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X1800XT slower than 7900GT

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  1. D_o_S

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    At least according to The Inquirer. Their first tests showed that at standard clocks, the 7900GT proved faster than a X1800XT. Not only did the 7900GT beat the X1800XT, but it is cheaper to manufacture, runs cooler, and overclocks better.

    Looks like Fudo's times are over.

    Source: The Inquirer
     
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    So what you're saying is that new technology is better? What a concept!!
     
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    Nvidia certainly look to be regaining their top spot. The 9x00 series was ATI's time in charge.
     
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    Just remember that NVIDIA had to have something like this planned long ago... maybe even before the X1800XT was out. ATI's X1800XT was its best offering not so long ago... So think about what NVIDIA has up its sleve now.
     
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    yeah, and ATI has lots of hope for DX10...both companies have tricks up their sleeves, I doubt that they'll really matter. As long as our systems can play games, why bother searching for new ones? lol
     
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    Good point. And I bet both of these cards are so good that the performance won't even matter too much - by the time they stop being able to play games at their max settings there'll be a new battle starting between ATI and Nvidia with the X2x00s and 8x00s

    Edit: Just realised, the if Nvidia carry on with their current naming system does that mean we'll be seeing 9600s ect. from them in a couple of years... that would really make them sound behind ATI!
     
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    I dont just think that the card's performance is what has hurt ATI lately. Its also how they price their cards. Nvidia has done exceptionally well with this. Esp. when they priced their second highest card at just $300 as well as their huge offering.
     
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    The X1800XTPE 512 mb AT 700/1600 CLOCKS DOMINATES A 7900 GT AND A 7800 GTX 512 MB I GET 73 FPS AT DOOM3 TIMEDEMO DEMO1 ULTRA QUALITY 1600X1200 X4 AA X8 AF A 7900 GTX 512 MB AT 700 /1800 ONLY SCORES 76 FPS I CALL BS!
    http://www.overclockers.co.nz/ocnz/review.php?id=06vga00shootoutnv7600gtnv7900gt0506

    THE X1800XT IS SUPERIOR THAN A POS 7900 GT!

    LOL A STOCK 7900 GT AT 450/1350 ONLY SCORES 56 FPS IN DOOM3 HIGHQUALITY TIMEDEMO DEMO1 1600X1200 X4 AA X8 AF LOL.

    MAJORLY OVERCLOCKED ONLY 68 FPS! LOL MEANING 576/1780.

    HELL MY STOCK BFG TECH 7800 GTX 256 SCORES 60 FPS STOCK 460/1300 CLOCKS 7900 GT SUCKS


    http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=326&card2=384

    compares x1800xt vs 7900 GT.

    x1800xt>7900 gt
     
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    Why the caps? To be honest, it's not a big deal which card's better or overclocks further, we're just watching their progress. Your comments concerning overclocks and benchmarks are useful, but nothing to argue over. Just chill out a bit ;)
     
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    Sorry for the caps the Inq has just lost it now LoL stock 625 /1500 x1800xt scores 65/66 fps in doom3 timedemo demo1 ultra quality x1600x1200 x4 aa.

    Even stock a x1800xt owns 7900 GT muchless overclocked remember people 7900 GT=1.4 ns memory x1800xt=1.25 ns

    Fuad Abazovic sounds like a little kid is the inquirer ran by little kids? i mean he cant even spell SEEM RIGHT. lol

    It seams to me that Nvidia won this round, at least in sub $299 high end. Nvidia does have a problem shipping its highest end GTX cards but it might just overcome that problem. µ

    LOL no x1800xt 512 mb is cheaper and faster and more advanced features .
     
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    lol

    anywho the x1800xt 256mb does get beat by the 7900gt, however the extra memory on the 512mb version does make a difference and does allow the big brother xt to dominate the 7900gt.
    aside from that whats it matter? the 7900gt beating the x1800xt 256mb proves nothing, only that nv's new series can beat ati's old. that'd be like saying th 6800ultra beats a 9800xt well duh! if the 7900gt beat the x1900xt then that'd be news lol.
     
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    my friend has a x1800xt 256 mb sapphire performs the same as mine he just cant run quake 4 ultra quality or doom3 without hitching.
     
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    who is nvidia?
     
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    your kidding right?

    It's a rival graphics company to ati.
     
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    I mean they isnt a rival to ATI at the moment.
    they can just masturbate their mind with this kind of comparision

    anyway its an endless discussion
     
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    lol the x1800xt 256 mb or 512 mb is superior to the 7900 GT period .
     
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    Title's is misleading. "If Nvidia's card doesn’t comes faster it is very close to ATI's X1800 XT card that ATI wants to market as the competition to this card."
     
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    We all know the X1800XT is superior to the 7900GT. Once ATI used 24 pipelines, it will own even more!
     
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    yeah, if ATI could master the art of more pipelines...Nvidia would be SUNK. And I doubt that Nvidia will call things the Geforce 9500 or whatever. I think they'll come up with a new naming scheme, like "goontron" :p
     
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    this is what's odd to me, ati started the pipeline war with the 9700 series against 8 pipes vs the 4 pipe nv ti 4600 then again they continued this domination with the 9800 series nv tried to retaliate with a dual routed 4 pipe card but failed miserably. which is why i think 3dfx has taken a more active role in nv's development seeing as they went from 4 pipe cards to 16 pipe cards quite quickly AND re-released sli at the same time; which if you all don't know was an old 3dfx technology long dormant, but still fully workable.

    this left ati with it's pants down as yes they could come out with a 16 pipe card and resume their ususal habits but they found themselves against a very different nvidia. now nv has taken the pipe lead leaving ati to result to a whole new type of architecture, leaving their usual pipeline domination in favor of higher detail shader units that process new types of smoothing (adaptive aa) where ati has always fallen back on when in a bind (ti 4600 vs radeon 8500). thus we've seen the panicking ati these past few years, hopefully now we'll see the cruising ati again the same one that release the 9800 series that so dominated the market by not only beating nv in games but also in sales for all three market areas (extremist, midrange, and vanilla).
     
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    ATI have gone smart. DX10 based apps require shader processors, not pixel pipelines. while the x1900 cards dont get a huge boost right now, when it comes to DX10 variants of the card, ATI will have a huge starting lead. THats not to say Nvidia dont have something too, just that ATI are planning a year ahead already.

    and yes, the 7900GT *can* beat a x1800xt 256. it doesnt beat the x1900xtd card due soon. (apparently, itts the x1900 version of a GTO)
     
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    I've been wondering
    You think they are going to release a bios update/new drivers or shit to upgrade the x1X00's to DirectX10?
     
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    ATi for the win :laugh:
    The inquirer is so pro nVidia its not even funny.

    Plus, i so tired about ppl carrying on about which card benches faster.
    For me its all about gameplay and user experience. And to me ATi are on tops in this department. There drivers are always rock solid. U also don't need a special driver for newer games that boost performance but screws up old classic games.

    I can't agree more. Its not about pipes but about uniformed architecture. DX10 is going to rock...cause there will be only one standard (not like DX9). U either DX10 or not!
     
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