Who makes a good inkjet printer?

Lazzer408 · Dec 14, 2011

I'm shopping for a home office all-in-one printer. I have an HP 8500 now (had good ratings) that has been -ok- when it works. This weekend I'll see how it likes ammonium nitrate but for now I have to deal with it's issues.

Here's what I need in a printer.

All-in-one.
Cheap ink.
Doesn't lock up.
Doesn't drop off the network.
Doesn't clean/align itself at 3AM. :banghead:

Doesn't clean/align itself when powered on. :banghead:

Doesn't take 5 minutes to clean/align itself. :banghead:

Holds at least 250 pages.
Has a dial pad for faxing.

I could care less how long it takes to print. 20 seconds, 5 seconds. Doesn't matter when it takes 5 minutes to turn on. How fast it gets online is more important to me then a few seconds saved on a printed page. Anyone have a printer that turns on quickly on and starts printing when they need it?

de.das.dude · Dec 14, 2011

NH4NO3 on a printer? Why?

Lazzer408 · Dec 14, 2011

Payback?

Munki · Dec 14, 2011

My suggestion to you is buy a laser printer. Inkjets are money pits.

Lazzer408 · Dec 14, 2011

That is an option. I have great luck with an old Dell laser I still use for text. Any suggestions?

Munki · Dec 14, 2011

SAMSUNG CLX-3185 MFC / All-In-One Up to 16 ppm in ...

This is what I have. It works well. Prints aren't super fast, but not inkjet slow. Quality is pretty good from what I have printed off from it.

EDIT: SAMSUNG CLX Series CLX-3185FW MFC / All-In-One Up ... <- has faxing

Lazzer408 · Dec 14, 2011

Is there a site that has a cost to page graph for printers?

Munki · Dec 14, 2011

I can't find a site, but I looked specifically for those I recommended it looked like between 7 Cents and 15Cents per page depending on useage

Lazzer408 · Dec 14, 2011

Any opinion on the newer Dell color laser printers?

DanishDevil · Dec 14, 2011

I think those Samsungs are the updated versions to the ones that my boss was selling quite a few of to customers. They were very pleased with them!

Lazzer408 · Dec 14, 2011

I'm boycotting Samsung due to them jacking me around on 3 TVs. All of them failed just out of warranty. Their support is aweful.

Dell on the other hand has bent over backwards to make me happy. That's why I'm looking into the Dell printers as as option. I'm not sure about HP, Epson, Brother, ect... Still reading. I'm not a big fan of HP's ethics over that whole DV series laptop ordeal. HP got the payout from nvidia but the customer didn't see much of it. They made more money selling broken crap and knew it. That and my HP printer sucks. Now that I think about it everything I've owned from HP has broken.

DanishDevil · Dec 14, 2011

Dell has bent over backwards to make me and my girlfriend's lives a living hell. I think everybody has their horror stories with any kind of tech support.

Steevo · Dec 14, 2011

Brother.
Brother MFC series MFC-J425w Up to 33 ppm 6000 x 1...

Then you can refill the ink, or you can buy cartridge packs, or you can use a black marker to lie to it and get all your ink out.

DRDNA · Dec 14, 2011

I think any of the Kodak hero printers are the best and hands down they have the most cost effective ink that does NOT fade in the retail market! KODAK AiO are the wisest choice based on consumables and quality of the prints. :toast:

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Oh yeah and Walmart sells them pretty cheap.

brandonwh64 · Dec 14, 2011

I use a brother MFC240 and I love it. I have had it for years and its quite and reliable! Only issue is that its not a network printer unless shared by a windows PC

Bo$$ · Dec 14, 2011

HP are pretty fine machines

Lazzer408 · Dec 18, 2011

Well, I went with the HP but bought the color laser one. CM1415fnw. Not for photos but it does a decent job. Text is very sharp.

(looks at watch) It's 2:52am and the printer is calibrating itself. >.< I set the correct time/date in the printers setup.

Yet another fail! Who's designing this crap?

jagjitnatt · Dec 18, 2011

Get a laser. Inkjets are good only if you print a couple of pages per week.

Laser will cover its cost within a year if your print volume is close to 100 pages per month.

Lazzer408 · Dec 18, 2011

jagjitnatt said:
Get a laser. Inkjets are good only if you print a couple of pages per week.

Laser will cover its cost within a year if your print volume is close to 100 pages per month.

Lazzer408 said:
Well, I went with the HP but bought the color laser one. CM1415fnw.

Missed that?

theubersmurf · Dec 18, 2011

jagjitnatt said:
Get a laser. Inkjets are good only if you print a couple of pages per week.

Laser will cover its cost within a year if your print volume is close to 100 pages per month.

Have to agree with the man, Toner is way cheaper per page. My old samsung laser is great, as long as it continues to print, I'll probably keep using it. The only drawback is no network printing.

Kantastic · Dec 18, 2011

Lazzer408 said:
Doesn't clean/align itself at 3AM.
Doesn't clean/align itself when powered on.
Doesn't take 5 minutes to clean/align itself.

I could care less how long it takes to print. 20 seconds, 5 seconds. Doesn't matter when it takes 5 minutes to turn on. How fast it gets online is more important to me then a few seconds saved on a printed page. Anyone have a printer that turns on quickly on and starts printing when they need it?

I have the Officejet Pro 8500 Wireless and it's the biggest piece of shit I've ever bought for all the reasons you listed above. I upgraded to it from an lower-end HP printer for essentially $50 after rebate/printer recycling at Staples, but every time I turn that thing on I wish I had my old printer back.

There needs to be a damn firmware hack or an available option to turn auto alignment off.

Lazzer408 · Dec 18, 2011

I was reading all the different yeild counts for various printers both inkjet and laser and it's not that simple. The coverage is supposed to be 5% and brand-X might yield 800pages@$35 for ink and brand-Z might yeild 2100 pages@$99 for toner.

If you do the math...
$35/800 = $.04375
$99/2100 = $0.0471428571

There's no real savings. That's just an example. Some were better, some were worse. It all depends on the models. Not brand specific either. To say that "laser is cheaper then ink" isn't true in every case.

Prints per month is a mute variable. Cost per page is. If I print 100 a month or 1000 a month, the cost per page is still the same.

I will say this though. The quality of laser printers today is crap compared to the ones $20 years ago. I have an old NEC superscript laser that works now and might work for another 20 years. $100 says this new one is dead within 2 years. That pretty much goes for everything these days. Everything is disposable.

Lazzer408 · Dec 18, 2011

Kantastic said:
I have the Officejet Pro 8500 Wireless and it's the biggest piece of shit I've ever bought for all the reasons you listed above. I upgraded to it from an lower-end HP printer for essentially $50 after rebate/printer recycling at Staples, but every time I turn that thing on I wish I had my old printer back.

There needs to be a damn firmware hack or an available option to turn auto alignment off.

I know. I don't understand why an inkjet printer would ever display "warming up". Does it have vacuum tubes for the nozzle drivers? Drum to heat? Time to waste? It makes you think. I bet they do this shit on purpose so you get pissed and buy another. They're not REALLY that stupid are they? If they are, how do these morons billions and most of us live day to day? :mad:

Companies need a direct advice line. :laugh:

erixx · Dec 18, 2011

Thanks for warning, I was about to get the HP 8500 Pro but that issues sound ridicule.

I am looking for all in one, with paper-feed and 2 side printing. No gimmicks needed (wifi, or Sd card reader or lan, etc) Maybe I will try Brother as it seems more business quality.

Lazzer408 · Dec 18, 2011

erixx said:
Thanks for warning, I was about to get the HP 8500 Pro but that issues sound ridicule.

I am looking for all in one, with paper-feed and 2 side printing. No gimmicks needed (wifi, or Sd card reader or lan, etc) Maybe I will try Brother as it seems more business quality.

When the 8500 works it does a good job and printed quickly but like I said, it's warmup/alignment/cleaning would happen at random intervals. Imagine a customer waiting for their invoice and having to stand there for 5 minutes while your printer cleans itself. It would also happen to me when I need to print directions to someones house right as I'm heading out the door. F-that.

Funny you should mention Brother. That was one of my choices before buying the laser. I have a friend with an auto shop (very classy place) and they have a couple Brother printers. I used to do computer repairs for them all the time until I suggested they move the equipment out of the shop. The dust was killing the computers but the printers always worked. They never had a problem with them. Second choice was an Epson that has HUGE ink cartridges in it but I couldn't find an all-in-one version of it.

I'm happy with this CM1415fnw except for the 3am alignment. :shadedshu

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Who makes a good inkjet printer?

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