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Agreed but working on it is never as easy as on air. However water can be very simple and low maintenence. AIR is just extremely simple.
 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah... Air's all ways easy... but not as fun! :laugh:
 
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Waters something worth doing, but long term I don't like so many mechanical parts in control of my cooling. It's just an initial fear I have from the time my pump randomly caught fire due to bad internal wiring (happened in 2008). Being out of the house at the time and when I came back I cried. I cried hard. The damage that can cause is catastrophic.
 
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TBH with you guys, i dont think i will ever try Water or LN2, as ive seen several train wrecks occur with peoples machines. I did come to a conclusion during the winter the windows open the cold air keeps the CPU, motherboard and video card extremely cool, Im thinking myself running a Mini AC system.
 
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I was also thinking about doing that, cable managemente will be better, though i think my HX1000 will bent that plate, so i might need supporters
 
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If i would have spent the like 24 bucks to get some quick disconnects i would have loved water cooling but i was to cheap. Instead i went with phase. Let me tell you, insulating is a MUST and you better had make it good. Which i did, thing is, idk how my 2 ram slots died. I know somebody who has been on phase 24/7 for over 2 years on the same hardware so i know its possible. Phase is also alot easier than water because its simple to take apart and whatnot. But if your not careful it can seriously damage some parts without you even knowing it.

I like air because you cant really go wrong with it and its alot easier to work around than water.

As for the PSU all he did was turn the plate upside down and screwed in his PSU. I thought of doing that but was also afraid my PSU would bend the plate.
 

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But, water is less Problematic then Ln2 :D

Actually the time spent prepping the system for LN2 would be same or less then the time spent setting up WC. Phase beats everything overall, hit a switch and off it goes.
 
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If water is done right the first time it's very reliable. Quick disconnects are a must. Compression fittings seal the best with the nasty looks of clamps. I will use water again, but for now air is doing a great job, better actually.
 
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Actually the time spent prepping the system for LN2 would be same or less then the time spent setting up WC. Phase beats everything overall, hit a switch and off it goes.

I'm not talking via time.. I'm talking more of the "long run"..

A water loop you test right out of the case, or without the system in there.. If leak, you can fix... Once fixed.. your good to go until something goes wrong.

LN2/phase you gotta worry about if you prep right in order not to "kill" the system while trying to do so..

Air would be the best via "problematic" but to me, I haven't been bit in the behind with water yet.. lol

Your right on the aspects of time.. I'm just not talking about aspect.. I'm more on whats going to be down the road..
 

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I see, well IMO LN2 and dice don't even count as anything that can run for a day to day setup.

Phase can be used, I wouldn't recommend using cascade phase, but single stage phase is fine for day to day usage. Just get one with a smaller 1/3hp compressor and tune it for high heat load. A water chiller is enough good sub room temp cooling method. But then you have the problems of water cooling + phase change problems. Not hard to insulate everything up once you'v done it once or twice.
 
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I see, well IMO LN2 and dice don't even count as anything that can run for a day to day setup.

Phase can be used, I wouldn't recommend using cascade phase, but single stage phase is fine for day to day usage. Just get one with a smaller 1/3hp compressor and tune it for high heat load. A water chiller is enough good sub room temp cooling method. But then you have the problems of water cooling + phase change problems. Not hard to insulate everything up once you'v done it once or twice.
Yea i find phase to be the best cooling solution after air where not having troubles are concerned. I went back to air because i have no way of bolting phase to my case and i attend LANs alot.

Only down draw with phase is you have to be brave enough to take that chance.
 

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I see, well IMO LN2 and dice don't even count as anything that can run for a day to day setup.

Phase can be used, I wouldn't recommend using cascade phase, but single stage phase is fine for day to day usage. Just get one with a smaller 1/3hp compressor and tune it for high heat load. A water chiller is enough good sub room temp cooling method. But then you have the problems of water cooling + phase change problems. Not hard to insulate everything up once you'v done it once or twice.

If you got the money.. Maybe LN2/DICE would be in the budget.. But, if you had that $$$, I'd suggest spending it on one thing via computers.. Powerbill for Folding/crunching.. But, that's myself.

I'm with you on phase.

PP I bet MM can say you got the "balls" :D
 

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I never had a problem going to LANs with water. It was the phase that was a pain in the ass. First it took half my desk and theres no way i would take it to a LAN. I got rid of water cause i just didnt want to mess with it anymore. Air cooling is so much easier to take stuff apart and change parts.

You guys and your fancy air coolers talking about how great air is after I spend a few hundred on water... And have this break... First break on 5/8"



2nd break on 1/2 "



Moral of story is, don't use plastic barbs and if you water cool, you better have shiz that's going to last a while because tearing this system apart two times since initial water cooling install is all I will bear. If this thing drips again, some stuff's going on the fs forum.:mad:
 

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