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Zotac's GeForce RTX 2070 AMP Extreme is the highest-clocked RTX 2070 card out there, and its memory is overclocked, too. This results in 7% higher performance than the Founders Edition, which is finally a meaningful increase for an out-of-the-box overclock on GeForce 20.

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Consider the base level 2070 should be MSRP $499, this card should be marked close to $550. At its current price it is not worth it.
 
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First mining-related price hikes, now this... the GPU market has gone bonkers.
"Let's raise the price as much as possible, people will buy it anyway... WHAT CHOICE DO THEY HAVE?"

Intel will only produce a compute chip, AMD is also focused on compute only.
nVidia is sending prices through the Van-Allen belts.

We're screwed.

Guess I won't be buying a 4K display in the next... century.
 
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$640 and can't beat 1080 Ti.. and 3GB less VRAM. Yeah looks like an amazing deal. Not.

I bought my Vega 56 for £399 ($512), before the 20 series came out, got a Free game with it, and haven't even got a slightest bit of Buyer's remorse because the entire 20 series is just hilariously bad value.

This card is £570+ ($732) here from my favourite retailer and no free game. 42% more expensive and only ~20% faster than my 56. No thanks Zotac.

There are some AIB 2070s for £460~ here, these cards actually are pretty good value but still not enough to give me buyer's remorse lol.

Sorry I'm ranting, but I just don't like the 20 series at all.
 
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Thanks for the hard work @W1zzard , but that card is not worth in any scenario price/performance.
 
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$640 asking price is too much when its basically a non-FE card with higher memory clocks. For it to struggle in keeping up with the 1080Ti is to be expected but being ~15% faster than the 1080 on all benches in 4K is somewhat within margins of how much the xx70 series have improved over the previous generation.
 
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this card should be marked close to $550. At its current price it is not worth it.
There isn't a single RTX card worth what they're asking, not one.
 

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What is the point of reviewing different AIB's when the conclusion is pretty much the same on every card and they all get the same award? So there isn't any difference between a EVGA, MSI, ASUS card and you should just get one of them? Surely they are some differences between them?

And again how can RTX and DLSS still be considered a positive when nobody has tested it yet and nobody knows how "great" is gonna be? Atm it should be a negative since you can't test and it hasn't been available since launch 3 months ago?

And tbh the awards are kinda useless when 90% of all products reviewed on TPU is getting some kind of award.
 
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hey, at least tell the reviewers for taking their time in getting the review sample, unboxing it, test it thru its paces, tabulate the data & then publishes them for us end users to read up. Normie like you will never understand the lengths people in the tech industry go through just to inform the world whether the product they review make it or break it. Heck, I don't think you're gonna man up in reviewing a product that has garnered enough controversy in both tech industry & community.

Lastly, NOT ALL GPUs are made equal. There are differences down to the quality of the core, memory chips, VRMs etc. I can bet to you even if you ask TPU to bench TWO (2) identical GPUs on the same system, ran all the benches multiple times, the results WILL be different.
 

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And then how does all the cards get the same award then?
because all are unbelievably awesome for gaming? the differences are fairly small
 
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hey, at least tell the reviewers for taking their time in getting the review sample, unboxing it, test it thru its paces, tabulate the data & then publishes them for us end users to read up. Normie like you will never understand the lengths people in the tech industry go through just to inform the world whether the product they review make it or break it. Heck, I don't think you're gonna man up in reviewing a product that has garnered enough controversy in both tech industry & community.
What does that have to do with anything?

And by the looks of it, you don't think my questions are fair? So what was wrong with my questions?

because all are unbelievably awesome for gaming? the differences are fairly small
But then your metric is wrong then? Shouldn't the 2070 be judged against each other? So people buying 2070 can go on TPU and find out which 2070 is the best? Right now the reviews pretty much states that all the cards are "equal".
 

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hey, at least tell the reviewers for taking their time in getting the review sample, unboxing it, test it thru its paces, tabulate the data & then publishes them for us end users to read up. Normie like you will never understand the lengths people in the tech industry go through just to inform the world whether the product they review make it or break it. Heck, I don't think you're gonna man up in reviewing a product that has garnered enough controversy in both tech industry & community.
most people can't imagine the work involved. and then they start benching two or three titles (what no integrated benchmark?), and end up using 3dmark and unigine and call it a day.
 

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But then your metric is wrong then? Shouldn't the 2070 be judged against each other? So people buying 2070 can go on TPU and find out which 2070 is the best? Right now the reviews pretty much states that all the cards are "equal".
that is roughly correct. you can buy any 2070 and will have the best experience you ever had with a graphics card (except 2080 / 2080 ti).
do you prefer low noise? look for the low noise cards in our results. do you prefer lower temps? look for the cards that got lower temps. want the cheapest? go pick up the cheapest. how can i decide between just those three for you? what if you want the shiny looks of the founders edition? (which is really really good, too)
 
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well, you CAN find a card that has the following: the lowest noise, coolest running, & cheapest would be a "used" GT1030 :roll:
 

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that is roughly correct. you can buy any 2070 and will have the best experience you ever had with a graphics card (except 2080 / 2080 ti).
If you have a 1080/1080ti, then a 2070 wont give the "best experience you ever had", so Isn't that a wrong conclusion? If you have a "lower" card, then surely a upgrade to 2070 will give you a greater experience than previous. But you have to pay premium to get that experience. A 1080/1080ti(even used) will give you the same or better experience at the same cost or lower?

And like I wrote earlier I still don't get why RTX and DLSS can be listed as positive, when its a "unknown" feature.

most people can't imagine the work involved. and then they start benching two or three titles (what no integrated benchmark?), and end up using 3dmark and unigine and call it a day.
Tbf I wasn't questioning your method, but rather your conclusions.
 
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As I said before, Turing is a brand new architecture that hasn't gotten off its training wheels yet, like how Pascal did. In 2-3 years' time... ray tracing in games will be the new standard & older architectures like Pascal will no longer work properly with those games. Reason why Pascal is still relevant (for now) is its good traditional rasterization performance while Turing is still slightly at best in doing the same. When DXR & ray-tracing games starts coming out, don't say getting a used Pascal GPU is a "mistake" coz that's what folks like you said during RTX 20's launch day... The Internet never forgets.
 

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If you have a 1080/1080ti, then a 2070 wont give the "best experience you ever had", so Isn't that a wrong conclusion?
power/heat/noise should be better. plus rtx/dlss when it materializes. you are right of course that the wait for both is taking long, but too many factors at play here to blame a single party.

better experience usually comes with higher price, yes the cards are expensive. if you can't afford that organic buffalo burger you might just go to mcd and might still have a great taste experience. i even went to burger king two days ago and loved my burger
 
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there's ALWAYS a price to pay, whether its your life insurance or your mortgage.
 
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I've seen some valid and some non-valid claims on both sides of this argument.
Personally, i think that asking a 140$ premium over an already great 499$ card like the EVGA Black is absolutely going out of line.
This is both companies greed combined.

For the absolute most of users, both burgers are the same damn burger.
We have rarely seen these absurd kinds of premiums on 750$ cards before.

Slapping awards on products is not to serve readers, but companies, and a decent portion of the reason they send in hardware. It is the ugly naked truth and im fine with it, as long as we get some numbers along the way.
 

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plus rtx/dlss when it materializes. you are right of course that the wait for both is taking long, but too many factors at play here to blame a single party.
I agree and that is my point. :) I am not blaming NVIDIA for no RTX/DLSS games, but it shouldn't be listed as a positive when its not possible to test it? I would rather say its a negative that you pay a premium for features that aren't available yet.

When the features become relevant, then they might be a positive, but no one knows atm.

As I said before, Turing is a brand new architecture that hasn't gotten off its training wheels yet, like how Pascal did. In 2-3 years' time... ray tracing in games will be the new standard & older architectures like Pascal will no longer work properly with those games. Reason why Pascal is still relevant (for now) is its good traditional rasterization performance while Turing is still slightly at best in doing the same. When DXR & ray-tracing games starts coming out, don't say getting a used Pascal GPU is a "mistake" coz that's what folks like you said during RTX 20's launch day... The Internet never forgets.
I wanna buy your crystal ball. :)

In 2-3 years times these cards are outdated, so buying a 2070 for features that is "gonna be great in 2-3 years time" is a really bad argument. In 2-3 years time path-tracing might be the new norm and these cards won't be relevant anymore.
 

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Consider the base level 2070 should be MSRP $499, this card should be marked close to $550. At its current price it is not worth it.
I thought it should be marked close to $499 :D
And it would still hardly be worth the money.
 
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