supports all Lumia features except Living Images, which are coming soon to the Lumia phones that have them today!

Thanks for putting up with this temporary loss of functionality on Lumia 1020 devices.

Remember to keep checking the Store and grab the latest app updates from there too and be sure to keep sending in your feedback via the Windows Feedback app!

Thanks,
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And, they, also, hinted that build 10536 will be out for the PC soon.

This update hasn’t yet rolled out for PCs but will roll out shortly.
 
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Well, long story short... keep getting "Frown Face" when trying to install latest build.
So, third time trying, I decided to stay on 8.1 until the next build comes out.
Guess, 10536 gives my 822 a bad taste, since I get the "Frown Face" on re-boot every time.

And, it seems a lot of insiders are having the same problems in the latest build.

If you are getting odd error codes when trying to run the update from build 10512 (update has to install 10514 then 10536), I found it may be that you need more space for the build to run.
Try deleting unneeded items, back up your needed files, save your settings, and remove your apps. I did this and it, at least, downloaded and installed; however, it still failed on the re-boot with that "Frown Face".

Patiently waiting for next preview build.
 
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@95Viper, have the builds progressed that far? I am on the fast ring and I am on build 10166.
 
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@95Viper, have the builds progressed that far? I am on the fast ring and I am on build 10166.
Yep... this is the fast track side; however, even on the slow track (if you are using a compatiable phone) you should be, at least, on 10512.
Run the insider app again, it may have forgotten you, too.

Announcing Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Build 10536

and, they are already releasing 10542 today for the PC side.

Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10547
 
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Yep... this is the fast track side; however, even on the slow track (if you are using a compatiable phone) you should be, at least, on 10512.
Run the insider app again, it may have forgotten you, too.

Announcing Windows 10 Mobile Insider Preview Build 10536

and, they are already releasing 10542 today for the PC side.

Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 10547
When I try to update it says I have 10512.1, 10514, and 10536.1 available. It will download them, but while preparing to install it fails. Seems I am stuck on 10166 for now.