Cooling 7800X3D with Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO and idle temp is around 60c. Is this normal?

[ManzoTheSaw]

 

[Event Horizon]

Phantom Spirit 120SE with a 7800X3D here. Idle temp is around 38c.

 

[OneMoar]

remove the plastic .... use thermal paste

 

[Space Lynx]

yeah something went wrong on your install

check the plastic has been removed from heatsink as said above

but also, when you go into screw the cooler, alternate your screws, so don't tighten one side entirely first...

take turns tightening both sides, so the pressure is more even, and yeah don't forget fresh thermal paste

be careful, read instructions, take your time

and report back if your temps improve

 

[Caring1]

Is that reading even correct, all the core temps are much lower.

 

[phanbuey]

looks like the motherboard sensor and the CPU die sensors are having a bit of a disagreement about the temperatures, or the hottest sensor is doing something weird..

Is your performance suffering in cinebench/CPU Z/timespy CPU etc? Usually a 60C idle will impact performance pretty noticeably - if it doesn't then it might just be one sensor reporting nonesense. If yes, and your performance is suffering, and the cooler is seated correctly I would send that CPU back if under warranty.

 

[Onasi]

I concur, this seems… weird. I would actually ignore the CPU temp here and go by the CCD one. Maybe try resetting the MoBo to see if it snaps it out of it.

 

[AleXXX666]

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"3D" bro, so it's fkin "normal"

 

[Vya Domus]

Is that reading even correct, all the core temps are much lower.

Tdie is always a fair bit higher than core temps, it's basically the hotspot of the entire CPU.

 

[ManzoTheSaw]

Thanks for all the advice everybody. I removed my cooler and cleaned off the paste, then I reapplied it with a pea dot and put everything back together. Unfortunately, the idle temp remained the same. I ordered some Thermal Grizzly paste and spatula to try again but this time I will spread out a layer and carefully screw the cooler back down. In the meantime I noticed that Windows Search Index kept popping up frequently so I stopped the process and restarted it. My idle temp went down to around 45c???? I'm not sure why that process kept spiking but fingers crossed because I much prefer 45c. I've seen lots of people say their idle is around 30c so I'd like to get it down to there but I won't complain about 45c. Perhaps another process is the culprit for 45c, I do have iCue running for my keyboard.

 

[Space Lynx]

Thanks for all the advice everybody. I removed my cooler and cleaned off the paste, then I reapplied it with a pea dot and put everything back together. Unfortunately, the idle temp remained the same. I ordered some Thermal Grizzly paste and spatula to try again but this time I will spread out a layer and carefully screw the cooler back down. In the meantime I noticed that Windows Search Index kept popping up frequently so I stopped the process and restarted it. My idle temp went down to around 45c???? I'm not sure why that process kept spiking but fingers crossed because I much prefer 45c. I've seen lots of people say their idle is around 30c so I'd like to get it down to there but I won't complain about 45c. Perhaps another process is the culprit for 45c, I do have iCue running for my keyboard.
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you screenshotted the wrong screen lol

also after looking over your temps, maybe you just aren't using enough paste? but also it shows your minimum idle temp was 42 celsius I think i read, which is actually normal idle temp for 7800x3d... now the image you shared also showed a current idle temp of 61 celsius, that is not normal if it is consistently that number, but it is normal for that number to spike to 61 when opening a program like hwinfo even, but it should have back down to low 40's idle within 30 seconds or so...


so... your idle temp might actually be ok to begin with, we just don't have enough data. also you may be using too little amount of paste. personally i use 3 long lines of paste spaced evenly, too much paste is better than too little.

 

[LabRat 891]

The 'hotspot' "Tctl" is reading high,
and the average across all the sensors in the die is also elevated above the CCDs' temps.
Peculiar.

You might have luck w/ a re-seat and re-application of TIM (use more than you're used to*).
*Ivy Bridge-backwards, I used to use a dot the size of a dehydrated pea. That is not okay on MCM CPUs. The whole IHS needs a decent thermal bond.

Firmware update and a re-seat w/ more TIM (+maybe one of those AM5 TIM guards?) would be the direction I'd start.
If after all that the Tctl is still high, check in a LiveBoot linux Distro (to make sure it's not a software mis-reading).

Edit: While the software is legitimately hated, I would give Ryzen Master a whirl, since it's (officially) the only software that'll accurately read Ryzen (IIRC).

 

[Space Lynx]

I take back what I said, opening HWinfo should not spike your temp to 61 celsius.

I just took this screenshot below... sorry OP, OP I recommend a thermalright contact frame, it basically acts like a TIM guard, I am using one, it was only $7 off amazon prime, and 3 lines of thermal paste one on left, middle, and right. i think too small of a pea dot on am5 design doesn't work well personally.