PCIe 5.0 M.2 SSDs

[Deleted member 237269]

All the current PCIe 5.0 SSDs i could find. Early 2023 it was a speed of 10000-12000MB/s and the second wave is coming with 14000-16000MB/s.
Are you using one despite the thermal issue ? Beside creators and professional using it for rendering 4K and 8k Photos and movies what is the use ? Does it really impact for the gaming ? Snake oil ?

Spoiler: PCIe 5.0 SSD

I’m happy with my NVMe M.2 PCle 4.0 Samsung 990 Pro 2To (7450/6900 MB/s).
I set it up on my Gen5 port of my motherboard. Is it silly or? It should be backward compatibility if I'm not mistaken ... Is there things that I am not aware of regarding reading and writing performance max ?

 

[TheLostSwede]

No issue to use an older PCIe device in a more modern interface, the other way around will slow down your device though.

Little to no benefit for most people unless you shuffle around a lot of large files on a regular basis.
The next set of controllers might improve somewhat on things, but we'll have to wait and see.
Technically it's the NAND that's the bottleneck and will continue to be the bottleneck with current technology.

 

[bonehead123]

Little to no benefit for most people unless you shuffle around a lot of large files on a regular basis.
Technically it's the NAND that's the bottleneck and will continue to be the bottleneck with current technology.

^^THIS^^

I am extremely happy with my WD SN850x's in my home & work rigs (both have Gen 4 slots), which perform very well for the stuff that I do....

However, I have built several Gen 5 rigs for several clients, who DO shuffle tons of large files around (they're content creators & CAD folks), and they said they immediately noticed the increased performance vs. their previous Gen 4 rigs that I built for them a few years ago

I can't comment on whether they have any effect on gammin performance, since I don't do that on my rigs...BUT, I am eagerly awaiting the next gen of controllers to see where things are headed before I start thinking of building new rigs for myself & family...

 

[chrcoluk]

For me there is no benefit, the storage vendors are focusing on the wrong thing at this point, gen 4 is plenty fast enough, now what we need is more capacity and an attitude fix on pricing.

 

[Hardcore Games]

Prices for SSD products continuers to decline. I still use an old Intel 512GB SSD,
30,000 hours later it still works fine

SSDPEMKF512G8

 

[TheLostSwede]

Prices for SSD products continuers to decline. I still use an old Intel 512GB SSD,
30,000 hours later it still works fine

SSDPEMKF512G8

You clearly haven't kept up then, as SSDs are getting more and more expensive right now. Still affordable, but nothing like this past summer.

 

[Hardcore Games]

I recently procured a WD SN350 SSD for an old Lenovo laptop I still use. Budget friendly SSD products are cheaper than ever.

 

[Tomgang]

Speaking of SSD. Yes SSD has become pretty cheap.

Today i just ordered a new old Crucial MX500 4 TB sata SSD (Why sata. I dont have any M.2 slots left) and a new WD Ultrastar 22 TB HDD, to full end my storage upgrade for my pc.
Total storage capacity is now up to 82 TB in total for my dual build. 6 SSD´s and and 4 HDD.

But yes M.2 SSD has come dowen in price to. I was surprised how low a Samsung 990 PRO 2 TB price was. I exspected it to be more exspensive than it was.

 

[chrcoluk]

Speaking of SSD. Yes SSD has become pretty cheap.

Today i just ordered a new old Crucial MX500 4 TB sata SSD (Why sata. I dont have any M.2 slots left) and a new WD Ultrastar 22 TB HDD, to full end my storage upgrade for my pc.
Total storage capacity is now up to 82 TB in total for my dual build. 6 SSD´s and and 4 HDD.

But yes M.2 SSD has come dowen in price to. I was surprised how low a Samsung 990 PRO 2 TB price was. I exspected it to be more exspensive than it was.

Checked just now the 990 Pro 2TB its about 1.5x the price it was in first week of January.

 

[Tomgang]

Checked just now the 990 Pro 2TB its about 1.5x the price it was in first week of January.

I cant say what launch price was, i was only randomly looking at its price while looking for that sata ssd i just ordered to day.

The crucial mx500 40 tb was only marginaly cheaper than a much faster Samsung 990 pro 4 tb nvme ssd. So with that in mind 990 pro would have been a better deal in my opinion.

Sadly i do not have more usable m.2 ports. All throw, i do have one PCIe gen 3 port on the back side of the motherboard thats the backbone of my mini-tx system. But there are no space for a heat sink of any kind and to use it, i have to disasemble the entire system to get access to that port. So a sata ssd was a more easy way despite sata kabel and power kabel needed.

 

[gurusmi]

Checked just now the 990 Pro 2TB its about 1.5x the price it was in first week of January.

Not in germany. 2nd of Jan the price for this device has been 174,90€. Since 3 days it is 167,90€. One year ago the price has been 265,99€.

Samsung SSD 990 PRO 2TB, M.2 2280 / M-Key / PCIe 4.0 x4 (MZ-V9P2T0BW) ab € 164,90 (2024) | Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

✔ Preisvergleich für Samsung SSD 990 PRO 2TB, M.2 2280 / M-Key / PCIe 4.0 x4 (MZ-V9P2T0BW) ✔ Bewertungen ✔ Produktinfo ⇒ Kapazität: 2TB (entspricht ca. 1862.65GiB bzw. 1.82TiB, weiterführende Informationen hierzu ) • Bauform: … ✔ Solid State Drives (SSD) ✔ Testberichte ✔ Günstig kaufen

geizhals.de

 

[evernessince]

The benefits of sequential read / write speed increases for games drops off a cliff after PCIe 3.0. Even the difference between PCIe 3.0 and SATA is minimal. Suffice to say for the average user PCIe 5.0 is not worth it right now.

 

[SPDIF]

The benefits of sequential read / write speed increases for games drops off a cliff after PCIe 3.0. Even the difference between PCIe 3.0 and SATA is minimal. Suffice to say for the average user PCIe 5.0 is not worth it right now.

And in another topic they complain that their PCIe 4.0 SSD is slow... They can see and feel it... It's terrible slow in IOPS and Random read and write...

 

[chrcoluk]

Not in germany. 2nd of Jan the price for this device has been 174,90€. Since 3 days it is 167,90€. One year ago the price has been 265,99€.

Samsung SSD 990 PRO 2TB, M.2 2280 / M-Key / PCIe 4.0 x4 (MZ-V9P2T0BW) ab € 164,90 (2024) | Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

✔ Preisvergleich für Samsung SSD 990 PRO 2TB, M.2 2280 / M-Key / PCIe 4.0 x4 (MZ-V9P2T0BW) ✔ Bewertungen ✔ Produktinfo ⇒ Kapazität: 2TB (entspricht ca. 1862.65GiB bzw. 1.82TiB, weiterführende Informationen hierzu ) • Bauform: … ✔ Solid State Drives (SSD) ✔ Testberichte ✔ Günstig kaufen

geizhals.de

The UK had it on a crazy deal it suddenly dropped for a couple of weeks, the price prior to that, is not much below what it is now, but because of that large dip, it makes it look horrid value now.

Also sorry it seems it was in November, Not January. I think this was when the UK was even cheaper than USA for the price, which is pretty rare for PC stuff.

 

[gurusmi]

In Germany and November the price has been 159,90 €.

 

[SPDIF]

Even lower here in Belgium, but the SSD with 4GB+ are now going up in price slowly, so i would advice anyone to buy now and don't wait any longer.

 

[Chris_Ramseyer]

The motherboard's heat spreader is fine for normal use with the 10GB/s, 12GB/s, and new 14GB/s drives. Some motherboards have better heatsinks and heat spreaders than others. One of my favorites right now is the Gigabyte Aorus Master. I also love the Asrock Gen5 boards. Some ship with a really nice active heatsink that is silent. You can also buy the same active heatsink as an aftermarket product for Asrock boards that ship with the passive heatsink.

ASRock > Blazing M.2 Gen5 Fan-Heatsink

 

[P4-630]

One of my favorites right now is the Gigabyte Aorus Master.

Great motherboard, I have the Z690...

 

[csendesmark]

All the current PCIe 5.0 SSDs i could find. Early 2023 it was a speed of 10000-12000MB/s and the second wave is coming with 14000-16000MB/s.
Are you using one despite the thermal issue ? Beside creators and professional using it for rendering 4K and 8k Photos and movies what is the use ? Does it really impact for the gaming ? Snake oil ?

Spoiler: PCIe 5.0 SSD

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I’m happy with my NVMe M.2 PCle 4.0 Samsung 990 Pro 2To (7450/6900 MB/s).
I set it up on my Gen5 port of my motherboard. Is it silly or? It should be backward compatibility if I'm not mistaken ... Is there things that I am not aware of regarding reading and writing performance max ?

I would be happy to see if SSD-s with 2 lane PCIe connectors get common, because that's means we can get away with less lanes dedicated to storage!

 

[GerKNG]

i have a B650E Board and zero interest in a Gen 5 SSD.
it does literally nothing for me and since i am not a file copy enthusiast... i rather spend my 180€ per TB on something else.

 

[SPDIF]

A gen 5 SSD, you wont notice any difference when working with your system or playing games. It's good for professional video or photo work, they really can use this. But for a gamer and home user... No not needed at all.
The only thing it's good for is sucking up Power and needs active cooling solution also. But again some Professionals can really use or need this.

And it's also good for Benchmark Fanboys... Some people buy a SSD to benchmark and test it all the time, to see if it writes or read's not go down.
They even want to RMA it if they see some days later a lower result... They even don't realize how much wear this causes every time. If you look to the SMART table after some benchmark tests, it's unbelievable how much GB was written again.

 

[kapone32]

Here is my take. I had a Seagate 530 2TB as my OS drive. I replaced that with the MP700. When I use it as an OS I noticed that Windows and all programs load faster and Windows definitely feels snappier. I have been using it for about 9 months now. The only issue is that the Temp is 50 C and can go as high as 64 C.

 

[Wirko]

And it's also good for Benchmark Fanboys... Some people buy a SSD to benchmark and test it all the time, to see if it writes or read's not go down.

When benchmarking becomes work, a faster SSD will help finish the work faster, and time is money!
(of course you have to choose benchmarks that write a fixed amount of data, not run for a fixed amount of time)

I would be happy to see if SSD-s with 2 lane PCIe connectors get common, because that's means we can get away with less lanes dedicated to storage!

You can't use the remaining two lanes for anything else. At least that's true for processor-bound PCIe 5.0 lanes of Core and Ryzen CPUs. That may change in the future, and maybe Samsung knows something that we don't know yet, but it's just a speculation.

 

[csendesmark]

When benchmarking becomes work, a faster SSD will help finish the work faster, and time is money!
(of course you have to choose benchmarks that write a fixed amount of data, not run for a fixed amount of time)


You can't use the remaining two lanes for anything else. At least that's true for processor-bound PCIe 5.0 lanes of Core and Ryzen CPUs. That may change in the future, and maybe Samsung knows something that we don't know yet, but it's just a speculation.

I know
Hopefully both the 2× SSD and 2× m.2 sockets get popular, for the next 3~4 years, until having 50+ PCIe lanes became standard.

 

[Hardcore Games]

While PCIe 5 devices are ramping up, faster PCIe 6 and 7 standards are good and PCIe 8 is in design.