worth the upgrade?

[freakshow]

ok its been a hot minutes since i been on techpowerup. lol

anyways im getting ready to build me a new system for gaming and photo editing.
i got most of the parts that want picked out, but cant decide if i want to upgrade cpu.
currently running Ryzen 1700x, but kind of want to go with Ryzen 3900x.
so is it worth the upgrade?

Also side note will be running a AMD 5700 Graphics, and also software Adobe Lightroom and photoshop

 

[EarthDog]

Well, ipc is better on the 3000 series as well as the cpu having more cores/threads. 'Worth it' is up to you, though.

I assume a better mobo than what you have listed for it though, yes?

 

[freakshow]

Well, ipc is better on the 3000 series as well as the cou having more cores/threads. 'Worth it' is up to you, though.

I assume a better mobo than what you have listed for it though, yes?

yes would be purchasing better motherboard
guess im also asking would there be noticeable performance gain.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Yes, it would be very noticeable. Went from a 1700 to a 3800X and it was much more noticeable than I expected.

 

[EarthDog]

It should be, yeah. Faster clocks, better ipc, more cores/threads if you can use them.

 

[S4BRE]

It's worth it if you can sell off your current chip to offset the cost of buying the newer series Ryzen chip.

 

[freakshow]

Well I wouldn't be selling off my older ryzen, would be giving it to the gf for her as an upgrade since she is running amd 7860k apu platform.

 

[Hyderz]

it would be a good upgrade, productivity you will gain 40%+ increased performance
gaming wise its between 15-25% increased performance

 

[Zach_01]

Depending the productivity workload the 3900X over 1700X offers performance increase from +35% up to +140%

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

for home pc? 3850X might be worth looking at.

 

[freakshow]

Depending the productivity workload the 3900X over 1700X offers performance increase from +35% up to +140%

I'm a photographer so I'm always editing. Lol

for home pc? 3850X might be worth looking at.

Yes a home pc, and im not finding anything 3850x?

 

[EarthDog]

I'd imagine he meant 3950x?

 

[bug]

Photo editing software is among the few types of software that really likes more cores (also the reason I upgraded from 4c/4t ). So yeah, even if gaming won't be that much better, your photo editing will.
Faster RAM than your current DDR4 3000 goes without saying tho

 

[EarthDog]

Photo editing software is among the few types of software that really likes more cores

Indeed. However this also varies by software and what filters, etc are being used. Some functions are GPU accelerated instead core. So it depends.

 

[freakshow]

Photo editing software is among the few types of software that really likes more cores (also the reason I upgraded from 4c/4t ). So yeah, even if gaming won't be that much better, your photo editing will.
Faster RAM than your current DDR4 3000 goes without saying tho

yeah i updated specs ram is running at 3200

edit: yeah i would be purchesing new ram. i wouldn't be using what i be using now.

 

[bug]

yeah i updated specs ram is running at 3200

You do know 3000 series loves DDR4 3600, don't you?

Indeed. However this also varies by software and what filters, etc are being used. Some functions are GPU accelerated instead core. So it depends.

Yeah, it depends. Years ago, when I tried GPU acceleration in PS on a Nvidia GPU I was getting crashes for things as "complicated" as scrolling. I figured it was something to do with my setup, but since I couldn't figure it out, that didn't help me much. On the upside, I didn't need PS for too long.

 

[eidairaman1]

Grab a sapphire 5700

 

[John Naylor]

Have you compared the TPU test results ?

From a performance standpoint, I don't see the 3900x winning any of the above ... However ... 9900k prices have been rising and 3900X prices have been dropping in recent month. At some point, the 3900x might be more attractive. As a photographer, how much is your time worth ? In Photo Editing 3900x was 10.4% slower. If ya charge $100 an hour, you'll make up the extra cost after half day.

On the other hand ... what's on the table for this upgrade ? ... A 34" wide monitor is a bit unusual in the photo editing world, but if it's staying that would kinda dictate the GFX card choice. That knocks out CUDA acceleration from an nVidia card but these days a GTX 1060 or Vega 64 are only about 8% slower than an 2080 in this arena.

I can see going either way depending on whether the priority is cost or performance.

 

[freakshow]

Have you compared the TPU test results ?

From a performance standpoint, I don't see the 3900x winning any of the above ... However ... 9900k prices have been rising and 3900X prices have been dropping in recent month. At some point, the 3900x might be more attractive. As a photographer, how much is your time worth ? In Photo Editing 3900x was 10.4% slower. If ya charge $100 an hour, you'll make up the extra cost after half day.

Might just keep using the 1700x if it's only like 200ms differences for now and wait couple months on 3900x and see if price drops anymore.


I have a dual monitor setup lol as for the 34" ultrawide got a really good deal on it awhile back so I grabbed it that's what I usually game on.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Have you compared the TPU test results ?

From a performance standpoint, I don't see the 3900x winning any of the above ... However ... 9900k prices have been rising and 3900X prices have been dropping in recent month. At some point, the 3900x might be more attractive. As a photographer, how much is your time worth ? In Photo Editing 3900x was 10.4% slower. If ya charge $100 an hour, you'll make up the extra cost after half day.

On the other hand ... what's on the table for this upgrade ? ... A 34" wide monitor is a bit unusual in the photo editing world, but if it's staying that would kinda dictate the GFX card choice. That knocks out CUDA acceleration from an nVidia card but these days a GTX 1060 or Vega 64 are only about 8% slower than an 2080 in this arena.

I can see going either way depending on whether the priority is cost or performance.

Those are quite old results now and performance has improved as new AGESA versions have been released, so I have a feeling that some of those numbers have improved a bit.

Might just keep using the 1700x if it's only like 200ms differences for now and wait couple months on 3900x and see if price drops anymore.


I have a dual monitor setup lol as for the 34" ultrawide got a really good deal on it awhile back so I grabbed it that's what I usually game on.

Might be worth waiting for the 4000-series if you're not in a rush, should be out in 6-7 months if the 3000-series launch schedule is anything to go by.

 

[freakshow]

Might be worth waiting for the 4000-series if you're not in a rush, should be out in 6-7 months if the 3000-series launch schedule is anything to go by.

i was thinking about the 4000 series also.

 

[bug]

Those are quite old results now and performance has improved as new AGESA versions have been released, so I have a feeling that some of those numbers have improved a bit.


Might be worth waiting for the 4000-series if you're not in a rush, should be out in 6-7 months if the 3000-series launch schedule is anything to go by.

i was thinking about the 4000 series also.

Keep in mind, 4000 series will need a new mobo. Might be worth it, though.

 

[freakshow]

Keep in mind, 4000 series will need a new mobo. Might be worth it, though.

Of course lol yeah going to keep 1700x and see what 4000 series have to offer since it's supposed to come out this year.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

I'd imagine he meant 3950x?

intentional, just checking if you were awake.

Of course lol yeah going to keep 1700x and see what 4000 series have to offer since it's supposed to come out this year.

i like this idea too

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Of course lol yeah going to keep 1700x and see what 4000 series have to offer since it's supposed to come out this year.

Worst case scenario the gains aren't super impressive but you still get a 3000 chip at decent discount. So to me that is a win either way.