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Nice rig bro! looks clean, just tuck those fan cables around the back of the cooler and it would look perfect.;)
Bah. Go for originality and find a little plastic trapeze artist to hang from them.:toast:

Looks very clean, and the fan sleeving is a nice touch.
 

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with all the shit i have im my rig, i barely drain 400watts from the wall... 500 if i start clocking and pushing her.
i dont even hit 350W, so yeah, same boat here.


PSU reccomendations always aim high, because of two things.

1. cheap shitey PSU's that over-rate their capacity

2. multi rail PSU's having high wattage, but spread thin over heaps of rails.

a 600W PSU spread over four 12V rails, a 3.3v rail and a 5v rail aint gunna work so well when one particular component is really power hungry (OC'd i7, 5970, fermi, whatever)

with corsair we're talking under-rated PSU's with single 12V rails, so the odds of them working and laster longer lifespans is quite a lot higher than a cheap multirail PSU.
 

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Nothing wrong or unreliable with a quality multirail PSU either. I'd have no problem putting my TP750 with its 4 25A 12v rails heads up against any 750w single rail Corsair :D
 

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Nothing wrong or unreliable with a quality multirail PSU either. I'd have no problem putting my TP750 with its 4 25A 12v rails heads up against any 750w single rail Corsair :D
and it works fine so long as no one component exceeds that 25A


for example, what if you went 4x midrange cards (like 9800GT eco) for folding or SLI - woops, primary rail gets overloaded, the extra rails for just PCI-E connectors go unused.


yes, its unlikely - and its not happening in your system, but its a good example of how more rails is not a good thing.
 

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and it works fine so long as no one component exceeds that 25A


for example, what if you went 4x midrange cards (like 9800GT eco) for folding or SLI - woops, primary rail gets overloaded, the extra rails for just PCI-E connectors go unused.


yes, its unlikely - and its not happening in your system, but its a good example of how more rails is not a good thing.
Yeah, I would say that example is pretty unlikely. But while we are discussing unlikely scenarios...

Jonnyguru.com said:
I wanted to take a moment to comment on that single massive 100.4A 12V rail. I've been seeing a backlash against multiple 12V designs, and I feel some comment from me is timely; though I've written about this before. As of right now, this is the largest single 12V design I've tested, with the Silverstone Zeus ZM1200M coming in a close second and Ultra's X4 1200W unit coming in third. I have mixed feelings about this. One one hand, I know why the single 12V rail is there and how it came to be in the marketplace. But on the other hand, it makes me a mite nervous. 100.4A is an awful lot of current. You can melt the insulation on some seriously thick gauge wires with that, never mind the 18-16 gauge wires most power supplies this size use to connect to your computer parts. Direct short circuits shouldn't be too much a problem, but what if something doesn't fail in a direct short? What if something partially fails, starts drawing massive 12V current through three or four small wires, and yet doesn't overdraw that 100.4A rail? There is a risk factor here when you start getting 12V rails this huge, people, whether you're talking about a Corsair, Ultra, PC Power and Cooling, or any other company's single 12V design. It's still a reasonably minor risk on a well built unit like this, but a risk is present nonetheless. My rambling point is this - multiple 12V rails aren't the devil, folks, especially on units that can pull more power out of the wall than your toaster.
Yes, its unlikely, but its a good example of how a single rail could not be a good thing.
 
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I'm surprised that the 400W psu you have in there isn't cooking itself at full noise your system is dragging around 445W out of it


@ IamEzio Is that a plastic coated wire tie i see holding that 4/8 pins cable (naughty naughty ) use a plastic zip tie
yes it is simthing like a metal wire coated with plastic.
the Cables of My OCZ PSU are realy short and all my Plastic zip's uden in the Case :D
 

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Yeah, I would say that example is pretty unlikely. But while we are discussing unlikely scenarios...



Yes, its unlikely, but its a good example of how a single rail could not be a good thing.
i'd be fine with a PSU like that having say, 4x 250W rails. the point is, some PSU's cap them too low - and 'too low' gets higher and higher each generation (cough fermi)
 
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2. multi rail PSU's having high wattage, but spread thin over heaps of rails.

Not true, stop buying crappy mutli rails when you do get them :laugh:

O had 65 amps to share over 6 rails once, plenty enough considering my psu was designed with balance already in mind, I.E graphics had two rails for it's self ( 4 pci-e) and so on.

Impossible for me to trip it up unless I kept adding molex splitters and tried to overload that rail :laugh:
 
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Got my new HAF 912, Silver Arrow and Scythe S-Flex fans in today.

http://imgur.com/MsUIY.jpg
http://imgur.com/OMYaC.jpg
http://imgur.com/R3dc9.jpg
http://imgur.com/UHZ4V.jpg

Installing the Silver Arrow in this size case was a major pain in the ass but it does fit with room to spare. Fired it up, the idle temps were 52C and by the time I got into windows it was up to 65C, over the limit for a Phenom II. First thought was the TIM went all over the place because of how much I had to tweak the heatsink to get the 4 pin power plug and top center mobo screw in, but then it hit me that I forgot the remove the plastic peel off on the heatsink base. Had to tear it all back down again but two hours wasted beats a fried CPU. With the heatsink installed correctly (derp derp) my Phenom II @ 3.8 GHz is idling at 32C, 6 degrees lower than the old V8. Can't wait to see what it can do after the TIM settles.

Overall two big thumbs up for the Silver Arrow (aside from installation), HAF 912 and Scythe S-Flex fans. Big improvement over what I had before.
:laugh: Looks about as tight as a D14 in a CM 590.

I got me a 4 pin y cable extension so I could hook it up to the 4 pin on the board and run it to the back side for easy connecting and disconnecting fans.
 
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Got my new HAF 912, Silver Arrow and Scythe S-Flex fans in today.

http://imgur.com/MsUIY.jpg
http://imgur.com/OMYaC.jpg
http://imgur.com/R3dc9.jpg
http://imgur.com/UHZ4V.jpg

Installing the Silver Arrow in this size case was a major pain in the ass but it does fit with room to spare. Fired it up, the idle temps were 52C and by the time I got into windows it was up to 65C, over the limit for a Phenom II. First thought was the TIM went all over the place because of how much I had to tweak the heatsink to get the 4 pin power plug and top center mobo screw in, but then it hit me that I forgot the remove the plastic peel off on the heatsink base. Had to tear it all back down again but two hours wasted beats a fried CPU. With the heatsink installed correctly (derp derp) my Phenom II @ 3.8 GHz is idling at 32C, 6 degrees lower than the old V8. Can't wait to see what it can do after the TIM settles.

Overall two big thumbs up for the Silver Arrow (aside from installation), HAF 912 and Scythe S-Flex fans. Big improvement over what I had before.

Why not take that middle HDD rack out for improved airflow if you're not using it?
 
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Got my new HAF 912, Silver Arrow and Scythe S-Flex fans in today.

http://imgur.com/MsUIY.jpg
http://imgur.com/OMYaC.jpg
http://imgur.com/R3dc9.jpg
http://imgur.com/UHZ4V.jpg

Installing the Silver Arrow in this size case was a major pain in the ass but it does fit with room to spare. Fired it up, the idle temps were 52C and by the time I got into windows it was up to 65C, over the limit for a Phenom II. First thought was the TIM went all over the place because of how much I had to tweak the heatsink to get the 4 pin power plug and top center mobo screw in, but then it hit me that I forgot the remove the plastic peel off on the heatsink base. Had to tear it all back down again but two hours wasted beats a fried CPU. With the heatsink installed correctly (derp derp) my Phenom II @ 3.8 GHz is idling at 32C, 6 degrees lower than the old V8. Can't wait to see what it can do after the TIM settles.

Overall two big thumbs up for the Silver Arrow (aside from installation), HAF 912 and Scythe S-Flex fans. Big improvement over what I had before.
OMG i want that case :( it looks really nice.

Also i appreciate all the comments about my 400w psu haha =p i am having hard time to believe its still running all the hardwares and my gtx460 is factory overclocked and my cpu is overclocked too,i am loving how good this psu is right now and the minimum amps they reconmend is 24amps on the gtx460 while i have 30amps lol.
But yeah i am planning on upgrading psu in near future.
 

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Got my new HAF 912, Silver Arrow and Scythe S-Flex fans in today.

Installing the Silver Arrow in this size case was a major pain in the ass but it does fit with room to spare. Fired it up, the idle temps were 52C and by the time I got into windows it was up to 65C, over the limit for a Phenom II. First thought was the TIM went all over the place because of how much I had to tweak the heatsink to get the 4 pin power plug and top center mobo screw in, but then it hit me that I forgot the remove the plastic peel off on the heatsink base. Had to tear it all back down again but two hours wasted beats a fried CPU. With the heatsink installed correctly (derp derp) my Phenom II @ 3.8 GHz is idling at 32C, 6 degrees lower than the old V8. Can't wait to see what it can do after the TIM settles.

Overall two big thumbs up for the Silver Arrow (aside from installation), HAF 912 and Scythe S-Flex fans. Big improvement over what I had before.
Looks pretty nice 'tho you could probably do some more tiding up with some of those cables on the fan if you got a couple of sleeved extensions. Still, I'm really excited about the HAF 912 and hope I can get my hands on one to build a system in here soon. :rockout:
 

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i'd be fine with a PSU like that having say, 4x 250W rails. the point is, some PSU's cap them too low - and 'too low' gets higher and higher each generation (cough GF100)
fixed :) Fermi is fine but GF100 loves the juice alright.

and Zen_ I really like what you've done with the new case and fans strapped to the CPU cooler :toast:
 
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Looks pretty nice 'tho you could probably do some more tiding up with some of those cables on the fan if you got a couple of sleeved extensions.
I had bought a PWM y-cable for the fans and did just that today.



Overall I really like the silver arrow, but the installation was a full tour of the nine circles of hell. I would also advise anyone using Thermalright's new variable tension mount for AM2/3 sockets to be careful . If you screw down full tension it will cause severe mobo warp, so much it could damage it. 2 or 3 threads exposed seems to be about right.
 
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good info, i suggest you send Thermalright a mail regarding that :toast:
 

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Got my HTPC put together. Specs on the left.





Gets just over 14,000 points in Vantage, all stock settings. :)
 

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What is the verdict on that "intake" fan?

Nice rig, let me know when you get bored of that 460;)
 
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My 'new' case (that im using till i start on my desk) got lost in the post... HOW DO YOU LOSE A CASE!!!!

So... im still on the side.

Nice rig Erocker. That your main rig now?
 

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That's a sweet HTPC Erocker.:rockout:
 

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What is the verdict on that "intake" fan?

Nice rig, let me know when you get bored of that 460;)
The intake fan is great! Figure it moves about as much air as a 120mm 75cfm fan. Great for tight places. I thought the GTX 460 expelled air out the back, but apparently it doesn't. I'm letting it run for a while to see how hot this box gets. I'm just happy the PSU did it's job in Vantage without getting too hot or squealing or something like that. I'm downloading Mafia II right now to give it a good workout.


Nice rig Erocker. That your main rig now?
Naw, I still have my fully W/C'd AMD rig with a 5850 and a GT 240 for PhysX. I'm currently considering selling it all and just using the HTPC for now. Sandy Bridge is a bit far off yet though...
 
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The intake fan is great! Figure it moves about as much air as a 120mm 75cfm fan. Great for tight places. I thought the GTX 460 expelled air out the back, but apparently it doesn't. I'm letting it run for a while to see how hot this box gets. I'm just happy the PSU did it's job in Vantage without getting too hot or squealing or something like that. I'm downloading Mafia II right now to give it a good workout.




Naw, I still have my fully W/C'd AMD rig with a 5850 and a GT 240 for PhysX. I'm currently contaminating selling it all and just using the HTPC for now. Sandy Bridge is a bit far off yet though...
Say what?:wtf:
What were you really contaminating and with what?
 
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The intake fan is great! Figure it moves about as much air as a 120mm 75cfm fan. Great for tight places. I thought the GTX 460 expelled air out the back, but apparently it doesn't. I'm letting it run for a while to see how hot this box gets. I'm just happy the PSU did it's job in Vantage without getting too hot or squealing or something like that. I'm downloading Mafia II right now to give it a good workout.




Naw, I still have my fully W/C'd AMD rig with a 5850 and a GT 240 for PhysX. I'm currently contaminating selling it all and just using the HTPC for now. Sandy Bridge is a bit far off yet though...
Wait hold the presses. You are going green and Intel for the next build?!
 

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So? I've had Intel and Nvidia rigs before. This AMD rig has lasted me a year. I've owned intel stuff longer.


*Oh, spell check fail above. lol.
 

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I suppose I should put some pics up of my "main" rig.. though it's powered off for a while while I break this new one in.