• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

x1900gt crossfire test???

Speedy

New Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2005
Messages
7 (0.00/day)
Likes
0
#1
I realize this is a silly question for those who might have the 3200 mobos but can you find out about this if you can take two x1900gt and crossfire them together. I could realy use the information. This stuff about master card and slave card is quiet anoying. I also heard about the specail non dongle configuration, I dont know much about that either. I realy want this information for my next upgrade. You can ignore my previous post about buying, but I realy want to get my brain on something useful.
 

Azn Tr14dZ

New Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
5,289 (1.22/day)
Likes
19
Processor AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory 2x512MB GeIL
Video Card(s) ATI Radeon X800XL
Storage 2x80GB Western Digital
Display(s) HP vs17
Case SuperTalent
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster
Power Supply Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt
#2
Google it...maybe that would help if you did some research too...
 

b1lk1

New Member
Joined
May 4, 2005
Messages
688 (0.15/day)
Likes
17
Location
Ontario, Canada
System Name Money pit
Processor Q2Q Q8300
Motherboard ASUS P5E3 deluxe WIFI AP@N
Cooling 120.2/Swiftech655/Apogee GT/DD Fillport & res
Memory OCZ PC3-1333MHZ 2X1GB/Kingston HYPERX PC3-1325MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire HD4830
Storage Seagate 7200.11 1TB
Display(s) Dell 2209WA
Case some crap 5 year old generic modded case
Audio Device(s) X-FI fagtality
Power Supply PC P&C 510W
Software Vista Premium 64

Azn Tr14dZ

New Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
5,289 (1.22/day)
Likes
19
Processor AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory 2x512MB GeIL
Video Card(s) ATI Radeon X800XL
Storage 2x80GB Western Digital
Display(s) HP vs17
Case SuperTalent
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster
Power Supply Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt
#4
If you get an X1900 CF Edition Card with an X1900GT, wouldn't the X1900CF Edition disable half it's memory and lower it's speeds?
 

b1lk1

New Member
Joined
May 4, 2005
Messages
688 (0.15/day)
Likes
17
Location
Ontario, Canada
System Name Money pit
Processor Q2Q Q8300
Motherboard ASUS P5E3 deluxe WIFI AP@N
Cooling 120.2/Swiftech655/Apogee GT/DD Fillport & res
Memory OCZ PC3-1333MHZ 2X1GB/Kingston HYPERX PC3-1325MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire HD4830
Storage Seagate 7200.11 1TB
Display(s) Dell 2209WA
Case some crap 5 year old generic modded case
Audio Device(s) X-FI fagtality
Power Supply PC P&C 510W
Software Vista Premium 64
#5
Yes, half memory disabled. X1800GTO and below does not need the dongle. X1800XT on up needs the dongle, PERIOD.
 

Azn Tr14dZ

New Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
5,289 (1.22/day)
Likes
19
Processor AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory 2x512MB GeIL
Video Card(s) ATI Radeon X800XL
Storage 2x80GB Western Digital
Display(s) HP vs17
Case SuperTalent
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster
Power Supply Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt
#6
What if you get 2 X1800GTO's, and flash em to XT, do you still need the dongle?
 

b1lk1

New Member
Joined
May 4, 2005
Messages
688 (0.15/day)
Likes
17
Location
Ontario, Canada
System Name Money pit
Processor Q2Q Q8300
Motherboard ASUS P5E3 deluxe WIFI AP@N
Cooling 120.2/Swiftech655/Apogee GT/DD Fillport & res
Memory OCZ PC3-1333MHZ 2X1GB/Kingston HYPERX PC3-1325MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire HD4830
Storage Seagate 7200.11 1TB
Display(s) Dell 2209WA
Case some crap 5 year old generic modded case
Audio Device(s) X-FI fagtality
Power Supply PC P&C 510W
Software Vista Premium 64
#7
Now there is a good question. My guess, and it is only a guess, is that it would because the GTO PCB is designed for dongleless Crossfire, but the drivers may see XT's and not allow it.
 

Speedy

New Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2005
Messages
7 (0.00/day)
Likes
0
#8
Yeah that is a good question. I dont know anything about the x1900gt than what I still already know because the x1800xt is like that to the x1800gto, like x1900xt is to x1900gt. So possiblity that it can do just what x1800gto does is quiet possible, but doesnt solve the issue whether it does or doesn't, more or so points out the obivious of course they will only state the individual item in its entirety with another of massive price. But some of us people are pathetically cheap, so we cant burnden with buying something of an extreme price, best thought is to have someone with a crossfire board w/ a ati x1900gt and another x1000 series component that they previously bought for a new device.

To the consideration of the x1800gto to x1800xt, I more in dire wants for the new architecture provided only on the x1900 series products. Well knowing that the x1800xt will probly require it, maby an emulation program might be able to convince software else wise. Beats the hell out of me might take alittle more research.
 

Azn Tr14dZ

New Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2006
Messages
5,289 (1.22/day)
Likes
19
Processor AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Motherboard DFI LanParty nf4 Ultra-D
Cooling Thermaltake Big Typhoon
Memory 2x512MB GeIL
Video Card(s) ATI Radeon X800XL
Storage 2x80GB Western Digital
Display(s) HP vs17
Case SuperTalent
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster
Power Supply Ultra X-Finity 500 Watt
#9
The answer is NO, you can't have 2 X1900GT's in CrossFire mode. You have to get 1 X1900GT, and 1 X1900CFE to have CrossFire. The X1900GT is like a disabled X1900XT/X, but not many people have tried unlocking it. The X1800GTO is also like a disabled X1800XL/XT, but there's an onboard CrossFire chip, therefore, you can have CrossFire without the dongle. The X1900GT doesn't have that, since it's like the X1900XT/X, it needs a master card. Damn!! Read other member's posts like b1lk1!!!!! It clearly says on his link!!!! Or do your own research!!!!
 

Speedy

New Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2005
Messages
7 (0.00/day)
Likes
0
#10
thank you, I guess in my greatest opion is that I should just buy the x1900xtx to not get anoyed with it. Keep my old x1600pro use that as a secoundary card to plug other moniters in so I can watch my videos and play games at the same time.
 
Last edited:
Joined
Feb 20, 2006
Messages
607 (0.14/day)
Likes
20
Location
Jacksonville ,Florida
System Name My Mistress :)'
Processor AMD ATHLON X2 6000+ @3.248 Mhz (F3 Windsor)
Motherboard ECS MCP61PM-AM
Cooling AIR THERMAL TAKE FANS AND SPEED FAN CONTROLED
Memory 3 GIG PC2 5300 SAMSUNG
Video Card(s) SAPPHIRE HD3650 512MB GDDR3 PCIE 904 GPU/999 MEM O/C
Storage WD 320GB /1 TB WD Essential USB 2.0 External
Display(s) ACER AL1751 LCD 1280 x 1024 17" DVI 6ms
Case GATEWAY GT SERIES ATX TOWER
Audio Device(s) REALTEK HD 7.1/LOGITECH Z-2300 2.1 THX SERIES
Power Supply COOL MASTER 500 WATTS
Software WINDOWS 7 64 bit Ultimate
Benchmark Scores I HAVENT DONE ANY YET
#11
crossfire compatibility chart

ATI CrossFire™— Compatibility Chart

Radeon X1900 Series (1) Radeon X1900 CrossFire Edition (2)
Radeon X1800 Series (1) Radeon X1800 CrossFire Edition (2)
Radeon X1600 Series (1)* Radeon X1600 Series (2)*
Radeon X1300 Series (1)* Radeon X1300 Series (2)*
Radeon X850 Series (1) Radeon X850 CrossFire Edition (2)
Radeon X800, PRO, XL, GTO, XT
or XT Platinum Edition(1) Radeon X800 CrossFire Edition (2)


*the x1600 and the x1300 series can be the exact same cards in crossfire mode doesnt matter if it is pro or not
 

Changis

New Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2006
Messages
314 (0.07/day)
Likes
0
Location
Norwegia
Processor AMD Opteron 165 (ccbbe) @ 3000 (CPU-Z ID: 125237 )
Motherboard Sapphrie A9RD580 (the White One) (with leaked ATI manta ref, board Bios)
Cooling Cpu: Corsair Nautilus 500 Watercooling Northbridge: T/T spirit II 2 80mm fans 1for HDD one for door
Memory 2x512 Kingston Hyper-x 3500 ddr434 2-2-2-5-1T
Video Card(s) Sapphire X1900XT 256MB
Storage Main: Samsung SP. 160G SataII Storage: 2x WD 320
Display(s) Fujitsu e212 / Daewoo 28" widescreen / dad's 42" HD-TV (when they are away;) or 1 of my 2 projektors
Case Custom Glow-in-the-dark painted PC Case! PM ME IF YOU KNOW ANY1 WITH THE SAME
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Mist 600W 4x12V@20A
Software Xp Pro
#12
but check this out:

"the new ATI driver which is soon to be unleashed will now enable software crossfire up to X1900GT. This means no more hassle in having to find a master card, or an external cable."

taken from hexus: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5983
 

b1lk1

New Member
Joined
May 4, 2005
Messages
688 (0.15/day)
Likes
17
Location
Ontario, Canada
System Name Money pit
Processor Q2Q Q8300
Motherboard ASUS P5E3 deluxe WIFI AP@N
Cooling 120.2/Swiftech655/Apogee GT/DD Fillport & res
Memory OCZ PC3-1333MHZ 2X1GB/Kingston HYPERX PC3-1325MHz
Video Card(s) Sapphire HD4830
Storage Seagate 7200.11 1TB
Display(s) Dell 2209WA
Case some crap 5 year old generic modded case
Audio Device(s) X-FI fagtality
Power Supply PC P&C 510W
Software Vista Premium 64
#13
but check this out:

"the new ATI driver which is soon to be unleashed will now enable software crossfire up to X1900GT. This means no more hassle in having to find a master card, or an external cable."

taken from hexus: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5983
Don't you find it funny that this article is dated June 21st and noone has reported any success at all with this? Also, you need a RD580 based motherboard for anything over X1600 Crossfire with no dongle. And this seems to be the only article claiming anything over the X1800 GTO will do it without the dongle.

FACT: X1800 XT and above get yourself a mastercard or wait for R600.
 

g12rxz

New Member
Joined
Apr 9, 2006
Messages
293 (0.07/day)
Likes
0
Location
Illinois
Processor AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ @ 2.6ghz
Motherboard ECS KA3 MVP Crossfire 3200 Chipset
Cooling None to speak of.
Memory 2048MB DDR2 Patriot Memory 4-4-4-12
Video Card(s) X1800GTO2 512MB soon I'll flash to an XT!
Storage 250GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache SATA Seagate
Display(s) 19 inch widescreen 4ms by AG Neovo
Case Gigabyte Poseidon Mid-Tower ( AWESOME CASE! )
Audio Device(s) Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Platinum -- 200 Watts to each Jamo Classic 10, powered by a Denon Class A amp
Power Supply Rosewill 600Watt w/ Active PFC and Dual +12v
Software Windows XP Professional SP2
#14
RD580 right here, anyone want to donate 2 x1900gt's to a good cause?!
 

Changis

New Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2006
Messages
314 (0.07/day)
Likes
0
Location
Norwegia
Processor AMD Opteron 165 (ccbbe) @ 3000 (CPU-Z ID: 125237 )
Motherboard Sapphrie A9RD580 (the White One) (with leaked ATI manta ref, board Bios)
Cooling Cpu: Corsair Nautilus 500 Watercooling Northbridge: T/T spirit II 2 80mm fans 1for HDD one for door
Memory 2x512 Kingston Hyper-x 3500 ddr434 2-2-2-5-1T
Video Card(s) Sapphire X1900XT 256MB
Storage Main: Samsung SP. 160G SataII Storage: 2x WD 320
Display(s) Fujitsu e212 / Daewoo 28" widescreen / dad's 42" HD-TV (when they are away;) or 1 of my 2 projektors
Case Custom Glow-in-the-dark painted PC Case! PM ME IF YOU KNOW ANY1 WITH THE SAME
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Mist 600W 4x12V@20A
Software Xp Pro
#15
well i think the driver will come.
because who will buy a mastercard thats 150$ more expensive than the XT (in norway atleast) only to have it disable 256mb of ram, 4 pipelines and a little underclock, just to meet the specifications of the GT,
Also, if the X1900GT's get a cable-free/software crossfire driver I think alot more GT's would be sold as 2gt's would cost the same or less than the mastercard alone.

Besides, i thought that you only needed 2 pci-e 16X slots, not 16x crossfire (not sure on this one)
 

Changis

New Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2006
Messages
314 (0.07/day)
Likes
0
Location
Norwegia
Processor AMD Opteron 165 (ccbbe) @ 3000 (CPU-Z ID: 125237 )
Motherboard Sapphrie A9RD580 (the White One) (with leaked ATI manta ref, board Bios)
Cooling Cpu: Corsair Nautilus 500 Watercooling Northbridge: T/T spirit II 2 80mm fans 1for HDD one for door
Memory 2x512 Kingston Hyper-x 3500 ddr434 2-2-2-5-1T
Video Card(s) Sapphire X1900XT 256MB
Storage Main: Samsung SP. 160G SataII Storage: 2x WD 320
Display(s) Fujitsu e212 / Daewoo 28" widescreen / dad's 42" HD-TV (when they are away;) or 1 of my 2 projektors
Case Custom Glow-in-the-dark painted PC Case! PM ME IF YOU KNOW ANY1 WITH THE SAME
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Mist 600W 4x12V@20A
Software Xp Pro
#16
turns out the driver is already here (atleast in beta form) check my thread: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=15779

"quote from ati website:

737-22098: Radeon X1800GTO and Radeon X1900GT CrossFire Support

The information in this article applies to the following configuration(s):

* Radeon X1800GTO
* Radeon X1900GT
* Catalyst 6.4 Beta Display Driver
* Windows XP Professional
* Windows XP Home Edition

To enable CrossFire mode with two Radeon X1800GTO or two Radeon X1900GT graphic cards, you will need to download and install Catalyst 6.4 Beta.

This driver is provided as is and specifically for the above mentioned configuration.
 

Speedy

New Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2005
Messages
7 (0.00/day)
Likes
0
#17
Well now thats interesting considering what I asked a while back on. Thanks for the update.
 

Changis

New Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2006
Messages
314 (0.07/day)
Likes
0
Location
Norwegia
Processor AMD Opteron 165 (ccbbe) @ 3000 (CPU-Z ID: 125237 )
Motherboard Sapphrie A9RD580 (the White One) (with leaked ATI manta ref, board Bios)
Cooling Cpu: Corsair Nautilus 500 Watercooling Northbridge: T/T spirit II 2 80mm fans 1for HDD one for door
Memory 2x512 Kingston Hyper-x 3500 ddr434 2-2-2-5-1T
Video Card(s) Sapphire X1900XT 256MB
Storage Main: Samsung SP. 160G SataII Storage: 2x WD 320
Display(s) Fujitsu e212 / Daewoo 28" widescreen / dad's 42" HD-TV (when they are away;) or 1 of my 2 projektors
Case Custom Glow-in-the-dark painted PC Case! PM ME IF YOU KNOW ANY1 WITH THE SAME
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Mist 600W 4x12V@20A
Software Xp Pro
#18
if you find out that this works, please post results
(if its good \ works I'll buy a second GT ;)
 

Speedy

New Member
Joined
Nov 20, 2005
Messages
7 (0.00/day)
Likes
0
#19
I'm not jumping to buy anything till my birthday anyways. By that time hopefully many of the parts on my dream machine will reduce thier prices. Many of the dream parts have already dropped. I going to be extremely happy if I can build it 300$ to 400$ less then the expected by if so I'll buy more ram and stuff for the machine. Oct 27 is when I'm going to really start looking some more, but I'll keep my eye out. I'm thinking x1900xt might try some other parts aswell. I will never go toward a NVIDIA because they suck just to beat the x1900xtx they had to dual core a video card, Imagine AMD's technology in the use of ATI.
 

Changis

New Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2006
Messages
314 (0.07/day)
Likes
0
Location
Norwegia
Processor AMD Opteron 165 (ccbbe) @ 3000 (CPU-Z ID: 125237 )
Motherboard Sapphrie A9RD580 (the White One) (with leaked ATI manta ref, board Bios)
Cooling Cpu: Corsair Nautilus 500 Watercooling Northbridge: T/T spirit II 2 80mm fans 1for HDD one for door
Memory 2x512 Kingston Hyper-x 3500 ddr434 2-2-2-5-1T
Video Card(s) Sapphire X1900XT 256MB
Storage Main: Samsung SP. 160G SataII Storage: 2x WD 320
Display(s) Fujitsu e212 / Daewoo 28" widescreen / dad's 42" HD-TV (when they are away;) or 1 of my 2 projektors
Case Custom Glow-in-the-dark painted PC Case! PM ME IF YOU KNOW ANY1 WITH THE SAME
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Mist 600W 4x12V@20A
Software Xp Pro
#20
well my second GT is on its way :p the xtx is prob. not worth buying if you're going to crossfire