Woooooahhh: new OFFICIAL PII speed record

[KBD]

We have a total of 3 Phenom II's here, two 940s and one 920.
On air our best 940 did 3.89GHz "fully stable" ( 6 hours prime95 ), our second 940 did 3.77GHz "fully stable" ( 5 hours prime95 ) and the 920 stopped at 3.71GHz "fully stable" ( 6 hours prime95 ) and benchable at 3.95GHz, would rarely pass SuperPi 1M at 4G on air.

yea, i'm also interested in the voltages and load/idle temps. Also, have u guys tried putting Phenom 2 on water and if you did how high did you get it? If you didnt would you care to make a guess whats the average frequency on water would be?

 

[BenchZowner]

Still rocking on LN2 ( got more LN2 delivered ), I have to head back in soon some people left and our hands count is lower and the dewar is too heavy for 2 people to handle it and pour the LN2 into the thermos alone.

Some quickies from the review rig:
Q6600 @ 3.1GHz 3D Mark06 CPU Score = 4468 @ Vista x64
940 @ 3.1GHz 3D Mark06 CPU Score = 4225 @ Vista x64

Fully stable on air ( ThermalRight Ultra-120 ) at 3.7GHz with 1.458V ( DMM ).
Idle temp 28C/29C/28C/28C
Full Load temp 45C/44C/46C/45C
Room temp... unknown, we don't have any thermometer probe available ( all of them are "mounted" underneath the insulation on pots ), should be relatively cold with all this liquid nitrogen

Phenom II 940 @ 3D Mark06 CPU Score @ 3.72GHz = 4998

Some good news... I have seen another shop advertise the CPUs on their site, and lists the 920 as available for purchase.
The NDA lift date is still 08/01/2009 - 09/01/2009 depending on your location on earth as far as I've been told.
Don't know if these stores are going to sell them "illegally" before the NDA lifts, or AMD changed their plans and asked the resellers to start selling them and still hold the press with the NDA for the reviews, etc.

It certainly looks like that we shall be able to buy them before Christmas, and in other places just 2 days after Christmas.

I might post again later on.

p.s.1. Nobody brought any watercooling parts or setup with him here, so no we didn't get a chance to put them under water.
I'd say depending on your luck of draw you shall be stable somewhere in between 3.8GHz and 4.1GHz with a decent water cooling setup.
Note that the 4.1GHz is going to be tough to get, unless you're a very lucky sod

p.s.2. Solaris17: The average Q6600 G0 provided that you have some decent air cooling can hit something between 3.7GHz and 3.8GHz fully stable, and that is enough to beat a Phenom II @ 3.1GHz if that's what you mean.
If we max out two average CPUs, the Q6600 will be at 3.75GHz and the Phenom II at 3.7GHz, and the Phenom will be faster than the Q6600 in most applications.

 

[PaulieG]

Still rocking on LN2 ( got more LN2 delivered ), I have to head back in soon some people left and our hands count is lower and the dewar is too heavy for 2 people to handle it and pour the LN2 into the thermos alone.

Some quickies from the review rig:
Q6600 @ 3.1GHz 3D Mark06 CPU Score = 4468 @ Vista x64
940 @ 3.1GHz 3D Mark06 CPU Score = 4225 @ Vista x64

Fully stable on air ( ThermalRight Ultra-120 ) at 3.7GHz with 1.458V ( DMM ).
Idle temp 28C/29C/28C/28C
Full Load temp 45C/44C/46C/45C
Room temp... unknown, we don't have any thermometer probe available ( all of them are "mounted" underneath the insulation on pots ), should be relatively cold with all this liquid nitrogen

Phenom II 940 @ 3D Mark06 CPU Score @ 3.72GHz = 4998

Some good news... I have seen another shop advertise the CPUs on their site, and lists the 920 as available for purchase.
The NDA lift date is still 08/01/2009 - 09/01/2009 depending on your location on earth as far as I've been told.
Don't know if these stores are going to sell them "illegally" before the NDA lifts, or AMD changed their plans and asked the resellers to start selling them and still hold the press with the NDA for the reviews, etc.

It certainly looks like that we shall be able to buy them before Christmas, and in other places just 2 days after Christmas.

I might post again later on.

p.s.1. Nobody brought any watercooling parts or setup with him here, so no we didn't get a chance to put them under water.
I'd say depending on your luck of draw you shall be stable somewhere in between 3.8GHz and 4.1GHz with a decent water cooling setup.
Note that the 4.1GHz is going to be tough to get, unless you're a very lucky sod

p.s.2. Solaris17: The average Q6600 G0 provided that you have some decent air cooling can hit something between 3.7GHz and 3.8GHz fully stable, and that is enough to beat a Phenom II @ 3.1GHz if that's what you mean.
If we max out two average CPUs, the Q6600 will be at 3.75GHz and the Phenom II at 3.7GHz, and the Phenom will be faster than the Q6600 in most applications.

Thanks for the numbers. Hey, would any of those sites selling the PII be in the US?

 

[BenchZowner]

Thanks for the numbers. Hey, would any of those sites selling the PII be in the US?

Nope.
I'm currently in Greece, Europe and the two sites that have the CPUs on sale are local ( Greek ).
I've also seen 2 sites listing the CPUs for pre-order for the 27th of Dec as well.

 

[fullinfusion]

Nope.
I'm currently in Greece, Europe and the two sites that have the CPUs on sale are local ( Greek ).
I've also seen 2 sites listing the CPUs for pre-order for the 27th of Dec as well.

would ya mind linking those sites mate?

 

[Solaris17]

Still rocking on LN2 ( got more LN2 delivered ), I have to head back in soon some people left and our hands count is lower and the dewar is too heavy for 2 people to handle it and pour the LN2 into the thermos alone.

Some quickies from the review rig:
Q6600 @ 3.1GHz 3D Mark06 CPU Score = 4468 @ Vista x64
940 @ 3.1GHz 3D Mark06 CPU Score = 4225 @ Vista x64

Fully stable on air ( ThermalRight Ultra-120 ) at 3.7GHz with 1.458V ( DMM ).
Idle temp 28C/29C/28C/28C
Full Load temp 45C/44C/46C/45C
Room temp... unknown, we don't have any thermometer probe available ( all of them are "mounted" underneath the insulation on pots ), should be relatively cold with all this liquid nitrogen

Phenom II 940 @ 3D Mark06 CPU Score @ 3.72GHz = 4998

Some good news... I have seen another shop advertise the CPUs on their site, and lists the 920 as available for purchase.
The NDA lift date is still 08/01/2009 - 09/01/2009 depending on your location on earth as far as I've been told.
Don't know if these stores are going to sell them "illegally" before the NDA lifts, or AMD changed their plans and asked the resellers to start selling them and still hold the press with the NDA for the reviews, etc.

It certainly looks like that we shall be able to buy them before Christmas, and in other places just 2 days after Christmas.

I might post again later on.

p.s.1. Nobody brought any watercooling parts or setup with him here, so no we didn't get a chance to put them under water.
I'd say depending on your luck of draw you shall be stable somewhere in between 3.8GHz and 4.1GHz with a decent water cooling setup.
Note that the 4.1GHz is going to be tough to get, unless you're a very lucky sod

p.s.2. Solaris17: The average Q6600 G0 provided that you have some decent air cooling can hit something between 3.7GHz and 3.8GHz fully stable, and that is enough to beat a Phenom II @ 3.1GHz if that's what you mean.
If we max out two average CPUs, the Q6600 will be at 3.75GHz and the Phenom II at 3.7GHz, and the Phenom will be faster than the Q6600 in most applications.

thanks apprecioate the statistics.

 

[3dsage]

would ya mind linking those sites mate?

IDK but this site in greece looks like its about to put the x4 920 up for grabs.
http://www.wikio.co.uk/guide/amd-review-5978-5175-page2-sort0.html?tf25=Socket+AM2+

 

[TheGoat Eater]

Ok...OK... here is my 940

well under the Domino that is :

 

[ShadowFold]

How is that DFI 790FX clocking it man? I am gonna buy one soon.

 

[TheGoat Eater]

ran up past 240 - while my RAM was @ 1300~ or so (650) I didn't pay attention as I was focused on the RAM which I ended up going to about 1340...

 

[ShadowFold]

Would you recommend it for a Phenom II then?

 

[TheGoat Eater]

yeah I guess.... IDK as I am not an AMD guy and have spent more time with Intel...

 

[BenchZowner]

would ya mind linking those sites mate?

I would but I just noticed that they removed the CPUs from the list
The AMD representatives in Greece must have noticed that and asked them to remove them.
There's another shop now listing the Phenom II 920 & 940 on their site, indicating that they don't have them in stock, but still list the prices and allow you to pre-order them.

Phenom II 920 - 210€ ( VAT 19% inc. )
Phenom II 940 - 247€ ( VAT 19% inc. )

The first shops that listed them were the biggest shops here, and that makes it easy for the distributor to find them if they list something that they're not supposed to show.
Their prices were a bit higher than the linked site, the linked site is a relatively new and small shop that wants to attract more customers by selling the stuff cheaper than the rest.

No matter what, I'm quite sure ( and insured by a friend who's working for one of the big shops ) that they'll start selling the Phenom II's on the 27th

 

[ShadowFold]

I would but I just noticed that they removed the CPUs from the list
The AMD representatives in Greece must have noticed that and asked them to remove them.
There's another shop now listing the Phenom II 920 & 940 on their site, indicating that they don't have them in stock, but still list the prices and allow you to pre-order them.

Phenom II 920 - 210€ ( VAT 19% inc. )
Phenom II 940 - 247€ ( VAT 19% inc. )

The first shops that listed them were the biggest shops here, and that makes it easy for the distributor to find them if they list something that they're not supposed to show.
Their prices were a bit higher than the linked site, the linked site is a relatively new and small shop that wants to attract more customers by selling the stuff cheaper than the rest.

No matter what, I'm quite sure ( and insured by a friend who's working for one of the big shops ) that they'll start selling the Phenom II's on the 27th

How much is that with out VAT? Thats 350$ for the 940 and 300$ for 920 with those prices :shadedshu shame..

 

[BenchZowner]

How much is that with out VAT? Thats 350$ for the 940 and 300$ for 920 with those prices :shadedshu shame..

approx 207.5 for the 940, and 176.5 for the 920.

 

[ShadowFold]

approx 207.5 for the 940, and 176.5 for the 920.

Oh thats better.. 277$, probably will be 250-300$ at launch.

 

[BenchZowner]

Here's a picture from the session, sorry for the quality, it's not my cellphone

 

[PaulieG]

Here's a picture from the session, sorry for the quality, it's not my cellphone

Sweet, any more results for us? I'll have some screenies on a 945 BE ES chip in about a week. Can't wait to get her on water.

 

[HTC]

WR ... again ...

6221.19 MHz

http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=467243

 

[ShadowFold]

Anyone wanna hook a brotha up with one of them bad boys

 

[PaulieG]

Anyone wanna hook a brotha up with one of them bad boys

PM me.

 

[BenchZowner]

Hey folks
I'm at my place now and waiting for FedEx to deliver a package and then I'll hit the road and go to the "lab" to get the data off the HDDs from the benching session.

@HTC:
There's already a 6.31GHz screenshot/validation ( not published online yet ), but unfortunately it looks like there will be only a few chips that can do over 5.6GHz, and even less over 6GHz.

 

[HTC]

Hey folks
I'm at my place now and waiting for FedEx to deliver a package and then I'll hit the road and go to the "lab" to get the data off the HDDs from the benching session.

@HTC:
There's already a 6.31GHz screenshot/validation ( not published online yet ), but unfortunately it looks like there will be only a few chips that can do over 5.6GHz, and even less over 6GHz.

Thanks for the info, dude!

One thing i'd like to point out is that you don't have to have ridiculous good RAM to have a good OC because the relationship between proc speed and RAM speed is more independent: that also causes the i7 to speed away when OCed to the same speed as Phenom II.

One advantage of this for Phenom II: you can OC higher while keeping your costs down because you can used less quality RAM and still get a good OC, unlike i7.

 

[BenchZowner]

Thanks for the info, dude!

You're welcome
If I have something to share and have nothing preventing me from doing it, I can't find a reason why I shouldn't share the info
This is one of the reasons such communities exist.

One thing i'd like to point out is that you don't have to have ridiculous good RAM to have a good OC because the relationship between proc speed and RAM speed is more independent: that also causes the i7 to speed away when OCed to the same speed as Phenom II.

You can use some bulky value RAM with both platforms nowadays.
Of course if you compare the capacities DDR2 is still a bit cheaper than DDR3, but that is going to change in the forthcoming months.
You can do your thing with a cheap DDR2 kit and with one of the cheapest DDR3 kits ( a DDR3-1333 kit ).
Cheap or not so cheap, you can always find some "gems" without emptying your pockets, as long as you know what to look for

 

[BenchZowner]

You're clearly forgetting that:

1) The HyperThreading Technology is disabled, as a result you're seeing a small difference between the CPUs, while it can be way bigger.

2) Once again what you can't seem to understand is that:
Once I leave the Core i7 reach the 15s mark, it's already at 35 and sometimes at 36.

The extraction process is less dependent on the CPU, but the Core i7 is still faster.

Decent performance in WinRAR without even trying ?

Edit:
F*, I'm an idiot, didn't see it coming, I got the CPU-z window covered
The CPU Frequency in this screenshot is 3.4GHz.