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Let me first of all quote two posts from the TPU WCG team thread:

There has been a thought in my mind, but I don't think it is a good idea, I suppose. The proposal would be to have a CEP2 challenge from 6-13 oktober (letting the challenge run (more or less) in parallel to the World Solar Challenge 2013), but because of practical reasons we probably won't do that. Not everyone has an internet connection capable of doing (many) CEP2 WUs and I am not able to asess the researchers ability to suppy enough WUs during a spike in crunching activity; especially if we will attempt to seek a wider audience than only those teams already crunching for WCG.
So if such a challenge will be there, it will be similar to the Mothers' Day Challlenge I suppose, w.o.w. only asking existing WCG members to join.

So, will we consider a CEP2 challenge to be held in that period and if we do, will we be only asking current WCG teams or will we be asking other BOINC teams to join the challenge as well?
October is a good month for a challenge- we could do all projects but with a caveat that CEP2 has to be run as well. Would you want to follow the World Solar Challenge 2013? (ex-10/19-10/27).

You're free to start a planning thread in the WCG section here to discuss like we've done in the past. As usual- count me in :)
Well, becaue our Assistant Captain Norton already gave his "permission" to start a challenge in october, I gave the details a bit more thought.

I suggest that we will run the challenge from 6 october 2013 @ 0:00 UTC until 14 october 2013 @ 0:00 UTC, more or less in paralel to the World Solar Challenge 2013. I also suggest choosing either "results returned" or "increase in results" as the type of chalenge, selecting the Clean Energy Project - Phase 2 as the challenge project. The two challenge types I suggested will make sure that participating WCG teams will not be "forced" to crunch only CEP2 WUs (because CEP2 can be a nut too tough to crack for some because of heat/power and/or the WU size).
 

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Well, becaue our Assistant Captain Norton already gave his "permission" to start a challenge in october, I gave the details a bit more thought.
As stated in the Team thread- count me in! :toast:

Just to clarify regarding "permission"- It's not like that at all, my apologies if you felt as such... not my intention nor is it my place to do so. Anything that I posted are suggestions or comments only. Planning threads tend to bring all of the ideas and planning forward w/o getting diluted through the Team thread.

Any Team member is free to suggest, plan, discuss, or take the lead on participating in any challenge, contest, or project. Final project, whatever it is, will still be subjected to forum rules and our Captain's approval.

Sound good? ;)
 
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eee-yep :toast:
 

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Count me in, always enjoy the challenges.

Oh, and I hope there will be giveaways :D :D :D
 

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FYI- here's the list of challenges past, present, future from the WCG website as a reference:

https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.o...lterType=0&filterOpen=-1&pageNum=1&listType=3

My suggestion would be to either:

A- post the challenge on WCG as total points or total runtime for All projects and then require WCG-TPU members to include CEP2 in their project list as an internal Team requirement or a Team prize drawing requirement.

or

B- post the challenge on WCG as a CEP2 challenge (type of challenge TBD)

Personally I prefer A over B due to the issues that CEP2 has with large download sizes, long runtimes, and elevated system requirement compared to other projects. Example- I can't run CEP2 exclusively on at least two of my rigs due to the download sizes (scavenging a free wifi connection on those rigs to get work uploaded/downloaded on them atm :eek:)

My $0.02
 
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Count me in, hell always count me in. LOL
 

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I would like to participate but half my crunchers have froze up from a cep2 wu. Only one was overclocked.
 
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FYI- here's the list of challenges past, present, future from the WCG website as a reference:

https://secure.worldcommunitygrid.o...lterType=0&filterOpen=-1&pageNum=1&listType=3

My suggestion would be to either:

A- post the challenge on WCG as total points or total runtime for All projects and then require WCG-TPU members to include CEP2 in their project list as an internal Team requirement or a Team prize drawing requirement.

or

B- post the challenge on WCG as a CEP2 challenge (type of challenge TBD)

Personally I prefer A over B due to the issues that CEP2 has with large download sizes, long runtimes, and elevated system requirement compared to other projects. Example- I can't run CEP2 exclusively on at least two of my rigs due to the download sizes (scavenging a free wifi connection on those rigs to get work uploaded/downloaded on them atm :eek:)

My $0.02
I also think that A is the best possible choice, the concerns you give are the very reasons I started discussing things early.
 
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Count me in. My little ASUS Ultrabook can handle them! Although each one runs for about 14 hours. So, it is unlikely I will contend against the mighty cruncher machines on this team, I will participate towards a personal goal.

Whatever that may be. :confused:

I can try to not be last! :D
 
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Fourteen hours is very reasonable, actually.
 
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I have selected The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2 on my WCG profile last month but still didnt get any WUs of the same. No problem in other 2 project's WUs though.
 
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Probably because the buffer settings you chose do not have enough room ("days of extra work" on >1 is recommended)
 
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I am definitely in. As for some time now CEP2 is my "bread and butter" :laugh:
(running much more CEP2 than all the other projects combined [which is FAAH and SN2S at the moment])
 

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Certainly count me in--I might as well make use of the unlimited internet connection as well :rolleyes:
 
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Probably because the buffer settings you chose do not have enough room ("days of extra work" on >1 is recommended)
How is that done? I've also been getting FighAIDS@Home and Say No To Schistosoma WUs for quite some time, mostly the previous one. Ever since I've installed BOINC it's been on default settings. :)

BTW count me in too! :toast:
 
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In your device profile settings, scroll the page down to "Workunit Cache Settings" and fill in "0" and for example "1.5" in the first respectively second field you see there.
 
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Device settings...

These two settings are what, mostly, got them started for me.

I also had to allow a bit more space for BOINC to use on my hard drive. I moved it up to 3GB and now they load up every day, or so when they are done.

 

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Bumping this thread back up to keep the interest in it going :)

I'm going to propose/organize a "warm up" Challenge for September 20-22 in order to get some of the interested TPU membership thinking WCG before this larger challenge gets here. I'll offer up a $25 Paypal gift at the end and work with Manofthem on setting up a game giveaway to kick it off.

Stay tuned- I'll post something up tonight :toast:

**EDIT**
Thread started here:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190156
 
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Awesome! I'm happy to throw in prizes as well--Norton, I'll drop you a PM!
 

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#22
Bumping this thread back up to keep the interest in it going :)

I'm going to propose/organize a "warm up" Challenge for September 20-22 in order to get some of the interested TPU membership thinking WCG before this larger challenge gets here. I'll offer up a $25 Paypal gift at the end and work with Manofthem on setting up a game giveaway to kick it off.

Stay tuned- I'll post something up tonight :toast:
Sounds great Norton! I just got your PM and will be responding soon. I'll also check to see if I have anything in the way of prizes too. :)

Btw I think its a great idea because I'm currently not running any CEP2 and this would be a great beginning, plus iron out all the kinks before the challenge starts.
 
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BTW, shall we rename the "World CEP2 Challenge" "October Challenge"? This because we are likely to not focus on CEP2, making the play on words with "CEP2" and "World Solar Challenge" a bit unsuitable.

Note: I got to leave soon but tonight or tomorrow I will still expand this post with info on the way I want to organise things (with your agreement).
 
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BTW, shall we rename the "World CEP2 Challenge" "October Challenge"? This because we are likely to not focus on CEP2, making the play on words with "CEP2" and "World Solar Challenge" a bit unsuitable.
IMHO we should leave it at World CEP2 Challenge (or a name you choose/fits in the challenge application system)... only a small change is necessary to run more work units and many have been researching what's needed to improve their CEP2 output (myself included).

There are only 3 projects currently but we shouldn't penalize those who can't run CEP2 effectively.... hence the "all projects" suggestion

Your call
 
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We keep it named the "World CEP2 Challenge", then. We could certainly leave it on "all projects". How can we handle the "eligible for prices" stuff best? A certain amount of CEP2 units? If so, what would be the most reliable way to see stats on that?