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haha i always find those calculators way overrated

both you and i know that that rig does NOT consume 450w, i will bet on it


10$ lol
 

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@kurosagi01 try firing up furmark and after that some occt or intelburn, and if the psu gets VERY hot its not good
 
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even so it's not going to be very long before it dies they test them at what 100% load in a room that's chilled to keep the psu at 25 degC unless you can do the same I figure 90% load 40+ degC = less than expected Lifespan

my 580W ran everything in my specs but it didn't take long for it to shit itself massive Vdroop on all rails
 

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even so it's not going to be very long before it dies they test them at what 100% load in a room that's chilled to keep the psu at 25 degC unless you can do the same I figure 90% load 40+ degC = less than expected Lifespan

my 580W ran everything in my specs but it didn't take long for it to shit itself massive Vdroop on all rails
thats because hiper is a crap PSU brand.

you get a corsair PSU for example, and they'll go well above their rated specs.
 
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you obviously have never tried the CX400W :p

its one of the best 400w psu's out there, its extremely nice

and NO im not a corsair FANBOY....but the cx400.......its just amazing
 
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thats because hiper is a crap PSU brand.
actually the Hiper typeR-580 got great reviews it's only later on they started cheaping out and turned to shit

but when all is said and done regardless of brand and or quality you run it at it's limits or more than and it's going to die sooner rather than later hence why i replaced the typeR with an SS strider 750W Plus yes I can pull 848W from it if need be before it shuts off is it good to do this on a regular basis NO it isn't

anywho I didn't want to start an argument over this we all have our own opinions on PSU's
 

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actually the Hiper typeR-580 got great reviews it's only later on they started cheaping out and turned to shit

but when all is said and done regardless of brand and or quality you run it at it's limits or more than and it's going to die sooner rather than later hence why i replaced the typeR with an SS strider 750W Plus yes I can pull 848W from it if need be before it shuts off is it good to do this on a regular basis NO it isn't

anywho I didn't want to start an argument over this we all have our own opinions on PSU's
Great reviews =/= quality psu. The only reviewer I know that actually properly stresses PSUs during reviews is JonnyGuru.

Hiper is, and always has been, average or below. I would happily run that system on a 500w Corsair, for example.
 
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agreed on johhnyguru, he truly does abuse them to the point of failure, for accurate testing.

btw, just because a PSU uses more at the wall than the PSU is rated for, doesnt mean its a good thing.

a 500W unit with 50% efficiency will use 750W at the wall to output that 500W - that doesnt mean its putting 750W into your PC, it means 250W is lost as heat.

now if it reaches 750W while maintaning 85% efficiency or something, thats a pro.
 

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you obviously have never tried the CX400W :p

its one of the best 400w psu's out there, its extremely nice

and NO im not a corsair FANBOY....but the cx400.......its just amazing
Indeed it is. I love mine :D
 
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On your average system the card requires you to have a 450 to 500 Watt power supply unit.
I saw that as well. Not arguing with you either because you do show valid points but cmon man you gotta agree , core i3 530 is like half the consumption of an i7 965 if not more.

Also the load wattage is measured pulling from the wall. thats not even accounting efficiency from the power supply.
 
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thats only if you have a medium /low end psu they recommend that

that 400w corsair WILL beat the shit outta a 5-550w low end psu i can assure you that much

and this is not a argument, its more a good discussion, and i like them if they're sober and "well" (meaning no bad words about each other) spoken , like this one is :)
 
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hey I'm not saying it wont work here it's just I don't think it's going to last a long time that's all
 
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...a 500W unit with 50% efficiency will use 750W at the wall to output that 500W - that doesnt mean its putting 750W into your PC, it means 250W is lost as heat.

now if it reaches 750W while maintaning 85% efficiency or something, thats a pro.
500W psu with 50% effic, full loaded, will pull out of the wall socket 1000W=(500W/0.50) ; not 750w.-

500W psu with 85% effic, full loaded, will pull out of the wall socket 588W=(500W/0.85)
Those 88W=(588w-500w) are not totally losted by heat (joule effect), i mean mostly it is; but also there are magnetic losses in transformer's core, energy storage in the form of magnetic field in the inductors and energy storage in the form of electric field in the capacitors.
 
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Great reviews =/= quality psu. The only reviewer I know that actually properly stresses PSUs during reviews is JonnyGuru.
Just like to add in Hardware Secrets and [H]. Jonny though has the best equipment if I'm not mistaken but the other two are good and do it right. Just in case your looking for a review of a unit that Jonny has not covered.
 
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Got my new HAF 912, Silver Arrow and Scythe S-Flex fans in today.






Installing the Silver Arrow in this size case was a major pain in the ass but it does fit with room to spare. Fired it up, the idle temps were 52C and by the time I got into windows it was up to 65C, over the limit for a Phenom II. First thought was the TIM went all over the place because of how much I had to tweak the heatsink to get the 4 pin power plug and top center mobo screw in, but then it hit me that I forgot the remove the plastic peel off on the heatsink base. Had to tear it all back down again but two hours wasted beats a fried CPU. With the heatsink installed correctly (derp derp) my Phenom II @ 3.8 GHz is idling at 32C, 6 degrees lower than the old V8. Can't wait to see what it can do after the TIM settles.

Overall two big thumbs up for the Silver Arrow (aside from installation), HAF 912 and Scythe S-Flex fans. Big improvement over what I had before.
 
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500W psu with 50% effic, full loaded, will pull out of the wall socket 1000W=(500W/0.50) ; not 750w.-

500W psu with 85% effic, full loaded, will pull out of the wall socket 588W=(500W/0.85)
Those 88W=(588w-500w) are not totally losted by heat (joule effect), i mean mostly it is; but also there are magnetic losses in transformer's core, energy storage in the form of magnetic field in the inductors and energy storage in the form of electric field in the capacitors.
math + me = fail every time


i couldnt remember if it was 50% more or 100% more, so i went with the lower figure
 
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Got my new HAF 912, Silver Arrow and Scythe S-Flex fans in today.

http://imgur.com/MsUIY.jpg
http://imgur.com/OMYaC.jpg
http://imgur.com/R3dc9.jpg

Installing the Silver Arrow in this size case was a major pain in the ass but it does fit with room to spare. Fired it up, the idle temps were 52C and by the time I got into windows it was up to 65C, over the limit for a Phenom II. First thought was the TIM went all over the place because of how much I had to tweak the heatsink to get the 4 pin power plug and top center mobo screw in, but then it hit me that I forgot the remove the plastic peel off on the heatsink base. Had to tear it all back down again but two hours wasted beats a fried CPU. With the heatsink installed correctly (derp derp) my Phenom II @ 3.8 GHz is idling at 32C, 6 degrees lower than the old V8. Can't wait to see what it can do after the TIM settles.

Overall two big thumbs up for the Silver Arrow (aside from installation), HAF 912 and Scythe S-Flex fans. Big improvement over what I had before.
Nice rig bro! looks clean, just tuck those fan cables around the back of the cooler and it would look perfect.;) btw, that cpu cooler is huge:rockout:
 
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Nice rig bro! looks clean, just tuck those fan cables around the back of the cooler and it would look perfect.;) btw, that cpu cooler is huge:rockout:
+1 Looking nice.
 
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with all the shit i have im my rig, i barely drain 400watts from the wall... 500 if i start clocking and pushing her.
 
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Nice rig bro! looks clean, just tuck those fan cables around the back of the cooler and it would look perfect.;) btw, that cpu cooler is huge:rockout:
Yeah I need to do some final tidying tomorrow, just spent 6 frustrating hours putting it together.

Just did a 15 min linpack test of a Phenom II @ 4.0 GHz, 1.5v and it barely cracked 50c. The Silver Arrow is a beast!