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Z370 details leak, interim chipset for Coffee Lake

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#1
Although this comes out of China, it looks like legit Intel slides that have leaked.

It looks like the Z370 chipset from Intel will be an interim solution for the first round of Coffee Lake processors.


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Feature wise it's not that different to the Z270 chipset, although it apparently supports "next gen" Optane memory if anyone cares.

The rest of the 300-series chipsets that are coming sometime in 2018 look somewhat more interesting, as you'll get support for up to six native USB 3.1 10Gbps ports, support for integrated Wi-Fi in some SKUs, as well as a quad core programmable audio DSP that apparently comes with an open firmware SDK.

Disappointingly Coffee Lake doesn't support HDMI 2.0 without a third party LSPCON, much like what Gigabyte put on some of their Z170 motherboards and then promptly forgot to support.

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An updated roadmap from the second week of June was also posted, but it doesn't really hold any big surprises.

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Source: http://bbs.pceva.com.cn/thread-140322-1-1.html
 
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And AGAIN 2 core Chips for Coffee Lake-S witch Cannon Lake PCH. Who needs them?
 
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New chipset every time they release new CPU. Intel, you suck at designing shit.
 

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New chipset every time they release new CPU. Intel, you suck at designing shit.
Have you not looked into AMD's recent stuff? FM1, FM2, FM2+ some only had one generation of CPU's on them.
 
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intel "because we can and you will still buy it"... if it performns like a 7700k im sticking with my raisin.
 
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And AGAIN 2 core Chips for Coffee Lake-S witch Cannon Lake PCH. Who needs them?
Pentium class cpus. 2-core 4 threads
 
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Honestly, the chipset is quite a mayor let down. I don’t give a sh*t about Optane, Audio DSP, or more USB 3.1 ports.
What I want is PCIe 4.0, native HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.4. Now it’s essentially a marginally upgraded Z270, which is already a marginally upgraded Z170.

Seeing as Cannonlake is being scheduled for Q1/18, and rumours about it requiring the x390 chipset, I wouldn’t really touch Coffee Lake.
At least till we know more about their 2018 plans.
 
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WTF? Well, there goes the idea of buying a 8700K this year.
 
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WTF? Well, there goes the idea of buying a 8700K this year.
This is what put me off upgrading to Intel. But I will spout venom and vitriol if any Zen refresh (node or otherwise) gets a new chipset too. I was banking (almost literally, due to savings) on AMD sticking with the x370 platform for a few years.
 
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Yeah, but AMD chipset series designations generally consist of different printing on the box. hehe.
 
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Yeah, but AMD chipset series designations generally consist of different printing on the box. hehe.
and new stickers for the pcb xD
 
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And AGAIN 2 core Chips for Coffee Lake-S witch Cannon Lake PCH. Who needs them?
Well... buying a CPU is a great idea if you want to build a PC. It's not that great if you want to make a cheese sandwich.

Is this answer sufficient?
This is what put me off upgrading to Intel. But I will spout venom and vitriol if any Zen refresh (node or otherwise) gets a new chipset too.
It will. :)
Honestly, the chipset is quite a mayor let down. I don’t give a sh*t about Optane, Audio DSP, or more USB 3.1 ports.
What I want is PCIe 4.0, native HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.4. Now it’s essentially a marginally upgraded Z270, which is already a marginally upgraded Z170.
Have you considered a possibility that this is not a product for you? :)

Actually the platform's specs look pretty fantastic. I really hope I won't get a new PC at work before this is released. :-D
 
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i have no idea what they mean like Cannon lake PCH is it 10nm or what, how is this a thing.. Unlike this there is no such thing as Sandy bridge PCH, there was Cougar Point PCH.

I think the only thing it can mean that is the chipset is integrated into the socket next to the CPU like Cannon lake + PCH on-chip. as opposed to onboard on the motherboard itself. The CPU and the PCH becomes one and only and inseparable.
 
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It means that the Z370 is a relabelled version of the Z270 and the new chipsets only arrives next year.
 
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Well, I already made the jump and I guess I won't be missing much... :)
However, looking at the new features (wifi, SDXC C10 states....Optane is a gimmick) it is relevant for my interests, professionally. Though I'm sad there is no Turbo 3.0 in this round.
Have you not looked into AMD's recent stuff? FM1, FM2, FM2+ some only had one generation of CPU's on them.
From FM1 to FM2, while yes it proves your point, it was an arch change, which is understandable.
FM2 to FM2+ was more like AM2 to AM2+ and AM2+ to AM3 (but narrower model compatibility). The only let down was that FM3 never came to fruition and/or Bristol Ridge never made it to FM2+, which made jumping to FM2+ boards a dead-end. (and I was one of many walking that path)
And I'm still convinced FM2+ chips could work in FM2 with minor limitations (i.e. no PCI-e 3.0), unless the IGP change from VLIW to GCN meant a completely different pin-out (must have, but I didn't search for documentation on that).
 

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From FM1 to FM2, while yes it proves your point, it was an arch change, which is understandable.
FM2 to FM2+ was more like AM2 to AM2+ and AM2+ to AM3 (but narrower model compatibility). The only let down was that FM3 never came to fruition and/or Bristol Ridge never made it to FM2+, which made jumping to FM2+ boards a dead-end. (and I was one of many walking that path)
And I'm still convinced FM2+ chips could work in FM2 with minor limitations (i.e. no PCI-e 3.0), unless the IGP change from VLIW to GCN meant a completely different pin-out (must have, but I didn't search for documentation on that).
Same arguments could be made for each of Intel's updates.
 
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