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XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT Ultra THICC II

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Disappointing. The cooler works fantastic, but it is defeated by XFX's horrible tuning of the card. Why is it drawing so much power? This is the same company whose flagship 480, the XFX 480 GTR black, not only ran faster then a reference card but drew less power in the process. They seem to have done the complete opposite here.

50 degree at idle and 77 during load... ?? Even with that giant heatsink.

Decent performance for an enthusiast card but energy consumption and the heat produced are still a weak point of AMD graphics cards

They put a little sun inside that card or what ?
Why are you blaming this on AMD?

The card does not spin its fans on idle. This is hardly the first GPU to do this, and ALL of them hover around similar idle temperatures. Nothing out of the ordinary there, and is the choice of the AIB, not AMD.

Second, at load this GPU is pulling 285+ watts of power, peaking at ~300. 77C under such conditions is just fine. Go look at nvidia cards with comparable power draw, and you will find similar temperature results. Again, not the fault of AMD, just simple physics, especially given 7nm is much denser then 14nm, and with such a small die its amazing they're able to remove this much heat at all.

Finally, look at the power consumption more closely. This card is drawing 65+ watts more power then the reference design, and running at a higher voltage. The temp and power usage results are the result of XFX not tuning their card right, not AMD themselves.

Stop blaming AMD for XFX's shortcomings and physics. Nvidia is going to have the exact same problem with 7nm whenever they get there.
 
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I hate it that nobody does this in their reviews. This is like one of the things you have to go for (if you are any tech savvy user at all which you should be if you are reading this site) when buying this card series, just like the vegas (both the 56 and 64) as well as rx 580s.

What the FU*K?
Easy there...

IMO Undervolting should always be standard procedure, especially for AMD aggressive binning process which uses higher voltages to improve yields. But I guess it's not mainstream enough. Haven't gotten around to buying a 5700 yet, but will post about it when I do.
 
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I've posted this before but since nothing has changed I feel like potential buyers should be aware of XFX's awful security on their RMA page: http://www.xfxsupport.com/Account/Register.aspx

They're still using an unsecured website in 2019. That's inexcusable and they'd lose my patronage for that reason alone.
 
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I believe there is a mistake in the end of conclusion:

Going more expensive, we have the ASUS RX 5700 XT STRIX and of course NVIDIA's RTX 2060 Super cards. That's why I feel a more appropriate price for the 5700 XT Ultra THICC II would be $420–$425. XFX does offer the non-Ultra THICC II at exactly the same price point, but lower out of the box clocks—I'll check on whether I can get a sample.
 

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I believe there is a mistake in the end of conclusion:

Going more expensive, we have the ASUS RX 5700 XT STRIX and of course NVIDIA's RTX 2060 Super cards. That's why I feel a more appropriate price for the 5700 XT Ultra THICC II would be $420–$425. XFX does offer the non-Ultra THICC II at exactly the same price point, but lower out of the box clocks—I'll check on whether I can get a sample.
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I know it is an inefficient and loud design.Pulse seems to be the best go to option.but something about this design makes me ignore my senses.
 
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Have the drivers for Navi improved yet in terms of undervolting and better-behaved fan-speed curves?

The review of the 5700XT left me thinking that AMD are pushing it too far in terms of clocks and voltage. It's noisy and hot with some weird Windows sleep/resume display errors.
The review of the 5700 left me thinking that AMD rushed that SKU. The fan profile is messed up and the voltage curve doesn't exist. It's just locked stupidly at one voltage for all states :(

I've ordered one for compute testing but can't help but feel it's probably premature.
 
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I know it is an inefficient and loud design.Pulse seems to be the best go to option.but something about this design makes me ignore my senses.
Well the non Ultra Thicc should be a lot quiter card, unless XfX botch the vbios on that one too. I would not compare this to Pulse anyway, upcoming Toxic is more like a direct competitor.
 
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I wouldn't put "Lack of Ray tracing" as something bad.
As it is now, hardware-accelerated SELECTIVE ray tracing it is in its beta (or even alpha) phase.
Whoever buys now card with RT, it is to be a beta tester, not future proof.
Next year will come GPUs from at least AMD and Nvidia with RT in hardware and will be much stronger offers compared to the ones today for probably less money. Intel might join the party too.
People who are working on nextgen consoles are already working on AMD's version of RT.

So, at the end of 2020, RT might be a feature that every new GPU should have, but today, it is just an expensive option.
 
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Great review BTW, as always. In my top 3 review sites.
 
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