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y have ddr2 when u can have ddr1 lol

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i had no idea where to put this so i just made a new one

this is just basikly to show what ddr1 can still do i have a system with ddr2 but my ddr1 gamer is faster
i have the trile so i dont know the middel numbers [copy an write] i could guess but i wont so we have read mb.s and latincy

an
ddr2 first 666mh @ 625mh cus of cpu oc.ing had to drop ram divider

6327 mb.s read [dual channel ddr2 5.5.5.15 cr2<- not tweaked yeat] an
latency of 65.6 n.s not bad

now for my ddr1 [ocz platnum] 2 sticks 1 gig each

8828 mb.s read dual channel ddr 2.5 3 3.2 cr1 @ ddr580 they ar ddr 400 sticks lol an
latency of 32.3 ns

this comp has owned many systems lol [did till the quads came along lol]
 
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you're able to run your ddr that fast at such tight timings? thats impressive- are you sure its stable? I have the same RAM and I have to loosen timings.

of course my proc isnt quite as fast...
 

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curt your test is a bit flawed as well, most sticks that I would buy in 667MHz can do so with 3-3-3-9 timings not 5-5-5-15.
 

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yeah this dfi expert board can relly beat kick the ram

only used 2.8v from 2.5

i drop as many setting as i can did take me for ever to get it stable thow that was a top end mark

but i run them at 507mh at thows timeings 24/7 i duno if shed do 290fsb/ddr580 24/7 the ishews i was haveing was my cpu cus my lil opty165 was trying to do 3.3gh

its at 3024mh rite now of a fsb of 338 lol

i havent tweaked the ddr 2 yeah but i out benchen evin ddr stock 800 on everest
 
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We have DDR2 because it allows us to overclock more and is cheaper :p


Also if your CPU clock is higher, you get a better mb/s RAM speed.
 

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2x1GB DDR2 from a Dell. Stock latencies 6-6-6-18 @ DDR800
stock volts 1.8, running at 1.9
 

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thats more of what i was exspecting for dd2 but not much better then mine

lol never seen that screen before lol but i found it now ill put mine up
 

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@ Hat:
You mention heavily tweaked subtimings in your specs,
I'd like to know how much faster your ram is with tweaked sub timings.

Would you have a screenshot from everest cache mem bench, with normal and 1 screenshot with your tweaked sub timings?

I never changed the sub memory timings but I want to give it a try if there is a noticable difference in performance.

My current settings:
 

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hell yeah they do ill get a pic but i duno how to put them up like u did

id just change them one by one oc the comp to where u like it find out what the auto picks an go down from there worst case u gots clear the cmos an re over clock

gota love this dfi.s oc save thing bios comes with 4 save slots saves fsb speed an all that its awsome never see one like it
 

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Just so you know, latency isn't everything. DDR3 proved this.
 
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Just so you know, latency isn't everything. DDR3 proved this.
exactly, here's an example:





compare the DDR3 read/write amounts to those of DDR2/DDR - at similar latencies :D
 

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exactly, here's an example:





compare the DDR3 read/write amounts to those of DDR2/DDR - at similar latencies :D
Maybe a bit off-topic but
I noticed there is not much difference in a core2duo 3.6GHz vs a core2quad 3.6GHz L1 cache benchmark results and also the latency is equal.
 
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Maybe a bit off-topic but
I noticed there is not much difference in a core2duo 3.6GHz vs a core2quad 3.6GHz L1 cache benchmark results and also the latency is equal.
for L1 - the Quads tend to excell with the L2 cahce, though - but that's all FSB related. If you could bump your BUS speed up to 450, I'd wager good money your L1 and L2 would be dead-nutz the same as mine, if not better.


but, back OT - DDR3, IMO, slaughters DDR2/DDR just in how much information it can move, and I think I've done a decent job of proving mid-range DDR3 with a very mild OC is more effective than DDR2/DDR with high-OC.

Once I get around to liquid cooling, where my CPU can support sustained 4GHz clocks, and once I improve the DRAM cooling a bit more - we'll see just how much more kick-ass DDR3 can go. I'd like to hit 2GHz DRAM clocks :p
 

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Also curt the biggest reason for DDR2 as far as benching is concerned, when was the last time your DDR went below 25 seconds in Super Pi?
 

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@ Hat:
You mention heavily tweaked subtimings in your specs,
I'd like to know how much faster your ram is with tweaked sub timings.
Do you consider command rate and tRC to be subtimings?
 

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Do you consider command rate and tRC to be subtimings?

"2x1gb DDR2 800 @ 817 4-5-5-5 with hevily tweaked subtimings"

I'm interested to know the differences in performance/stability from before and after the tweaked timings.
 

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im not saying ddr1 is better just saying that pritty damn fast for ddr1

yeah if tweaked the hell outa the ddr1

the ddr2 is stock for now but i will put up the difernce

tryed to get a sick mark not to night thow made it to the desk top at 3312 with the ram at 27?mh

i was close on that superpi an my ram was at 250
 

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an heres my 24/7 everst speeds

ill get top speed bench soon i know it can do 3.3gh so im hopen to get 3.2gh stable

lol oc % 69
 

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Hey, i have downloaded and installed Everest Ultimate Edition, and i want to run the same test as you guys are doing ^ just to see how my DDR 1 RAM goes etc, but i dont know how to get that test up ^ can you help me to run that test? thanks :)
 

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Just ran the test 1more time, with the first benchmark test I was running a HD dreamscene movie on my desktop, in this benchmark I paused the movie.

 

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well i did this test, even tho i have no idea how you all got that blue window up ^ :confused: but anyway this is what i got for the four tests,

Memory read > 6975 MB/s

Memory Write > 3432 MB/s

Memory Copy > 4654 MB/s

Memory Latency > 49.4 ns
 

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well i did this test, even tho i have no idea how you all got that blue window up ^ :confused: but anyway this is what i got for the four tests,

Memory read > 6975 MB/s

Memory Write > 3432 MB/s

Memory Copy > 4654 MB/s

Memory Latency > 49.4 ns
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