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YouTube Red 3 month free trial a scam?

Discussion in 'Networking & Security' started by Frag Maniac, Oct 12, 2017.

  1. StrayKAT

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    It never said they had an "anti-diversity" policy. He was complaining that it lacked diversity of thought -- diversity in everything except conservatives. He was in fact speaking for others -- the conservatives in the company who were afraid. Many have spoken out since under anonymity.
     
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    youtube red not worth it. the end. for discussion on conspiracy and other matters please move to reddit for better debate. I believe this thread is gonna get mopped up real soon,
     
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    Screw Reddit. :p I'm finished anyways.
     
  4. Frag Maniac

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    Agree, this is not intended to be a MSM debate. It's just about YouTube Red and Google whom runs it.

    Thanks for all the responses, but let's not go off the rails here. BTW, just chatted with an airhead named Kelly on the Google Play site whom I had to explain to several times that this so called free 3 month trial lacks free content Spotify has all the time.

    The funniest part was when I caught her slipping up between insisting I hadn't logged into to Google Play, then diverting to YouTube Red saying it's primarily for no ads and background music on that service. Wondering if she's going to get reprimanded for that.
     
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    I have YouTube red and have had it for about a year and I love it...
    It includes unlimited Google play music and is 100% commercial free.
    As far as content... There is more than you think... Not everything is advertised...
    Some HBO shows show up after they air... Not sure if they are supposed to but they do.
     
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    The bolded is what I always assumed YouTube Red was good for, and never thought that was worth paying for. My wife might because she would love to turn off her phone's screen and stream all day long...thank goodness we have a 10GB data plan for her phone when she's not on WiFi. If she'd stick to Pandora and Plex we'd be fine...

    But $10/month for no ads and audio with screen off on mobile devices isn't worth it IMHO. Sounds like offline viewing is meh and unlimited access to Google Play Music is promising, but is it enough? I guess I'd have to take a closer look.

    ArsTechnica reviewed Red six months ago, and while initially they were impressed it sounds like long-term it wasn't worth it to them.

    https://arstechnica.com/staff/2017/...months-heres-why-i-cancelled-my-subscription/

    Looking at the fact it seems to be offering more than was offered back then, I still question the value of the service or in the case of the OP, the quality of customer service and follow through of providing paid/trial services.

    @jmcslob thanks for sharing some positive input on Red, it is good to know that some folks are enjoying it. How's it compare from when you started with it a year ago and now?
     
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    This was not my experience at all. The last thing I want to see when hoping to hear a higher bitrate version of a 2hr long album I've already listened to entirely on Spotify's free service is all tracks playing just sample length, and all albums, movies, etc showing prices. Sorry, but to me that IS advertising, and false advertising in how they describe the "free" trial.

    And yes, I HAD completed the sign up process which includes submitting your card number and clicking Buy, and I WAS logged in. Now I'm not totally sure it wasn't a glitch in their system, but based on the chat answers I got, I have no reason to believe it was.
     
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    googled the crap and got this :)


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    I Feel :) So 'ard done By who do i complain too :rolleyes:o_O:laugh:
     
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    LOL, more like a sneak tease at what you can't get.
     
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    The only issue I had was when I switched from individual to family... You have to cancel and then take the free trial again... But 6 months out of 12 being free isn't an issue I had a problem with.

    My experience has been nothing but positive.
    Sucks yours hasn't been but I really like what they offer.
     
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    it was legit and I did not get billed till last week.
     
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    Yeah, there is a difference between the terms "bad deal" and "scam" people... they seem to be getting confused here.

    Bad deals are just that, bad deals.

    Scams siphon your money to a fake Nigerian Prince (or a real one... does it matter, really?).
     
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    Too many off-topic discussion/banter, will be forced to close this if it continues.
     
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    Who would use this? All it is is Ad-less and nothing more or am I wrong
     
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    Then youre doing something wrong. I have a YTRed sub and I can get unlimited music streams of full songs/albums. Example: I can stream and listen to as much full length music of say One More Light by Linkin Park with no issues.
     
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    Yes.. Google play music is included.. The entire library, less new releases for 30 days, some content" on YouTube and "some other content on YouTube.... And no commercials.
     
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    It is a scam because you don`t have access to all of the videos, at least I didn`t have. Generally, I don`t support youtube red at all, because it is said that it's not good for the creators at all. I don`t mind the ads I just skip them, so I don`t really care. For me the whole thing was useless.
     
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    I skip them so well though if I get an Ad that's 2M (which rarely happens) I just refresh my page though in the future I assume YouTube will know what you're doing and just redo the Ad. But now I'm OK with ads 30s
     
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    As far as I know, you get access to YT red with your subscription to Google music. And Google music is a very sound proposition to people who want their music legally. Yes, I know about Spotify and iTunes, but GM is still a very fine solution. Anyhow, I didn't even know YT red existed. I am not sure what "extras" does it bring. Its got it's own shows and stuff, but nothing to get your panties in a twist IMO.
     
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    I don't doubt you get the full music library with a paid subscription to Google Play, but again, with this so called "free trial" of YT Red that's supposed to include Google Play, all I was met with were sample length tracks and prices for albums and tracks. That's not free. I've also yet to see anyone prove that the way YT Red's trial currently works includes their full library of music free.

    And I'll add that this clearly isn't about just copyrights and licensing. If Spotify can offer Tom Petty's full Anthology album free all the time, there's no reason whatsoever Google should be charging for it and offering only sample length tracks for free, and they only offer free samples on about half the album.

    Sorry, but it's obvious to me Google are greedy fucks that will cash in wherever they can.
     
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    Yup they have that.
    You can even download it for when you're not online...add it to your library etc... As long as you pay you can listen to whatever.

    I have the family plan... YouTube has plenty of kids stuff like Peppa pig and Thomas the train... And not the bad copy stuff...
    The original stuff sucks... But again "other stuff" shows up in the search that don't normally show up.
     
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    That only verifies what I and many others have been saying, you have to pay for it. That whole album can be played free on Spotify, without even giving them your card number. With Google you can't even listen to it free after signing up for a so called free trial of YT Red.

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    I'm sorry but if you still can't see the difference I think the Kool-Aid has taken effect. :rolleyes:

    I had a music streaming service when they first became popular. It was called MusicMatch, and it had one of the bigger databases for it's time. It was bought by YahooMusic, increased quite a bit in database, and I was grandfathered in at a low $6 a month price (normally $12).

    However when free services like Pandora, Slacker, Spotify, and numerous others sprang up, I saw no point in paying for a service that was only 160Mb. Things have changed quite a bit. Most people don't see it as a good value anymore to be paying $10 or more a month for music you can get free.

    Free internet music is an acceptable compromise between free FM radio and paid subscription services, and quite a step up from the former. You can create your own music channels based on any artist, artists, albums or songs you choose. You can select favorite tracks on albums. Sure it will toss in like artists in between your fave artists, but I find that just adds variety and makes it less monotonous. Spotify however is pretty good at offering complete albums of many bands.

    Quite frankly, with the advent of free internet music services, I don't know how FM radio stations can even stay in business. Many of them haven't actually.
     
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    Well somebody has to pay...
    I'm cool with paying because it supports the people that produce all that wonderful music.
    $15 (family plan-5 devices) a month is a steal as far as I'm concerned.

    BTW on the family plan you also have access to the music, movies and games library of anyone on the plan...

    Honestly I like no commercial YouTube the most..
    I know not everyone is in the position to pay or they don't care about adverts and that's ok too....
    I really think something just glitched with your account....

    I know on the Xbone I do have to restart it once in awhile or YouTube forces you to do a second device login or watch commercials... Usually have to do a reboot once a week.
     
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    Actually, now that you've verified your music is costing you $15 a month, I don't think anything glitched. I really don't get why they even say a free trial of YT Red includes Google Play access, even if they mean just access to the database, vs free streaming, because considering they're selling GP as a subscription service, you'd think they'd offer access to it at any time for those wanting to buy music off it.

    As for YT Red, although I DO hate the ads, I find all I ever have to do is disable annotations and then just click once to close the ad, then the whole video runs ad free after that. Yes, the more popular ones also have a commercial intro you can disable after 5 sec, but the entire ads are never actually forced on you. At most you're waiting 6 sec to get past them, and it takes half that long just to go fullscreen and select res.

    Aside from that the content YT Red supposedly adds is not worth watching. Much of it is a lot of older videos that are low res that happen to be of certain bands and such. In fact since they've heavily monetized YT, I can't even find most of the good concert footage I've seen before, whether using regular YT or YT Red.

    DOES somebody have to pay for it to support these bands, no. These bands still get tons of money from concert tours and album sales. Google gets most of the money from this service, not the bands. They are like glorified music studios, which in the music industry are akin to game publishers, and the worst part of it.
     
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    Ive paid for youtube red since it came out, for me its worth it for no ads and access to the “Red” content.
     
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