Well Kei just to clear this up for you and everyone else turbo mode only increases the multi from 20 to 21, I still had it on, but it does not boost performance. Hyper threading however is a world of a difference with a benchmark like this. I said it once, the Phenom II is not much slower than the Core i7 (no HT) clock for clock. But whenever I wanted to do a comparison with someone everybodfy backed off and said, oh no no way, its not fair DDR3. WTF, its just a comparison. I could just imagine a Phenom II with DDR3, should be very interesting. I do agree Phenom II and COre i7 are two bad ass CPU's!!