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jevyou

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Look at the timings.
Anything with 14-14-14 or 15-15-15 or 16-16-16 will be top tier Samsung B-Die ICs and will cost a LOT more.
The 16-18-18 / 16-19-19 3200 and 3600 kits are going to be Hynix or Micron or low binned Samsung B-Die.
The QVL for your MB lists the Chip maker for each kit:
B550M AORUS PRO DDR4 QVL ( Vermeer CPU ) 20201110.xlsx (gigabyte.com)
When i look for ram i see only the first cl16 they don’t advertise more than that

Reviews, at least good ones. Also, Google "DDR4 IC list" , you will find sites that use members input as to the model of the kit, revision if Corsair, and the ICs it uses.

3200 is fine. 3600 is slightly better is all.
I cant find a list, can you link me one ?
 

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i4memory was another good one, but the site wouldn't load for me.
 
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@ jevyou,
What Country are you in ?

And the QVL I keep linking to shows the IC maker and the timings for each kit listed.
Look at it!!!!!!
 

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Same, thats why i asked you :(

Aside from the link I did offer @NoJuan999 put you on the right path with looking out for the first 3 timings when looking at products at Amazon. I saw some affordable kits, but those either use low grade Samsung or other ICs as timings do not match.
 

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Aside from the link I did offer @NoJuan999 put you on the right path with looking out for the first 3 timings when looking at products at Amazon. I saw some affordable kits, but those either use low grade Samsung or other ICs as timings do not match.
Samsung is better than nanya i am sure lol
 

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Samsung is better than nanya i am sure lol

AMD systems do seem to have less issues for the masses selecting high quality Samsung B-die.
 
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Just FYI,
I have a 3600 G.Skill kit with Hynix DJC ICs and they work great for me up to 3733, but that's as far as they go with my MB/CPU.
And my 2nd PC has a G.Skill 3200 kit that uses low binned Samsung ICs and they top out at 3400 on that MB.
(look at my specs and Signature to see what Exact kits/MBs/CPUs I have).

With a price limit of $75, I seriously doubt you will find a 16 GB kit that works on your MB/CPU and has Samsung top tier ICs.
 
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Just FYI,
I have a 3600 G.Skill kit with Hynix DJC ICs and they work great for me up to 3733, but that's as far as they go with my MB/CPU.
And my 2nd PC has a G.Skill 3200 kit that uses low binned Samsung ICs and they top out at 3400 on that MB.
(look at my specs and Signature to see what Exact kits/MBs/CPUs I have).

With a price limit of $75, I seriously doubt you will find a 16 GB kit that works on your MB/CPU and has Samsung top tier ICs.
I dont care what company i just want it to work on 3600mhz cl16.
 
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I dont care what company i just want it to work on 3600mhz cl16.
Then look at the QVL I linked ( a few times now) at the 3600 C16 kits and then search Amazon for those exact same model number kits.
 
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Hi,
QVL doesn't matter if you use this app
B-Die Finder
 
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Hi,
QVL doesn't matter if you use this app
B-Die Finder
He can't afford high binned B-Die kits.
He is looking for a 3600 C16 kit that will work on his rig for $75 or less.
From what I can find he may have to settle for a C16 3200 kit to stay under his $75 limit.
 
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Hi,
Used market places most 3600c16 kits would be b-die.

No region shown so no idea where to suggest besides this sites used market place.

 

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Then look at the QVL I linked ( a few times now) at the 3600 C16 kits and then search Amazon for those exact same model number kits.
I tried i only found the Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4B (Black)
That is a match for my MB

this is a link for the ram Crucial
 
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Hi,
Yeah those are likely e-die or micron/ hynix with loose timings like that
Typically b-die would be 16-16-16-36 timings
That trident-z was only 120.us
 
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I tried i only found the Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 16GB (8GBx2) CL16 BL2K8G36C16U4B (Black)
That is a match for my MB

this is a link for the ram Crucial
Those will work fine (and yes they will be Micron ICs, because Crucial = Micron).
And they meet your $75 limit.
You should be able to just install them and set the XMP profile and be done.
 

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ok great but another problem now :(
Last night ther was stock on them now they unavailable:( i need to wait.
I am going to buy 2 sets of this its supposed to work according to QVL

Those will work fine (and yes they will be Micron ICs, because Crucial = Micron).
And they meet your $75 limit.
You should be able to just install them and set the XMP profile and be done.
 
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Instead of Buying 2 - 16 GB kits ($75x2 = $150), I strongly advise you to buy 1 - 32 GB kit (from your QVL) like this one for $149:
Crucial Ballistix 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3600 Desktop Gaming Memory (Black) | BL2K16G36C16U4B | Crucial.com
But i have heard that 4 dims on zen 3 ryzen get you more fps then 2 dims so thats why i think of getting 4 dims i saw this data on youtube channel that the guy looks like jesus.
And also that is on my 75 dollar cap so i can order 2 without paying tax

Ok so i found this One and i see on reviews that people oc this memory to 3800 even and its very cheap so i think i will buy it
 
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Go for it.
Hopefully it will run at 3600 for you with 4 sticks installed.
And as far as I know the difference between 4 sticks and 2 sticks isn't enough to matter in most cases.
Are you really going to notice a 1-3 FPS difference (and in many games there is Zero difference) ?
But running 4 sticks is definitely harder on the Memory controller which is why it sometimes will have to be run at a lower frequency.
 
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Go for it.
Hopefully it will run at 3600 for you with 4 sticks installed.
And as far as I know the difference between 4 sticks and 2 sticks isn't enough to matter in most cases.
Are you really going to notice a 1-3 FPS difference (and in many games there is Zero difference) ?
But running 4 sticks is definitely harder on the Memory controller which is why it sometimes will have to be run at a lower frequency.
Ok so i decided to stay with 16 gig but i ordered the rgb ones and the 3600 so i would just put the xmp profile and go
This is the one i ordered
 
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Those should work well and run at 3600 once you enable the XMP profile.
thank you for all your help, i appreciate every comment.
took me like 2 weeks to get the 5600x and rtx 3070 because of all the scalpers using bots.
i never thought that ram could be so complicated with ryzen cpu.
 
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You're very welcome. :D
 
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Sorry about that i am on my phone.
I am trying to find good ram on amazon that is cheap and works good with my system.
Can you recommend something ?
Check out Newegg the Gskill ram I want is under 300 and they want over 400 on Amazon.
 
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