x850pro AGP 16p bios, no overclock.

[TurboGLH]

this is my screen of ati tool ... i see an "e" on the final i think its impossible to unlock the full 16 pipes

Sorry dude, but that card won't unlock to 16p. Where you see 7 and E, those both need to be F's in order for the card to be unlockable. I would flash back to the x850pro bios as the xt pe won't unlock the pipes, and most likely disabled the fan (the fan control is different on the pro and the xt/xt pe, when you flash with one of those bios the fan stops working). Flash back to an 850pro and overclock manualy.

 

[Mittenz]

Hey guys . i have my x850 pro oced to 580 core 640 memory. Its only got 12 pipes and im geting 6080 on 3dmark 05 is it worth the risk to try and unlock the pipes? Also what do i do if i need to rma it ?

My question is if my card can unlock is it safe it mine can be unlocked? This would be my first time doing this and i dont want to break a card trying it. Last question how can i rma it to get a cooler changed or somthing? if i used the old bio's how do i bring it back to 12pp?

Defult core 500.00 mhz Currect 580.00mhz
Default mem 500.00 mhz Current 640.00mhz

3d mark with 12pp 6080
3d mark with 16pp ?????

Heres the readings on mu card from the ati tool
Config_Die_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
Config_Subtrate_Fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
Config_Rom_Fuses 0x861


Can i make this baby pull 7000+ on 3d mark aka unlock my 4 pipes?
Also if i unlock them then... it would be a x850 xt pe so i should even be able to pull 8000 mabye right ?

 

[noneed4me2]

your fuses look good for modding as far as risk everything with modding is a risk, but good luck.

 

[internal]

Ya man yours is unlockable.

I think you'd be around the 6500 range if you did unlock them.

 

[dolf]

Hey guys . i have my x850 pro oced to 580 core 640 memory. Its only got 12 pipes and im geting 6080 on 3dmark 05 is it worth the risk to try and unlock the pipes? Also what do i do if i need to rma it ?

My question is if my card can unlock is it safe it mine can be unlocked? This would be my first time doing this and i dont want to break a card trying it. Last question how can i rma it to get a cooler changed or somthing? if i used the old bio's how do i bring it back to 12pp?

Defult core 500.00 mhz Currect 580.00mhz
Default mem 500.00 mhz Current 640.00mhz

3d mark with 12pp 6080
3d mark with 16pp ?????

Heres the readings on mu card from the ati tool
Config_Die_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
Config_Subtrate_Fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
Config_Rom_Fuses 0x861


Can i make this baby pull 7000+ on 3d mark aka unlock my 4 pipes?
Also if i unlock them then... it would be a x850 xt pe so i should even be able to pull 8000 mabye right ?

You should do the mod. You are lucky to have 16 pipe card and to leave it with only 12 will be "offence" . You can always return to the original situation just save your original BIOS using ATITool.

Before to start read that: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/100

Don't forget to use modified flashrom (Your Config_Rom_Fuses = 0x861 should be changed to 0x860 after flashing of the XT BIOS or 16 pipe PRO BIOS).

I will also attach one XT PE BIOS with fan control (not present on the other XT BIOSes) and hope that it will work for you. After flashing see whether the fan is working.

Other XT BIOSes you can find here: http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/ but be careful to don't mess the AGP with PCIX versions .

After flashing is better to repeat the max. core/memory test with ATITool. Probably the results will be lower but the number of the pipes will be higher .

Soccess

 

[dolf]

...i bought a connect 3d x850pro vivo 256 mb ddr 3 (serial S/N : 180 540)
and i flash the bios to a xt pe but .. im surprise because the pipelines number is the same 12 pipelines only... helpeme please lololol now ! i have the same cllock that the real xt pe have and the same bios ... but i want to have the same pipelines but now i think its impossible .. my sadness im mad about the performance of my x850pro ... i cant play at great frames per second on F1 chalenge 99-2002(directx8) and cs source at 1248x960 4x AA and 8x AF..... my marks in 3dmarks 2003 are 11600 and for 2005 are 4900... i want my 16 pipes (( please help my soul to find peace !!!!

You need help - I have a medicine for your pain. Return or sale your C3D X850PRO VIVO AGP card. Give another try to find unlockable PRO . My recommendation will be DON'T go for Connect3D (it is useless) look for Built By ATI or MSI X850PRO VIVO AGP. I am almost 100% sure that with these brands you will have 16 pipes unlocked . Also the last Sapphire X850PRO's seems to be unlockable too but I am not sure in that.

Good luck

 

[$ilent\\'@rrior]

Just like to say thanks to this forum for a great tutorial on how to unlock the extra pipelines on anX850 Pro AGP card.

Well I used the guide from this forum to modify my Connect3D X850Pro.
Used an X850Pro BIOS with 16 pipes enabled and it flashed without any problems.
Have been running it at XT speeds since with no problems at all.


http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1749/atitool16pa.png

 

[SoLi]

best flash utility?

hi,
what's the best flash utility,
( and maybe why?)
or maybe the easiest?
to do x850_12 --» x850_16
I will use a floppy
I read some of the howto's
but still it's not so clear
I will overclock manuelly with atitool ( when needed)
I have an unlockable built by ati x850pro vivo mem 1.6
s/n:180533
thanks
-10 celsius today, not too bad

 

[Kryten]

hi all im new to the site, but its been a moutain of information so i decided to register..

i have a couple questions reguarding my ATI X850 Pro AGP card.

i have tried to reflash the bios to enable all 16 pipes but so far it wont do it.
I have tried both atiflash and flashrom from a bootable floppy and it still says 12 pipes active..
my command line is flashrom -f -p 0 (filename.bin) it does its thing and says it reflashed the bios and atitool still says 12 active pipes..

attached are my fuses and from what i can tell i should be able to get all 16 pipes active.

lwhat am i doing wrong?

thanks for the help.

 

[TurboGLH]

hi all im new to the site, but its been a moutain of information so i decided to register..

i have a couple questions reguarding my ATI X850 Pro AGP card.

i have tried to reflash the bios to enable all 16 pipes but so far it wont do it.
I have tried both atiflash and flashrom from a bootable floppy and it still says 12 pipes active..
my command line is flashrom -f -p 0 (filename.bin) it does its thing and says it reflashed the bios and atitool still says 12 active pipes..

attached are my fuses and from what i can tell i should be able to get all 16 pipes active.

lwhat am i doing wrong?

thanks for the help.

Well, you seem to be doing everything right and your fuses look good. So why don't you post the bios your using and let us take a look at it to see if it's 16p or not, at the same time why don't you post a dump of your stock bios and if need be I'll mod it real quick.

 

[Kryten]

Well, you seem to be doing everything right and your fuses look good. So why don't you post the bios your using and let us take a look at it to see if it's 16p or not, at the same time why don't you post a dump of your stock bios and if need be I'll mod it real quick.

here you go i was reading something about the bios preserving R42x settings i remember it saying that when i tried to reflash mine... should i add the -newbios line to my flash proceedure?

 

[Kryten]

I figured it out it was infact preserving the old bios settings I tried adding the "-newbios" tag using atiflash. and i have 16 pipelines now!!

 

[mrleaf]

here is my bios

its ati x850 pro i dunno if its vivo or if i can have 16 pipes.
also what the setting should be in ati tool?
i dont know if it will post my bios i use rar and it dosent seem to work so i put it on word i dont know if it will be correct let me know thanks

 

[TurboGLH]

its ati x850 pro i dunno if its vivo or if i can have 16 pipes.
also what the setting should be in ati tool?
i dont know if it will post my bios i use rar and it dosent seem to work so i put it on word i dont know if it will be correct let me know thanks

You have to pack it as a zip instead of a rar. Also please take a screenshot from ati tool showing your fuse config so we can verify that the card can be modded before you try to flash.

 

[mrleaf]

ok i screen shot seems small i put the clock speed and core to 500 cause i had a problem booting and i pulled the card out slighty and put it back in and it booted (scarry to me) is that default of my card?

 

[mrleaf]

here is the screen shot if you goto the button that says close program open the pic for editing it will be bigger to see sorry i couldent figure it out.

 

[TurboGLH]

here is the screen shot if you goto the button that says close program open the pic for editing it will be bigger to see sorry i couldent figure it out.

Sorry but you can't mod your card. The fuse config shows that it's hard locked.

 

[mrleaf]

what should the settng safely be at? is 500 500 the cards setting or ati tool default setting?
thanks

 

[Kryten]

what should the settng safely be at? is 500 500 the cards setting or ati tool default setting?
thanks

yep thats the cards defualt setting, there isnt any set lvl since each core is different. id say first upgrade your cooling on the vid card if you plan to o/c. then use atitool to find the max core and memory speeds. if you decide to do it manually take your time and dont forget to scan for artifacts. once you start getting some back off a little.

before i unlocked my card i couldnt get above 510/515 with out it giving me artifacts. after i unlocked it im running at XT speeds (520/540) now with out any issues. im running the 16p x850 pro vivo bios and just o/c mine to XT speeds on 3d aps automatically with atitool.

 

[evil bill]

hi all - first post to forums, please be gentle

I just replaced my 9600 PRO 256MB with a 3D Connect X850 PRO AGP VIVO (crikey, night and day )

3DMark05 with 9600 - 1670
3DMark05 with X850 - 5263

From what I have read it would appear I am not going to be able to open it up to 16 Pipeline, but I just wanted to be sure - can someomne please confirm

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0X227A4

To be honest, Im really happy with the card in any case, had it clocked to 560/580 Core/Memory with no issues and got a 3DMark05 score of 5753 which cant be bad

 

[TurboGLH]

hi all - first post to forums, please be gentle

I just replaced my 9600 PRO 256MB with a 3D Connect X850 PRO AGP VIVO (crikey, night and day )

3DMark05 with 9600 - 1670
3DMark05 with X850 - 5263

From what I have read it would appear I am not going to be able to open it up to 16 Pipeline, but I just wanted to be sure - can someomne please confirm

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x861
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0X227A4

To be honest, Im really happy with the card in any case, had it clocked to 560/580 Core/Memory with no issues and got a 3DMark05 score of 5753 which cant be bad

Your correct, it won't unlock. Still a good o/c and a decent 05 score for a 12p card.

 

[weskes]

Well, back again.

Heya, I've asked you a while ago if you could mod my bios and so you did.
I have a 3dconnect 850pro ViVo, but now I have a chance to exchange it with the
same card from HIS. Both cards hav ASIC: R481. Does this tell me that I still won't be able to unlock the pipes and what is the better card of two? I'm very thankful for the job you're doing here!!!

 

[TurboGLH]

Heya, I've asked you a while ago if you could mod my bios and so you did.
I have a 3dconnect 850pro ViVo, but now I have a chance to exchange it with the
same card from HIS. Both cards hav ASIC: R481. Does this tell me that I still won't be able to unlock the pipes and what is the better card of two? I'm very thankful for the job you're doing here!!!

The only way to know if the card will unlock is to run ati tool and check the fuse config.

Example - See the 7 and the E? Those both need to show as F's for the card to be unlockable.

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFF7FFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9E

I guess you'll either have to run ati tool on the other card or take your chances.

 

[jasonisom]

need a help real bad

hey i would like to learn how to flash from 12 to 16 and i have floppy system so can u tell me how it work ? i have tried put atiflash in floppy then restart computer and show up say error cant read or remove the floppy. can u help me by step to step so i will be able to do it fast =)

 

[darkan9el]

Hi I have a Connect3D x850 Pro VIVO, just bought a Zalman VF70-CU cooler, and wondered if I could firmware upgrade the card I've read most of this post and wondered how you actually get the ATI Tools fuse config info?

My options are:

• Upgrade to XTPE and leave at stock settings for a while
• Upgrade to the XT firmware and overclock it
• Use a modded firmware to get 16 pipes and overclock
• Go absolutely crazy and upgrade to XTPE and OverClock the mutz nutz off it lol!

would I see much difference between an 16 pipe unlock bios and a XTPE bios?

best regards Lee