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#52
From everything I heard about the AM2 chips currently that doesn't matter at all, and if the architecture of the PII is similar than shouldn't matter either. Heck on the i7 it supposedly doesn't matter if you have HT on or off for benching.
HT speed will limit memory bandwidth, the current AM2 cpu already at 1000Mhz, all information go in and out through Hyper Transport.

HT (Hyper Transport) = FSB = QPI (Not exactly, but they are similar).

HT with Nehalem isn't Hyper Transport, It's Hyper Threading, 2 threads per core, 4 cores = 8 threads. (Useless, if application/game only use 1 or 2 cores)

In this case, Hyper Transport would be QPI link for Nehalem , and It can't get any lower than 4800GT/s.
 
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#53
why do you constantly post in AMD threads if all your going to do is be negative?
Because he's an Intel fanboy troll.


feeding the trolls:laugh:
 
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#55
Not to rain on your parade but the Phenom II is TEH SUK :( - just trust me ok.. thanx
You are just trolling, You post without any proof that the PII sucks and tell us to just trust you?:shadedshu
 
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lol - because I have one and I hate it :D ... I am no troll because I speak the truth just a performance whore,... oh and it still sucks ;) :( yeah it clocks but w/o performance... no SS for you LOL

Edit - I have 2

Double Edit - The MSI 790GX Platinum board is epic fail ... wish AMD sent a DFI FX instead, oh well DFI is sending one anywho...
 
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lol - because I have one and I hate it :D ... I am no troll because I speak the truth just a performance whore,... oh and it still sucks ;) :( yeah it clocks but w/o performance... no SS for you LOL

Edit - I have 2
It's not out...
 
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hmm - if it is not out how are people getting and testing these ? I recall an event where they used them and OCed the hell out of them for show - did they use bogus stunt double chips or do you need to reword that semi-statement to not out for GENERAL PUBLIC:pimp::nutkick:

"of course it's not out yet MR., but I still have two :roll: "
 
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#59
Lots of people ( like hardware reviewers, beta testers, and employees of hardware & computer manufacturers, and some people working in distributors ) have some CPUs already.
And TheGoat Eater is one of them ;)
 
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Lots of people ( like hardware reviewers, beta testers, and employees of hardware & computer manufacturers, and some people working in distributors ) have some CPUs already.
And TheGoat Eater is one of them ;)
LOL you could just be another TheGoat Eeater who made another account for all we know.
 
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LOL you could just be another TheGoat Eeater who made another account for all we know.
Could be.
But I'm not.
If you're in doubt, my MSN is in my profile details ;)
 
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Lots of people ( like hardware reviewers, beta testers, and employees of hardware & computer manufacturers, and some people working in distributors ) have some CPUs already.
And TheGoat Eater is one of them ;)
Thanks man ;) never thought you would actually post on this forum... usually Greek sites and XS and other Hardcore places...

LOL you could just be another TheGoat Eeater who made another account for all we know.
FYI - http://benchzone.com/ this is his site ;) I would not pretend to be him as I would make an arse of my self trying to pretend I know my stuff as well as he does :toast: :respect:BZ - R E S P E C T :slap:
 
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Thanks man ;) never thought you would actually post on this forum... usually Greek sites and XS and other Hardcore places...
I'd like to participate in many forums around the globe, but my time is pretty limited lately.
I used to lurk TPU forums a wee bit over the last few years.


FYI - http://benchzone.com/ this is his site ;) I would not pretend to be him as I would make an arse of my self trying to pretend I know my stuff as well as he does :toast: :respect:BZ - R E S P E C T :slap:
Haha, no need to "advertise" my site mate :D
Thanks anyways.

Knowledge is something everyone can get, it just takes some studying and "practicing".
There's always something new out there for everyone, we learn new things every day ;)
 

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Not to rain on your parade but the Phenom II is TEH SUK :( - just trust me ok.. thanx

i heard the opposite from people who had them about a month ago?
 

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#66
I was spoiled be i7 and DDR3 - even C2D and DDR3/2 is better imho

Its a personal choice - not attacking just spouting of my impression of it - though the board REALLY sucks and I need a FX board to be happy/happier most likely
 
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Yea who cares. a 3 GHz C2D could beat it.
Haha that reminds me. On the way to my 7.5ghz P4 overclock the other day, I briefly stopped at 6.7ghz and ran a super pi 1m. And it took 20 seconds :D

Same here. When does the NDA lift again?
I think only a couple more days. It's around the 20th IIRC.
 

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i heard the opposite from people who had them about a month ago?
It's how you look at it that makes the difference between saying that it sucks or that it's a good product.

They do overclock better than the first generation of Phenoms, the average 24/7 stable overclock on air with a Phenom II 920 / 940 will be at approx 3.75GHz, with some good chips reaching or even surpassing the 4GHz mark by a bit, and some "duds" stopping at 3.6GHz or so.
Unfortunately they're not on par with a Core i7 ( even with HyperThreading disabled ) on a clock per clock basis ( clock per clock = running both processors at the same operating frequency ).
They're also behind "Penryn" ( Q9450/Q9550/Q9650/QX9650/QX9770 ) on a clock per clock basis as well.

The average 24/7 stable overclock of the Q9450's is now around 3.8GHz, and you need a approx. 4.15GHz overclock on a Phenom II 920/940 to beat the Q9450 clocked at 3.8GHz.

If you're looking for the absolute performance in most applications and usage scenarios Intel remains the top dog in the desktop sector.

If you already have a AM2 based setup, upgrading to a Phenom II will give you a healthy boost in the CPU limited applications.

In the end it all depends on what you want, what you have, what are you going to run on the PC, and your budget for the build/upgrade.

Same here. When does the NDA lift again?
January 8th, 2009

MSI - the board REALLY sucks and I need a FX board to be happy/happier most likely
Of course it sucks, it's... em es eye :p:
Any news on grabbing a M3A79T Deluxe ?

I think only a couple more days. It's around the 20th IIRC.
I've got some info from a shop here, they told me that they'll be selling the new Phenom II's on the 28th of this month, "we don't know about the rest" they said, so I guess they're just going to ignore the embargo ( NDA ).

Maybe AMD decided to change the day the NDA will be lifted ?
Don't think so, but I'm going to double-check it tomorrow.
 

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Haha that reminds me. On the way to my 7.5ghz P4 overclock the other day, I briefly stopped at 6.7ghz and ran a super pi 1m. And it took 20 seconds :D



I think only a couple more days. It's around the 20th IIRC.
it was the 20th but got moved back when they moved release day

hopefully with some non-ES bios's we can see some better clocks :D
 
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Thanks man ;) never thought you would actually post on this forum... usually Greek sites and XS and other Hardcore places...


FYI - http://benchzone.com/ this is his site ;) I would not pretend to be him as I would make an arse of my self trying to pretend I know my stuff as well as he does :toast: :respect:BZ - R E S P E C T :slap:
Well glad to see your not making more then one account, and nice to meet you lol.

And welcome benchzwoner
 

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And neither has C2D, which pwns i7 for high overclocks :rolleyes:
 

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#75
lol - because I have one and I hate it :D ... I am no troll because I speak the truth just a performance whore,... oh and it still sucks ;) :( yeah it clocks but w/o performance... no SS for you LOL

Edit - I have 2

Double Edit - The MSI 790GX Platinum board is epic fail ... wish AMD sent a DFI FX instead, oh well DFI is sending one anywho...
Damn it goat. You have me a bit worried. I've got a 940 on pre-order, after selling all of my Intel stuff. :mad::twitch: