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Today NVIDIA launches their new GeForce 9800 GTX cards. Like many products in the GeForce 8 Series they are based on the G92 graphics processor. This is also the reason why there are no real technological innovations on this $299 card.

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$329 USD + Shipping on Newegg >.> Not $299.99!
 

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Excellent review, as always W1zz. You have 2 8800GTX's listed for idle in power consump., so one of them s/b the 9800 I think.;)

Edit: Also, dont forget to DIGG people!
 
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W1zzard you know that cat 8.3 isnt the best driver for 3DMark 8.2 is cuz for you old cpu you got 10k on the 3870X2 now its 9K with the E8400 @ 3.6 :ohwell: nice review :toast:
 
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what is 3dmark 8.2??

In any case, W1z do you know if this card can be over clocked by increasing the PCIe frequency?
 

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I was going to ask about this, how he managed to get 9k in 3dmark 2006, My C2D @ 3.4Ghz I get 15.2 with 8.3, SM2 7K and SM3 8K.
Vista 32 or 64 SP1, with a P5B DLX.
 

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In any case, W1z do you know if this card can be over clocked by increasing the PCIe frequency?
Was thinking that too, but I figured since its a G92 based card (vs the 9600's G94), thought it wouldnt be an issue here.
 
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Was thinking that too, but I figured since its a G92 based card (vs the 9600's G94), thought it wouldnt be an issue here.
From what I've seen it's not about the gpu but how the PCB is constructed that allows the use of the PCIe frequency to OC the GPU.
 
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OMg, Is the worst review of techpowerUp... 3870X2 Alien performance, lost for 9600GT!! Unreal scores!! KKKKKKK
 

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OMg, Is the worst review of techpowerUp... 3870X2 Alien performance, lost for 9600GT!! Unreal scores!! KKKKKKK
If your talking about the Crysis performance, ATI is hurting with that game since it's release. It was developed with Nvidia and ATI is still working on drivers. With new cards, some games can run poorly - look at Quake 4 - at the higher resolutions, Nvidia looks like crap. It's just drivers. Overall the comparisons look reasonable, though.
 
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this has to be confusing for consumers. The 8800GTX has the muscle to outperform the 9800GTX. I'm not saying the 8800 is a better buy, as the price to performance favors the newer card, but the naming scheme has gotten out of hand.

Also i find it hard to see who would buy this card when the 9900 series is rumored for release in July. Its just bad timing on Nvidia's part and I think they are quickly revising the 9800 for competition against ATI/AMD's 4000 series.
 

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Also i find it hard to see who would buy this card when the 9900 series is rumored for release in July. Its just bad timing on Nvidia's part and I think they are quickly revising the 9800 for competition against ATI/AMD's 4000 series.
Yeah, but you could also say who would buy an ATI card right now when the HD4xxx is supposed to be out around July also. It's just they are both bringing out cards at a fast pace. The question is do you want/need an upgrade now, or can you wait. There is always something new on the horizon.
 

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thats the second set of numbers behind the core name the 9800GX2 is a G92-450 the 9800GTX is a G92-420 and right now i can't find what the 8800GTS G92 is but its not a 420 :p
 

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There are two 8800 GTX 768M in the "System power consumption - Idle" sheet but the 9800GTX is missing, I think it's the first "8800 GTX" with 159W. :)

Also this is the first Review I found showing the 9800 GTX with lower peak power consumption in comparsion with the 8800 GTS 512, maybe those were mixed up too?
 
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Is anyone else kinda sickened by the fact that its 2% worse than the 8800GTX? Not counting that its cheaper tho :p
 

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If your talking about the Crysis performance, ATI is hurting with that game since it's release. It was developed with Nvidia and ATI is still working on drivers. With new cards, some games can run poorly - look at Quake 4 - at the higher resolutions, Nvidia looks like crap. It's just drivers. Overall the comparisons look reasonable, though.
thats what makes this market so crappy, cause developers go with one hardware maker without even attempting to make compatibility with the other, i swear Nvidia is paying Game Creators to create games for their hardware specifically, and making it run like crap on the other side.
 
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This reminds me of the crap intel is pulling with the E3110/ E8400, Asus and the maximus formula / Rampage and now the 8800gts /9800gtx. Atleast this card is somewhat physically different than the 8800gts.
 
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Is anyone else kinda sickened by the fact that its 2% worse than the 8800GTX? Not counting that its cheaper tho :p
I don't think it is when both are overclocked.
 

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I don't think it is when both are overclocked.
no kidding cause they are getting what 800+ out of the 9800GTX lets see that on a 880GTX :p
 

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eVGA is selling theirs for $349.99! What does that mean for me? It means a $10 step-up to a 9800GTX from my 8800GTS! You can't beat that price.

$329 USD + Shipping on Newegg >.> Not $299.99!
The MSRP is set to be between $299 and $349, which is what W1z lists. He went with the low number. The cards always go for more the first few weeks they are released. Any way you look at it, $50 is a decent price to upgrade to the 9800GTX over the 8800GTS.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_9800_GTX/images/front.jpg

This is just a G92 8800GTS with a upgraded power filtering system that is useless on such a low power consuming card..
Really, because the overclocking numbers are are a lot better than my 8800GTS could ever dream of hitting.
 
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might aswell wait for the 9900 newtechie
 
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So it used to be you would get twice the horsepower when going up a Generation of card, but now you get the same performance but twice the value for money...

8800gtx - $800
9800GTX - $400 new (AUS)

I wonder if they were planning on releasing the 9800GTX with a $800 price tag and realised hey... this thing isn't even as fast as the old 8800GTX... haahaaa.

Man they are really struggling to make faster gfx cards these days :)