Worth the upgrade from 4650 to 5670?

BrooksyX · Dec 14, 2010

So my current 4650 wasnt cutting it in starcraft 2 (only pc game I play), so I decided it was time to bite the bullet and buy a new graphics card. There are not a whole lot of options out there as I have a low profile case that only accepts half-height cards.

So my old card was an ati 4650 512mb 64bit ddr2
New card on the was is an ati 5670 512mb 128bit ddr5: MSI R5670-PD512 Radeon HD 5670 512MB 128-bit GDDR5...

So do you guys think it will be a decent upgrade with my intel celeron e1400? (I know I need a new cpu, but has to wait.) I play on a 19" lcd at 1440x900.

Thanks :toast:

Over_Lord · Dec 14, 2010

it's the CPU la

BrooksyX · Dec 14, 2010

thunderising said:
it's the CPU la

that wasnt my question.

Flibolito · Dec 14, 2010

For $80+ I would say it's not worth it. I know your case is holding you back as well as the cpu.
My advice is to sit tight, save some cash and then build a new computer selling off the old one to someone who needs a rig that does not do any gaming. If it was $40 I would say go for it but $80 is just to steep considering you wont see much of an improvement.

Volkszorn88 · Dec 14, 2010

Hey, I have a XFX 5670 that I can sell for 45-50 USD. PM if you're interested and I'll send you pics.

It's just laying around since I have a 5850.

Flibolito · Dec 14, 2010

There is a much more reasonable upgrade from Volkszorn88.

Volkszorn88 · Dec 14, 2010

Flibolito said:
There is a much more reasonable upgrade from Volkszorn88.

I know his cpu is kind of holding him back, but at least I can sale it to him for a good price saving him money so he can put towards his cpu. And his motherboard supports both duo and quad.

And I know for a fact that this card plays sc2, tf2, l4d, red alert 3, cod4..etc 'cause it was in my gf's comp for about 2 months until she bought an Asus G73JH A1 laptop.

BrooksyX · Dec 14, 2010

Sorry I didn't make it clear, I already bought the card. Only cost me 60 for an open box though. You don't think going from 64 bit ddr2 to 128 bit ddr5 is a good upgrade? The 4650 and 5670 uses the same power as well so I won't be sacraficing on that end.

Edit: thanks for the offer but remember card must be LOW PROFILE. I'm pretty sure xfx doesn't have a low profile 5670.

Volkszorn88 · Dec 14, 2010

The thing is, you might not or most likely won't see a huge difference with the new card due to your CPU holding you back. I just checked out, you can buy either a duo-core or quad.

If you want a decent duo on the cheap, here's the Intel Core2 E7500 for $125
Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz 3MB L2 Cach...

Also it is a low-profile card. This is the exact same one I own. XFX HD-567X-YNF3 Radeon HD 5670 512MB 128-bit DDR5...

Anyway, best of luck.

BrooksyX · Dec 14, 2010

I really don't want CPU suggestions. This is in the gpu section not CPU. I guess I'll just have. To wait till Saturday when I get my hands on it to find out.

Volkszorn88 · Dec 14, 2010

Also, I would ask you if you ever wanted to 1v1 in sc2, but I don't think you have an EU account.

BrooksyX · Dec 14, 2010

Volkszorn88 said:
The thing is, you might not or most likely won't see a huge difference with the new card due to your CPU holding you back. I just checked out, you can buy either a duo-core or quad.

If you want a decent duo on the cheap, here's the Intel Core2 E7500 for $125
Intel Core2 Duo E7500 Wolfdale 2.93GHz 3MB L2 Cach...

Also it is a low-profile card. This is the exact same one I own. XFX HD-567X-YNF3 Radeon HD 5670 512MB 128-bit DDR5...

Anyway, best of luck.

that is not a low profile card, that is a single slot cooler card. Big difference. Low profile is half the standard height of regular cards

BrooksyX · Dec 14, 2010

Volkszorn88 said:
Also, I would ask you if you ever wanted to 1v1 in sc2, but I don't think you have an EU account.

I'd be down but I'm on the north America server sorry

Peter1986C · Dec 14, 2010

Volkszorn88 said:
Also it is a low-profile card. This is the exact same one I own. XFX HD-567X-YNF3 Radeon HD 5670 512MB 128-bit DDR5...

That ain't low-profile dude. A LP card has a PCB of ~ half the width.

Edit: BrooksyX was quicker.

Flibolito · Dec 14, 2010

For $60 it seems like an ok upgrade. The memory bandwidth will help a little for sure, hopefully it will smooth things out for you. what kind of fps was the 4670 getting once units started to roll out?

Dent1 · Dec 14, 2010

It's a small upgrade, but I doubt you'll notice a difference but honestly its your CPU holding you back. You'd be better off with your old 4650 + a lowend quad core than the 5670 + E1400.

Fourstaff · Dec 14, 2010

I am not sure what you are talking about "gpu not cutting it in SC2", because I am running a rig with mobility 4570 (specs on sig) just fine with everything lowest. Computer lags horribly during large battles, and I am very sure that's the CPU holding it back, because low fps occurs even if I don't see the big battle going on (focusing on my econ).

Shameless bump for SC2 Clubhouse!

Starcraft II Clubhouse

AlienIsGOD · Dec 14, 2010

PowerColor AX5750 1GBD5-LH Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-... That would be one of the ultimate LP cards from the ATI camp.

I have a Powercolor 4650 64bit in my wife's rig and its slow as hell in any new games..... If i had the card you bought, then the gaming expereince would go waaaaaay up on that comp. IIRC 128bit DDR5 is about the same speeds as 256bit DDR3, and the only thing lower than 64bit is the 32bit HD4200 IGP. So i would say the gaming expereince OVERALL would be much better than the HTPC friendly 4650.

brandonwh64 · Dec 14, 2010

broosky, only way to find out is to install the 5670 in your PC and see what FPS that card makes from your old one. If it makes better frames then YAY! if not then its most likly the CPU in which you could probly get a E5200 that will OC nice for like 45-50$

Its up to you, cant wait to hear what it does after you test

Cruc1al · Dec 14, 2010

Just buying a CPU woulnd't upgrade his framerates much either. What he needs to do eventually to get decent framerates is upgrade both the GPU and the CPU. If the GPU isn't bottlenecked, 5670 will more than double the framerates compared to 4650, so getting that card for $60 is a very decent upgrade.

Fourstaff · Dec 14, 2010

But if it does, which we all suspect, his $60 will have no impact on framerates

Cruc1al · Dec 14, 2010

I suppose it's best to find out if that's the case, and if it isn't, you'll know you don't necessarily need a new CPU just yet.

Fourstaff · Dec 14, 2010

http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,...CPU-benchmarks-x-Core-i5/i7-leading/Practice/

how bout some proof then?

BrooksyX · Dec 14, 2010

ha well does anyone wanna sell me a good cpu for cheap then?

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