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Woooooahhh: new OFFICIAL PII speed record

Discussion in 'Overclocking & Cooling' started by HTC, Dec 18, 2008.

  1. KBD New Member

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    why does the i7 have 2 L1 caches? i never noticed that before. congrats on the board, btw, that foxconn is sweet, if i go i7 thats what i'm getting.
     
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    that still doesnt tell me anything, lol
     
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    Hey BZ, any more benches for us?
     
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    I have a HDD here with results, but first I have to test a new beta BIOS for the BloodRage and get some things done because the BloodRage review is in top priority at the moment and I need to get it out ASAP and without reducing the details or the quality of the review.

    Let me get some things done and then I'll hook the HDD up and grab some scores & screenshots.

    As of tomorrow I'll more than likely have more stuff to share and more CPUs to test and overclock ( the shops are selling the CPUs now :D ).
     
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    Sorry for not dropping by earlier, but I've got some good news for you guys.
    The first part of the review series for the Phenom II's is now online on HWbox.gr ( a Greek hardware reviews website + forum ).
    The numbers in the charts are universal, don't know if Google translation or systran can output some readable text, but you can try.

    Phenom II Series Reviews - Part 1

    The tests were done with the CPUs at stock frequencies.
     
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    Woop! At last a detail benchmarks!

    EDIT: I was expecting 1 more option for Core i7, HT off.
     
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    We'll include those on the next parts, part II and part III :)
     
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    It really looks like PII is performing on par with Q9550/Q9650. Which for the price, is quite good.
     
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    Review updated, there's a new page with a x264 compression benchmark.
     
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    which is still awesome and just i what expected :rockout:
     
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    My 945 ES should be here today, with any luck. I'm hoping and keeping my fingers crossed.
     
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    The review has been updated and there are some new benches added.
    The clock per clock reviews ( Phenom I vs Phenom II @ 3GHz ) and ( Phenom II vs Q6600 vs Q9450 vs i7 @ 3.7GHz ) shall be ready soon.

    Make sure you check the thread in the AMD section @ XtremeSystems.org there are 5 charts from the forthcoming reviews there ;) [ page 6 currently ]
     
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    It has 2 Caches Like the AMD XP CPU does Instruction and Data. usually Described as L1D and L1I at least thats how its sounding.

    http://translate.google.com/transla...Ft%3D3189&hl=en&rls=SNCA,SNCA:2008-15,SNCA:en

    there is the current link that BenchZowner provided that has been translated into English Via Google
     
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    Seems like the NDA is not being apply in his case. Gratz for an early preview.
     
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    I reckon Paul didnt get his P2. Welcome B and thanks for all this useful Info. Its been a minute since I checked this thread out.
     
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    Phenom I vs Phenom II @ 3GHz both
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    Phenom II vs Q6600 vs Q9450 vs i7 @ 3.7GHz all
    [​IMG]
     
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    So if you got a decent Agena, PII isn't really worth it?
     
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    Don't rush into conclusions ;)
    I chose to show these benchmarks to show you that sometimes Phenom II enjoys a healthy lead over its predecessor, and sometimes they're pretty much performing equally.

    The full clock per clock review should be up today or tomorrow, and there are plenty of charts for you to check out and judge on whether the Phenom II is a worthy upgrade or not over a Phenom I.
     
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    If you agree with AMD logic of what is needed what is not is needed and what is sufficient.
    AMD are telling us that no one needs i7, that AMD does the job done which is true also true is that Q6600 is doing the job and E5200 50$ cpu is doing the job naturaly OC to 4 GHz.
    AMD is trying to win this by lowering price that is not way to go.
    Cost of manufacturing PII is no less than producing i7 so there is no excuse in performance vise.
    What AMD did with 48XX vs 260/280 series 256bit vs 512bit and size 1xdie vs 2.5xdie that is planed lower priced products and Phenom I and II are forced not enough power thing.
    look at this way if Intel wanted to kill AMD they need to do just one thing to match the price which they can like I said the cost to produce Phenom is no lower than i7.
    I don`t have nothing against AMD just this is hard truth. Every non AMD fan can see this it is not rocket sience.
     
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    Well I am pretty damn happy with my 9750 at 2.8ghz. Definitely better than my e7200 at 4ghz in most games, Supreme Commander and Source Engine Games I see the biggest gains.
     
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    It's running late due to the holidays. I'll cross my fingers for today.
     
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    Yeah same with my GPU and Kuma :(
     
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    If I not mistaken the PII die size is considerably smaller than that of the i7, therefore cheaper to manufacture. I believe the i7 is around 263mm, PII@ 243mm.
     
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    i think that has a lot to do with the fact the 9750 is a quad and e7200 is a dual. Supreme Commander benefits from 4 cores so the 9750 has an advatage over a dual. If you were to compare your 9750 to a q6600 or a q9450 i'm sure intel will take the lead due to having a superior architecture. But with Phenom 2 that will change, now it will be on par with 775 intel quads.
     

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