Xeon Owners Club

[MrGRiMv25]

God knows what causes that unless sapphire were told under strict conditions by amd only to sell it on uefi only bios how that suppose to sell well if they didnt supports for non uefi, csm, and legecy bios no wonder amd didnt think of that in loss of translation is my guess.

I did see a good few amd sapphire nitro+ rx 580 what confusing is there 4gb and 8gb verisons along with oc model if i had the money right now i would have picked up one and test the theory on my computer

Yeah it's a weird one, that's what made me panic but since my HP board surprisingly supported CSM it wasn't an issue at all. I added a post to reddit on the thread where people couldn't get it working with screens shots and a quick clip of it posting and going in to bios for proof etc just to annoy/them a bit, was feeling a bit "wind-up-merchanty" that day.

Side-note:
I got the E5-1660 v2 recently off my friend that was selling it, I feigned disinterest for a couple a weeks and he dropped the price to £80 with a 4GB stick of 1600mt/s RAM to get rid of it haha, I can run quad-channel now once I get a few more things to get it up and running. Need an LGA 2011 mount for my CPU cooler, an M.2 drive and a few other things but hope to have it running within a month or two, maybe 3 at most. The Huanang mobo or whatever its called from eBay and Ali has been confirmed to boot NVME drives so I'll use one of those instead of an extra costly, higher end LGA 2011 board without NVME support. Just waiting on him to break on his Corsair AX800 and drop the price, might as well hussle it if I can.

I'll keep the W3680 system around for a spare PC lanned up so I can play multiplayer with people at my house without any split screen crap.

Really wish I stumbled on the Xeons quite a few years back when I bought an FX6300, which wasn't bad considering games were starting to get multi-threaded and I had USB3 and a few nice modern features on the 990 chipset but would have had a much nicer time with a Sandy Bridge Xeon of the same time period.

 

[Edwired]

Just wondering is the x5650 better than e5450 as i just seen one for sale with asus rampage two extreme with asus supremefx sound card and xeon x5650 no ram either

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Just wondering is the x5650 better than e5450 as i just seen one for sale with asus rampage two extreme with asus supremefx sound card and xeon x5650 no ram either

Sure it is way better....6 Vs 4 core + HT and they are GREAT OC on good boards but they are also different platforms....e5450 is socket 771 while x5650 is for socket 1366....

 

[Auer]

My 1620-0 is starting to show its age lately, in games of course. Still a stellar photoshop/lightroom CPU.

I'm contemplating a simple i5-9400f microATX build, I have a RTX2070 and a 1080p and a 4k monitor.
Having a hard time justifying a modern Xeon build for my purposes.

This thing has been nothing but wonderful. And if I didnt play but older games I would not even contemplate an upgrade.

 

[Edwired]

I see everyone have different needs for older cpu/motherboard i couldnt the see the reason for the latest and greatest as for over 8 cores or more is aiming for heavy work load such as mutli media anything below 8 core is usually suited for gaming is my guess

 

[Auer]

I see everyone have different needs for older cpu/motherboard i couldnt the see the reason for the latest and greatest as for over 8 cores or more is aiming for heavy work load such as mutli media anything below 8 core is usually suited for gaming is my guess

I really don't need a ton of cores/threads, just some more speed at this stage. 6/6 should last me for a while @4ghz+ speeds.

 

[Edwired]

Was thinking about that as well at the moment im just beating the snots out of the e5450 on the asus p5q deluxe currently trying to squit the bugs out of the ram timing it could run fine one day and not the next

 

[MrGRiMv25]

My 1620-0 is starting to show its age lately, in games of course. Still a stellar photoshop/lightroom CPU.

I'm contemplating a simple i5-9400f microATX build, I have a RTX2070 and a 1080p and a 4k monitor.
Having a hard time justifying a modern Xeon build for my purposes.

This thing has been nothing but wonderful. And if I didnt play but older games I would not even contemplate an upgrade.

I'd at least step up to the 9600k if you're going that way, the F is a fair bit slower and the 1% lows are worse by a considerable amount, I watched a review comparing the 3600X, 9600K and 9600F the other day and the F was getting crucified. I don't know how much more the K is than the F but it's worth it if it isn't too much extra. Plus there's the overclocking option so you can extend its useful life as time goes on.

Also, the base clock on the K is much higher than the F so general responsiveness should be better.

 

[Edwired]

Maybe the 9600f is for poor people lol

 

[MrGRiMv25]

Maybe the 9600f is for poor people lol

I haven't checked the prices but I think he mentioned something like around $150 in the video, don't know how much the K is though haha.

 

[Edwired]

Theres nothing on 9600f on the net as for 9600k cheapest i seen on ebay it about €260 without postage

 

[Auer]

 

[Edwired]

Oh i didnt see that lol

 

[MrGRiMv25]

That's quite a big difference in cost, it's unfortunate the F doesn't overclock but it should still perform somewhere in the ballpark of the K - if you can force the all core turbo with MCE if the mobo supports it, it would be only 10-15% slower then.

Edit: Since the F lacks integrated graphics, wouldn't it be a bonus to get the standard 9400 so you have that to fall back on if your GPU causes issues at any point? I checked Newegg US and it's only about $20-30 more.

 

[Auer]

That's quite a big difference in cost, it's unfortunate the F doesn't overclock but it should still perform somewhere in the ballpark of the K - if you can force the all core turbo with MCE if the mobo supports it, it would be only 10-15% slower then.

Edit: Since the F lacks integrated graphics, wouldn't it be a bonus to get the standard 9400 so you have that to fall back on if your GPU causes issues at any point? I checked Newegg US and it's only about $20-30 more.

I thought about the 9400 and the IGPU option but like many others here I have a drawer full of older gpu's.....

 

[Zyll Goliat]

 

[MrGRiMv25]

Holding up surprisingly well, mostly in the minimum/percentile figures which is where it counts the most. The SNB/HSW Xeons would be the next choice as they'd be much closer in performance to the newer gen, the 3600x is king in multithreaded stuff but the 9400 is hot on its heels in most games and exceeds in a few; that's the last piece AMD needs to really optimize in their Zen 2 architecture.

 

[Auer]

Nice. Heading strongly in to the 9400F direction. When I get some downtime I'll build a MiniITX based on that.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Well I get some good deal for a Ryzen 1700 + 16gb ddr4,now I am searching for some decent mobo and then I will compare that with my old 6 core "mule" and see if I going to keep it or flip it.....

 

[Samiam66]

Hi all

I know this not Xeon related
but this new build has 5 siblings that are all Xeon equiped

( kinda like a red haired step child )

I am getting closer to having it complete

Just need to buy 3700x cpu & 32gigs of 3200 memory ( 2 ) 16gig sticks to start with

Room for days with Rosewell Rise case ..can accept two power suppyls
1 above full atx motherboard
1 below " " "

I can put a 360 radiator upfront without loosing optical drive and hot swapping bay
Radeon RX580 is attached to Mb via riser cable

Sam

 

[Edwired]

How much is that rosewell rise case looks mad never seen one that big before it nearly 2 times taller than my pc case is nzxt phantom 530. Was thinking of changing it some day as had an eye on aerostrike i think not sure if that it is correct name for it as it one of those open air case.

Just found it here https://www.aerocool.us/strikex/strikex_air.html

everywhere i checked it all either sold out or not stocking anymore damn im disappointed

 

[lexluthermiester]

How much is that rosewell rise case looks mad never seen one that big before it nearly 2 times taller than my pc case is nzxt phantom 530. Was thinking of changing it some day as had an eye on aerostrike i think not sure if that it is correct name for it as it one of those open air case.

Just found it here https://www.aerocool.us/strikex/strikex_air.html

That's not it...

 

[Edwired]

how ya mean that not it?

 

[lexluthermiester]

everywhere i checked it all either sold out or not stocking anymore damn im disappointed

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how ya mean that not it?

Never mind, you edited your post as I was responding.. It happens sometimes.

 

[Edwired]

sorry was confused about that as i was talking about two subjects in one. My brain is disfunctioning lately as im waiting on the appointment for cochlear implant dont know when that is due and it looks like the doctor is telling me that im more likely to have both ears fitted with the implants. Also the eye sight is not any better so i may have to get a deaf/blind walking cane as night time is getting longer lately