X800 fuses data for unlocking

[Straw]

AGP Palit X800 GTO

Good evening. I am not experienced in editing BIOS-images. A few months ago I needed to flash AGP Sapphire X800 GTO (to 16pp). I succeeded then (I used Infrared's BIOS file). But now I want to flash another videocard (AGP Palit X800 GTO 256MB 400MHz/980MHz). Can anybody help me to edit my original BIOS file? (to 16pp). Of course if R420 can be modified .

 

[Straw]

AGP Palit X800 GTO

Here is my screenshot from ATI Tool.

 

[Straw]

AGP Palit X800 GTO

On my GPU I've read this:
"ATI Radeon X850 215RAFCGA11FG GH4820.1 0622AAP AGP Accelerated graphic port"

 

[SqueezeR]

Messed-up PowerColor BIOS

Help please
Hi guys, i have a PowerColor X800 GTO (non VIVO) with R430 gpu and 256MB Hynix 2.5 DDR3 memory. This one is not moddable (because of the CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFF9E) and because of the lazy GPU and memory limits (500MHz max clock according to Hynix datasheets) it is poorly OCable. So why did i buy it you're probably asking... ehehehe i had to save some money for an extra GB of ram
Anyway, after going through the whole lot of posts here i wanted to try and flash the card with an x800xl bios, and so i did. I used flashrom (the modded one), saved the original bios and then flashed the PowerColor x800xl pci-e 256MB bios i found in the ati bios collection.
Guess what... not only it didn't work, but the floppy decided to abandon me after the first reboot so i lost the original bios and found myself with a card that freezes at any attempt of running a 3d application, NO MATTER what bios, drivers or memory settings i try
It seems that this card needs its own bios to work properly so this is my humble request: i don't care about "enhanced performance", all i ask for is the original bios to get the card work again.
I have no idea if the one with Hynix memory is a best seller like the Sapphire/Samsung but who knows... a little luck after all that s**t would be a nice christmas present : )
Sorry for the (very) long post and thanks in advance.
Oh, i quite forgot... from now on i will ALWAYS have a small FAT32 partition for saving and loading BIOSes and apps from the dos prompt, trust me!

 

[Straw]

AGP Palit X800 GTO

It's front/back pictures of my videocard.

 

[romulow]

Hi, just joined the forums =)
I bought a Sapphire X800GT 256MB AGP, that's what ATITool tells:
Device ID 4A4A
Chipname R420
Host Interface AGP
Catalyst Version XXX
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Active Pipelines 8
Default GPU Clock 475.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF36FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFE9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x25650


Can I mod it to 12/16 pipes??

 

[dolf]

Hi, just joined the forums =)
I bought a Sapphire X800GT 256MB AGP, that's what ATITool tells:
Device ID 4A4A
Chipname R420
Host Interface AGP
Catalyst Version XXX
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Active Pipelines 8
Default GPU Clock 475.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xEFF36FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFE9D
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x22
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x25650


Can I mod it to 12/16 pipes??

Unfortunately no more pipes but with R420 probably 540-580MHz on the core are possible .

 

[romulow]

Another question, may I change the memory timings? Increase for better overclockin or lowering for better fps, or is it really dangerous?

 

[dolf]

Another question, may I change the memory timings? Increase for better overclockin or lowering for better fps, or is it really dangerous?

Start with TRP timing (increase the value from 5 to 6 or 7) and test.

 

[romulow]

Thx!
So it's valid to raise the TRP to get higher mem clocks?
And how about the other timing values, should I raise another? I tried 4 in TRP and got many artfacts, so I assume it's not good to lower it, and increasing it to 7 I didn't loss any noticeable fps

 

[dolf]

Thx!
So it's valid to raise the TRP to get higher mem clocks?
And how about the other timing values, should I raise another? I tried 4 in TRP and got many artfacts, so I assume it's not good to lower it, and increasing it to 7 I didn't loss any noticeable fps

You can change all the timings but you need lot of time. Increasing TRP (not decreasing) can give you up to 10% overclock of the momory without loosing FPS.

 

[Frogger]

Another question, may I change the memory timings? Increase for better overclockin or lowering for better fps, or is it really dangerous?

these timeings work on the v8oo cards with 1.6/2.0 samsung mem chips ...compare them to what atitool shows you ...and try some ajustments

 

[Balzer]

PSU is a Antec SmartPower 500W
Is there something different on nature test of 3DMark2001SE?
I'll try some newer games.
Thanks man.

It was overtemperature, I replaced the default cooler by a Zalman VF700-Cu and now everything is ok.

 

[xterm]

useful thread...
yesterday i got an xpertvision x800 gto agp card 400/490,r420 core.
This is copied from ati tool 0.26 :

Device ID 4A49
Chipname R420
Host Interface AGP
Catalyst Version 6.12
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

So can you tell me...

1. Is is mutable from 12 to 16 pipes?
2. if it is, can i revert it to 12 pipes once modded (if there are defective pipes) ?

btw, from what i read here, i'm almost sure it s not modable because it s a non vivo r420. maybe i should try flashing it and see what happens? does that involve any risk? thank you in advance.

 

[dolf]

useful thread...
yesterday i got an xpertvision x800 gto agp card 400/490,r420 core.
This is copied from ati tool 0.26 :

Device ID 4A49
Chipname R420
Host Interface AGP
Catalyst Version 6.12
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Type DDR3
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock 490.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x61
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

So can you tell me...

1. Is is mutable from 12 to 16 pipes?
2. if it is, can i revert it to 12 pipes once modded (if there are defective pipes) ?

btw, from what i read here, i'm almost sure it s not modable because it s a non vivo r420. maybe i should try flashing it and see what happens? does that involve any risk? thank you in advance.

It is moddable to 16 pipes . I need your original BIOS and pictures of the card (Front and back). It seems with R481 core like the case above (Straw) and probably the pictures are also the same (see post #2757).

 

[xterm]

hey dolf, sry for the delay in my response. I saw straw's card and as you said it looks very simmilar to mine (but not the same model imo, the disposition of memories and stuff is different). Actually don't have a digital camera working( except mobile phone but tried and the quality sucked) so i took a few notes for you, hope this is enough:

-model : x800 gto agp8x 256mb ddr3 tv-out dvi
-p/n: AA/X800G+TD22+PM9B85

-memos: SAMSUNG 634
K4J553230G-BC14
-this is on the back of the card: APCB M6 94V-0
0625

- extra info taken from control panel:
Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset RADEON X800 PRO/GTO
Device ID 4A49
Vendor 1002
Subsystem ID 4000
Subsystem Vendor ID 0000
Bus Type AGP
Current Bus Setting AGP 8X
BIOS Version 009.008.001.004
BIOS Part Number R420GTO-490-400-A5P
BIOS Date 2006/07/10
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Type DDR3
Core Clock in MHz 398 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 493 MHz
Primary Display Yes

And before i forget it here is my original card bios.

 

[dolf]

hey dolf, sry for the delay in my response. I saw straw's card and as you said it looks very simmilar to mine (but not the same model imo, the disposition of memories and stuff is different). Actually don't have a digital camera working( except mobile phone but tried and the quality sucked) so i took a few notes for you, hope this is enough:

-model : x800 gto agp8x 256mb ddr3 tv-out dvi
-p/n: AA/X800G+TD22+PM9B85

-memos: SAMSUNG 634
K4J553230G-BC14
-this is on the back of the card: APCB M6 94V-0
0625

- extra info taken from control panel:
Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset RADEON X800 PRO/GTO
Device ID 4A49
Vendor 1002
Subsystem ID 4000
Subsystem Vendor ID 0000
Bus Type AGP
Current Bus Setting AGP 8X
BIOS Version 009.008.001.004
BIOS Part Number R420GTO-490-400-A5P
BIOS Date 2006/07/10
Memory Size 256 MB
Memory Type DDR3
Core Clock in MHz 398 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 493 MHz
Primary Display Yes

And before i forget it here is my original card bios.

That is very interesting card. With new and faster 700MHz memory and R481. Straw have some problems unlocking his card but we are working over.

Try to flash it with the attached BIOS using atiflash in DOS mode.

atiflash -f -p -newbios xpert16.bin

After the flashing your CONFIG_ROM_FUSES should be changed to 0x60 (from 0x61). Only then you can see the 16 pipes in ATITool. Please let me know what will haapen after the flash (again the fuse values).

That card seems to have a lot of overclock room but for that later on.

 

[xterm]

ok i'm going to flash it now. Of course i'll give you feedback after doing it!
Btw and corcerning the memory mhz, you are referring to memory frequency right? i bought it from here(the link wasn't working properly, just go to www.alternate.es and then type Xpertvision/Palit Radeon X800 on their search utility, if you want to see it---it is in spanish) and effectively it says memory is 700 mhz ( the usual is 980?) but programs like atitool say the memory freq is normal (490). So i'm confused, but then again i'm a newbie.

 

[xterm]

succeed! wow sir, you're good

i went to dos and typed atiflash -f -p -newbios xpert16.bin but i got the message "Format: atiflash -p <adapter num><filename>"
Then i tried atiflash -p 0 xpert16.bin, that seemed to work but when i restarted pipes still were 12 and nothing had changed.
So i went to dos again and tried the command you had given me this way: atiflash -f -newbios -p 0 xpert16.bin, restarted, and woot, here is the result:

 

[dolf]

Now with 16 pipes test with ATITool for max. core memory and post the values. R481 should reach 540-570MHz (but only if the voltage is 1.4V like on X850XT PE). The memory is 1.4ns and should reach 650-700MHz. After you find the max. stable core/memory I can prepare for you overclocked BIOS with the "correct" speeds and you will have them permanently .

 

[noneed4me2]

Xterm where did you get that card?

 

[xterm]

my PSu died today while i was running 3Dmark05. Just at the end of the test i noticed a burning smell, i let it continue because it was almost done, and then "bang", dead psu. Fortunately everything is OK (except the psu of course). I think it happened because the psu is a weak 300W and the new card demands more energy...tomorrow i'm getting a 400W.

By the way dolf, i can't get even close to those values, especially for memory. Don't know if it is PSU related,but i don't think so. The problem is that the heat sink is not in contact with memories i guess, what makes the memory chips become quickly overheated when i run atitool.At 540(mem) artifacts started appearing. No major problems with core. If i set it to 525-525, it is stable but memories are still so hot. CPU temp is 50 idle, 58 full. The card does not have a sensor to control the temperature so no way to know whether the memories overclock is too dangerous or not.

Concerning to testing it i ve run 3dmark05 (system specs: xp2600 running at 2.1 ghz, 1 ghz ram, gto 525-500,3dmark default settings) and i got a score of 5500 which i m very satisfied with.
525-500--> 5450
525-525 ---> 5558

I'll keep testing tomorrow when i get the new psu.

noneed4me2: i got it at alternate. The url is 2 posts down.

 

[GrenDup]

Hello,

Wow Dolf it seems like you are the guru of x800s :-D

Can you do something for me?

Sapphire Radeon x800gto 256mb pciexpress

This is copied from ati tool 0.24 : (0.26 doesn'nt work properly :-( )

Catalyst Version 5.5+
Device ID 5D4F
Chipname R480
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock 495.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x12B84

Is it possible to unlock the remaining 4 pipelines??? I don't think so but...

Thank you!

 

[dolf]

Hello,

Wow Dolf it seems like you are the guru of x800s :-D

Can you do something for me?

Sapphire Radeon x800gto 256mb pciexpress

This is copied from ati tool 0.24 : (0.26 doesn'nt work properly :-( )

Catalyst Version 5.5+
Device ID 5D4F
Chipname R480
Memory Size 256MB
Memory Bus Width 256 Bit
Active Pipelines 12
Default GPU Clock 400.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock 495.00 Mhz
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x12B84

Is it possible to unlock the remaining 4 pipelines??? I don't think so but...

Thank you!

Unfortunately nothing can be done with that core in meaning pipe unlocking. Sorry for that. You can probably overclock it hard?

 

[dolf]

my PSu died today while i was running 3Dmark05. Just at the end of the test i noticed a burning smell, i let it continue because it was almost done, and then "bang", dead psu. Fortunately everything is OK (except the psu of course). I think it happened because the psu is a weak 300W and the new card demands more energy...tomorrow i'm getting a 400W.

By the way dolf, i can't get even close to those values, especially for memory. Don't know if it is PSU related,but i don't think so. The problem is that the heat sink is not in contact with memories i guess, what makes the memory chips become quickly overheated when i run atitool.At 540(mem) artifacts started appearing. No major problems with core. If i set it to 525-525, it is stable but memories are still so hot. CPU temp is 50 idle, 58 full. The card does not have a sensor to control the temperature so no way to know whether the memories overclock is too dangerous or not.

Concerning to testing it i ve run 3dmark05 (system specs: xp2600 running at 2.1 ghz, 1 ghz ram, gto 525-500,3dmark default settings) and i got a score of 5500 which i m very satisfied with.
525-500--> 5450
525-525 ---> 5558

I'll keep testing tomorrow when i get the new psu.

noneed4me2: i got it at alternate. The url is 2 posts down.

For sure with 16 pipes and 500+ MHz on the core that card requires app. 65-75W and stronger PSU. Buy a quality one 400W PSU. If you can check the core voltage and the memory voltage (because it is possible to discover that the core runs with 1.2 or 1.3V and the memory has lower Vdd and Vddq than recommended). Also the card has weak on board core power supply (missing power mosfets which can be added ). For sure the main problem for the memory overclock is the heat and you have to improve your cooling if you want X850XT PE speeds and more because that card has better memory (200MHz faster than the 1.6ns on the X850XT PE).