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AMD today released the Radeon RX 590, which is an improved 12 nanometer version of the RX 580. Thanks to a large clock-speed increase, the card beats the GTX 1060 6 GB by 10%. XFX's RX 590 Fatboy comes with a large triple-slot cooler to keep the card cool and noise levels low.

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Powerdraw of a 1080TI, performance of a 1060. I don't see this taking a bite out of 1070, which it's supposed to be competing with.
 
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TSMC? You sure it's not from the GF 12nm line as zen+. I thought 12nm FFN is only for Nvidia.

Powerdraw of a 1080TI, performance of a 1060. I don't see this taking a bite out of 1070, which it's supposed to be competing with.
It's not even suppose to compete with gtx 1070. Well there's price point room between gtx1060 and gtx1070, where this slots. But yeah not really stellar product itself. AMD needs something to sell for Christmas and this does the job.
 
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This is just replacement for 580 but with 20% more power draw and 50% higher price so it's a failed product atm.

BTW great review like always!
 
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Powerdraw of a 1080TI
Your on a radeon HD so you know nothing, you could've googled the power consumption of a 1080 ti and hint for you - it's above 300w, large difference. And chances are this card will be better priced than a 1060 for more performance.
 

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This is just replacement for 580 but with 20% more power draw and 50% higher price so it's a failed product atm.

BTW great review like always!
Where do you find 580's so cheap?
 
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So glad I pulled the trigger on a 1070ti instead of waiting for reviews on the 590. At its current price it’s just doesn’t seem worth it.
 
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RX-580 needs 64 ROPS update and faster memory speeds.
 
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So glad I pulled the trigger on a 1070ti instead of waiting for reviews on the 590. At its current price it’s just doesn’t seem worth it.
$279 RRP according to https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-11-15-radeon-rx-590-preview-7014
And this card in the review will be priced around 300$ - the 1070 ti goes at a higher price point and it's dead, nvidia don't optimize their older generation cards so the performance will overtake nvidia's cards over time with drivers
 
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This is just replacement for 580 but with 20% more power draw and 50% higher price so it's a failed product atm.

BTW great review like always!
Except the power draw is matched by the increase in performance, while the 40% higher price will fall substantially in the coming months. Not only it's not a failed product - it will fit right in.
See how different things look when you can read and dunno... think stuff through before writing it down?

Also I'm not so sure on those $200 RX580s. The 8GB Sapphire Nitro is $240 on Newegg...
 
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you could've googled the power consumption of a 1080 ti and hint for you - it's above 300w, large difference.
Sorry, try again. The 1080Ti is 231w average, this RX 590 is 232w average. When the numbers are literally right in the review, why are you trying to say stuff that isn't true? Like, no googling required, W1z gives them to you right there.

And chances are this card will be better priced than a 1060 for more performance.
The GTX1060 6GB is literally $50 cheaper than this RX 590($229 vs $279). So, no, it won't be better priced than the 1060. Yes, it has 10% more performance, but is that worth a 20% higher price? IDK, that is up to the buyer. Of course the GTX1070 is 20% faster than the RX 590 and 20% more money, so at least it offers a linear price/performance gain over the RX 590. I mean, if you're going to spend the extra $50 on an RX590, it is hard to not consider spending another $60 to go with the GTX1070.

so the performance will overtake nvidia's cards over time with drivers
The problem is this isn't a new architecture. Major performance improvements come with new architectures, the drivers are optimized for the architecture and the performance for that architecture improves over time. There will be no improvements for RX 590, AMD has already optimized the Polaris architecture as much as it can in the 2 years since they launched it.

Perhaps, I certainly wouldn’t put it past nVidia.

However, $425CDN shipped for a BNIB 1070ti gives me a lot if performance that i can use right now and not maybe down the road later with driver improvements.
Polaris and Pascal are both optimized as far as they are going to go at this point. So the performance is what it is. We might see a percentage point swing one way or the other, but there isn't going to be any major improvement. It definitely isn't going to suddenly make the RX 590 perform like a GTX1070. The architecture has been pushed as far as it's going to go.

Except the power draw is matched by the increase in performance, while the 40% higher price will fall substantially in the coming months. Not only it's not a failed product - it will fit right in.
See how different things look when you can read and dunno... think stuff through before writing it down?

Also I'm not so sure on those $200 RX580s. The 8GB Sapphire Nitro is $240 on Newegg...
There will likely be price drops across the board on graphics cards after the holidays. So saying "price will fall eventually" isn't really a valid argument. We are judging the card on where it sits right now, not where it might sit in a few months. AMD knew the pricing of the market when they released this card, if they wanted it to be cheaper they would have made it cheaper. If AMD really wanted a winner they would have priced the RX 590 at $240 and lowered the rest of the stack below it. But they did exactly what nVidia did, released a new card that is faster than their others(ignoring Vega) and instead of replacing the highest Polaris card in the product stack and keeping that price point, they just added a new higher price point.
 
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Actually, you are wrong. The 1080ti average gaming power consumption is 230 watts with a peak of 270 watts. A far cry away from above 300 watts.
Nope your wrong, your comparing the "founders" 1080 ti to an aftermarket card
That's my 1080 ti ftw3 power consumption, My 1080 ti draws more than "230w average"
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-gtx-1080-ti-ftw3-gaming,5061-5.html
Besides, your forgetting the pricing difference between the 1080 ti and rx 590 - it's a stupid comparison.
 
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it is hard to not consider spending another $60 to go with the GTX1070.
60$ more for a card that doesn't support freesync - if your going low end on nvidia you'll end up with a no sync monitor without handing over a kidney - you'll end up with v sync all the time

Polaris and Pascal are both optimized as far as they are going to go at this point.
So you work at AMD? Well even if you did your talking BS, there is no limit to "optimization" - what about newer titles? Well nvidia will stop optimizing our 10 series cards in favor of RTX, whilst AMD pulls ahead over time.
 
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What has happened to GPU market today? Recommending to buy revision of revision with one of the worse performance per watt ratio World has ever seen. Have we really become so desperate? Granted NGreedia is ignoring low to mid range GPU segment all together with RTX release, so second revision of 2.5 years old lower mid range architecture can be sold for $280 and still call it a good deal, but c'mon PS5 will be faster than this.
 
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Now the x90 name is tainted. x90 now competing with competitor’s xx60. Man this is just sad.

Remove the game bundle and drop the price to maybe $220 then it would be a better value.

Here is to hope David Wang works his magic on what comes after Navi. GCN must die ASAP. Jack of all trades and master of none.
 
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What has happened to GPU market today? Recommending to buy revision of revision with one of the worse performance per watt ratio World has ever seen. Have we really become so desperate? Granted NGreedia is ignoring low to mid range GPU segment all together, so second revision of 2.5 years old lower mid range architecture can be sold for $280 and still call it a good deal.
Well do you want to work at AMD and fix it, people are expecting a 2080 ti here for peanuts, AMD can't compete in the high end market, get over it - and when they do nvidia fanboys like the ones in this thread will continue to buy nvidia. If it's not for you don't buy it, It's got it's use case and people will buy what meets their needs best or at least most of the time. Remember AMD works on nowhere near as much as R&D as intel and nvidia have, AMD is poor in comparison to the two AND they have no choice to not release a card every year, or they'll basically be handing over some more market share to nvidia, and remember their staff need to get paid so they need to release something people will buy or they'll end up bankrupt.
 

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60$ more for a card that doesn't support freesync - if your going low end on nvidia you'll end up with a no sync monitor without handing over a kidney - you'll end up with v sync all the time
Despite AMD fan belief, freesync is not a technology that most people actually give a shit about. And freesync is only needed if the card is too weak to maintain a good enough framerate. Not really an issue with the GTX1070@1080p like it is with the RX 590. I'd rather just get a 75Hz monitor and game at a stead 75Hz or 60Hz than deal with the card dipping down below 60FPS and my monitor needing to adapt try try to make the stuttering look smoother.
 
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Remove the game bundle and drop the price to maybe $220 then it would be a better value.
That'd without a doubt sell like mad, I'd imagine we'd see cheap cards on the used market at around £150~ I might grab one for my other rig
 

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Your on a radeon HD so you know nothing, you could've googled the power consumption of a 1080 ti and hint for you - it's above 300w, large difference. And chances are this card will be better priced than a 1060 for more performance.
What have you been reading and where? Here, on TPU, this card draws exactly twice the power the 1060 6GB does, for 10-15% better performance (15% at 4k, but neither card can really handle that resolution comfortably). And it costs $50 more than 1060 6GB.
 
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Despite AMD fan belief, freesync is not a technology that most people actually give a shit about.
Still 60$ more in your pocket, some people care about saving what they can.
 
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So, significantly more expensive (MSRP), significantly more power consumption, to only 10% extra performance in most cases.

Either the street price will be much lower or I don't know who will buy this card compared to the much cheaper RX580.
 
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