You're gonna need a bigger storage drive!

[Durvelle27]

My case is on top of my desk, so it's quite close to me. I hear them every time they spool up, but once they're working you don't really notice them as much.

My pc is also on my desk less than a foot away

 

[sepheronx]

Back in the day with consoles having the games load from the disk, may be ideal again. I would be OK with popping a disk in and playing a game on PC. But I know most love digital platforms these days but I guess I am just old school.

Plus I do not want to have to pay ridiculous amounts to get a massive ssd. Guess I gotta get a HDD now.

 

[silentbogo]

.... and just when I thought a 512GB SSD will solve my storage problems...
To be serious, it's getting out of hand. Every game comes bundled with uncompressed data, tons of debug/unused stuff & assets, 4K textures that look like resized SD textures, etc. etc. etc.
Friggin' Quake Champions which barely broke a dozen maps is 25GB, while still manages to look mediocre.... Almost all of my post-2014 purchases are 50+GB as well...
I haven't even touched Shadow of War yet, cause I don't have enough space for it (nearly 110GB now), and that's post-factum of me moving most of the work-related files to NAS...

I would be OK with popping a disk in and playing a game on PC.

Don't be too eager, it may soon be a hot-swappable read-only SATA SSD cartridge, or Sony may come back to the idea of proprietary variation of memory cards for quadruple price of retail ones.

 

[Rahnak]

My pc is also on my desk less than a foot away

Did some googlin', apparently my HDD is about 41 dBs loud (from an old Tom Hardware's review, it seems its about on average for the time) while modern HDD are around the 28 dB mark, and some very high capacity ones even dip to the low 20s. Pretty impressive.

Regardless, I'm planning to replace it with a 1TB SDD. A Samsung QVO or something like that.

 

[sepheronx]

.... and just when I thought a 512GB SSD will solve my storage problems...
To be serious, it's getting out of hand. Every game comes bundled with uncompressed data, tons of debug/unused stuff & assets, 4K textures that look like resized SD textures, etc. etc. etc.
Friggin' Quake Champions which barely broke a dozen maps is 25GB, while still manages to look mediocre.... Almost all of my post-2014 purchases are 50+GB as well...
I haven't even touched Shadow of War yet, cause I don't have enough space for it (nearly 110GB now), and that's post-factum of me moving most of the work-related files to NAS...


Don't be too eager, it may soon be a hot-swappable read-only SATA SSD cartridge, or Sony may come back to the idea of proprietary variation of memory cards for quadruple price of retail ones.

I cant imagine that being economical. I know memory is getting cheaper and cheaper but Blu ray disks are significantly cheaper to produce. Hence why the old cartridge gaming systems became a thing in the past with the N64 being last (well, if you ignore the Game Card from Switch, which still has only maximum 64gb of memory). The Blu Ray disk can have upwards to 300gb of data.

But this is just out of this world the amount of data it is required for these new games.

 

[Rahnak]

Sony will be using a 4K blu-ray drive and 100GB discs on the upcoming PS5. And apparently you'll also be able to pick what components of a game you want to install (just single or multi player, maybe other things). That would be neat to have on the PC as well. Don't make 1080p players install higher res assets by default and vice versa.

 

[64K]

I had a WD Caviar Black that made a lot of noise in my last rig. I just tune out fan and HDD noise now.

 

[Ferrum Master]

I hate mechanical drives because of noise... also the lag they introduce when they spin up from sleep.

I have left one in my shelf where I sometimes dump my backup stuff, I do it in the cloud and also on the HDD.

1TB SSD's aren't that costly anymore... cut it out... I got mine for 100€, I've bought more expensive hard drives in the past...

 

[potato580+]

I had a WD Caviar Black that made a lot of noise in my last rig. I just tune out fan and HDD noise now.

i dont even bother with rig noise, i jist plug headset nor raise the volume of my speaker, simple done to get rid annoying noise

Sony will be using a 4K blu-ray drive and 100GB discs on the upcoming PS5. And apparently you'll also be able to pick what components of a game you want to install (just single or multi player, maybe other things). That would be neat to have on the PC as well. Don't make 1080p players install higher res assets by default and vice versa.

yes agree 1080p alr good even on 30inch+, unless you need to enjoy large size display output and sit on the corner

 

[Frick]

Or you stick to good games. /joke

 

[skizzo]

I didn't get it either but assumed it's an idiom, or slang, or whatever you'd call it.

Anyway, yeah, storage is pretty cheap and it's just progress. There was a time when a game would fit on a floppy disk.
I feel for people with slow internet though, downloading those games could take days. Internet speeds vary a lot and while there are many people with gigabit lines nowadays, lots of regions are way behind. I'm curious to see if satellite constellations will eventually help with that.

this!!!!!!

I can deal with using multiple SSDs and HDDs for game storage.....

HOWEVER, it is excruciatingly painful to download a 110GB game on a friggin 6Mb/s DSL connection....which my ISP "Frontier" seriously caps at 3.6Mb/s (don't get me started on that absurd business practice, it is at its best, highly unethical and purposely misleading to customers to pay for X yet have the company deliver less than X) . That shitty deal is $60/month. The fastest the offer in my area is 12Mb/s and its obviously more, and who knows what kinda speeds that plan is actually capped to, prolly something like 6.9 Mb/s if I had to guess. I am in Central New York in a "backwoods" area.....so I really dont have other options besides insane prices for satellite which has data charges, f that

This is even more annoying for apps and software. My setup is an audio and gaming workstation and downloading 300GB+ sound libraries for a drum machine for example is something that literally takes like 6 days of leaving the computer on constantly. I'm not that kinda guy, I like to shut it down when I'm not actually using it. So as far as I am concerned, It is still like ordering a CD copy through the mail as far as how long it takes for the download compared to shipping time

 

[Ahhzz]

Getting a bit far afield. Keep it on topic, please.

 

[GamerGuy]

All that storage and no p%$n storage

That's what my external HDDs are for!

And to show you I ain faking it, here's a shot of my Ryzen rig with the two SSD's

 

[silentbogo]

I cant imagine that being economical.

I was just sarcastically joking, but on a serious note - totally feasible. 100GB BDXL has the same price/GB as an average 3D TLC SSD. If someone like Sony choses to make cheap-ass read-only solid state media, it's going to be a lot cheaper than retail SSDs, cause they can simply use low-end discards from SSD/UFS manufacturing, set it up as WORM storage and use for games and multimedia. Ridiculous, but totally realistic. Plus 300GB Blu-ray has been announced back in 2016 and still hasn't been released to the market, so don't hold your breath on that one at least for another console gen.

 

[Roddey]

I delete the games when done. 2tb of storage is to much in my case. Of course if steam ever goes belly up I have days of downloads ahead of me.

 

[phill]

That's what my external HDDs are for!

And to show you I ain faking it, here's a shot of my Ryzen rig with the two SSD's

Never even doubted it I possibly have a few Tb's of space in SSDs here but they would be over like 12 or so SSDs not 2

 

[Toothless]

I'm sitting here with like, 6 spinners in my rig with another two external spinners that all aren't audible due to usage and/or my case being super great on sound. With RAID0 HDDs I think I'm good with games on loads and at 9.5TB-ish I'm good with games even hitting 150GB sizes. HDDs are getting cheap now and there isn't really an excuse for running out of storage unless you're flat broke or out of spots in your case or board.

 

[The Egg]

QLC drives are perfect for games storage. They still have excellent read speeds, and game-usage rarely involves any meaningful writes beyond initial install. Current popular models like the 660p and 860 QVO can be had for $100-110 per TB. Nowhere near mechanical drives, but those are 64-layer QLC. Newer 96-layer models should be incoming soon, and 144-layer has been announced by Intel (possibly others).

$/TB should drop substantially in the next year or two, and you could see typical capacities double.

 

[biffzinker]

Of course if steam ever goes belly up I have days of downloads ahead of me.

Have a dedicated 3 TB external just for backing up games from Steam, and GOG.

 

[hat]

Back in the day with consoles having the games load from the disk, may be ideal again. I would be OK with popping a disk in and playing a game on PC. But I know most love digital platforms these days but I guess I am just old school.

Plus I do not want to have to pay ridiculous amounts to get a massive ssd. Guess I gotta get a HDD now.

That would be... terrible. Even blu-ray has shit sustained read speeds compared to a hard drive, nevermind access time. Also, 4TB hard drives can be had for less than $100. If you want to be cost effective and have a ton of storage, you could set up a 2x4TB RAID 0 array... or pay a small chunk more for a 3x4TB RAID 5 array, if you want redundancy in the event your games drive asplodes.

And a 2TB SSD can be had for about $200. Granted it won't go very far with the size of today's largest AAA games, so the price on that is still a bit meh. You can do the 8TB RAID 5 array for just a bit more.

 

[sepheronx]

That would be... terrible. Even blu-ray has shit sustained read speeds compared to a hard drive, nevermind access time. Also, 4TB hard drives can be had for less than $100. If you want to be cost effective and have a ton of storage, you could set up a 2x4TB RAID 0 array... or pay a small chunk more for a 3x4TB RAID 5 array, if you want redundancy in the event your games drive asplodes.

And a 2TB SSD can be had for about $200. Granted it won't go very far with the size of today's largest AAA games, so the price on that is still a bit meh. You can do the 8TB RAID 5 array for just a bit more.

I'm talking general cause most common person won't be having that kind of storage nor capabilities to run raid. Let alone I run a itx system and build most of my setups in sff so no room for all those drives anyway. But yes, they would be faster than disk.

 

[Vayra86]

You don't need a bigger storage drive. You just need to not hoard unused game installs.

Some of you act like babies are slain every time you download a game again... when in reality the moment you pick up any somewhat recent game you'll be installing patches regardless. And if its about your old library... those you can easily fit on disk because they weren't so large. The newer console ports... most of them are barely replayable to begin with, so just delete them when you're done

Seriously for the last twenty years I've never had a storage issue when it comes to games... no several TBs worth of space required at any time.

 

[hat]

I'm talking general cause most common person won't be having that kind of storage nor capabilities to run raid. Let alone I run a itx system and build most of my setups in sff so no room for all those drives anyway. But yes, they would be faster than disk.

Anyone with multiple drives can RAID. There's usually an onboard RAID controller, and even if there's not, Windows can do software RAID. That's a minor point though... my main point was that hard drives are much larger and faster than optical discs without costing very much.

 

[kapone32]

You don't need a bigger storage drive. You just need to not hoard unused game installs.

Some of you act like babies are slain every time you download a game again... when in reality the moment you pick up any somewhat recent game you'll be installing patches regardless. And if its about your old library... those you can easily fit on disk because they weren't so large. The newer console ports... most of them are barely replayable to begin with, so just delete them when you're done

Seriously for the last twenty years I've never had a storage issue when it comes to games... no several TBs worth of space required at any time.

People do things the way they want to. I see what you are saying but I do the following. If i am not playing a game I move it to my HDD. New games that I play a ton of go into my NVME storage. Games that I am waiting to play go into my SSD storage. One of the things for me is that I have Humble Monthly which drops about 300 to 400 GB of games each month. Epic gives away free games every week that need to be downloaded somewhere. Storage is inexpensive currently though and the myriad of options is nothing but good for the consumer.

 

[yotano211]

All that storage and no p%$n storage

Some of us use the cloud for the important stuff.

People do things the way they want to. I see what you are saying but I do the following. If i am not playing a game I move it to my HDD. New games that I play a ton of go into my NVME storage. Games that I am waiting to play go into my SSD storage. One of the things for me is that I have Humble Monthly which drops about 300 to 400 GB of games each month. Epic gives away free games every week that need to be downloaded somewhere. Storage is inexpensive currently though and the myriad of options is nothing but good for the consumer.

The the epic weekly free games, I just add it to the epic account and dont download it.