AMD phenom 995BE 3.6GHZ running extremely slow

[Ruub]

Hi forum
dont know where to place this story but looks like here

I have a Question
Since a few weeks i bough a seconde game system kind of testing cause i realy like amd.
the board i bough is a Asus m4a89gtd-pro with a compatible cpu Phenom X4 995BE 3.2GHZ
placed an amd radeon 5770 1GB gddr5 pci express 2.0 card
with some kingston 4x2 GB module 8 gb total
HHD western Digital 500GB 7200 RMP 3GB sata
CPU Corsair 600watt
and watercooling Corsair h55
i build up this system from scratched placed everything and connected all cable ect like it should be
day one runned beastly i must say no lags delay or any kind of crap

A few days later i was placing a sd card in the pc and bang Bluescreen
after reboot the reader was installed like normal ways except the bluescreen
i dont know if this causes it but we come later on that part.
i installed newest amd drivers and since i did that my pc isnt running smooth at all
allot of hanging and slow login when i want to start desktop login

i tough yeaah could be releated to the BSSOD of sd reader
so i reinstalled my system with new fresh clean windows 7 sp1 x64

format the disk on low level WD tool!
installed all drivers directly from dvd and cross my finger it worked
but not till this day still my system loads extremly slow
i removed the pci express card sold it and enable my onboard grapics card ati 4290HD 512MB
reinstalled new amd drivers but no success

my rams are running at 1333MHZ tired also 800/1066/1600 but nothing seems to work
its kind of anoying that i try but nothing will works
i changed new psu had warrenty changed few vids card to hhd execpt t he rams not!
seems windows login +amd catalyst seems to delay allot


with my cpu is nothing wrong its should work like it does
tested with few progs passes 100%
my system is not hot between 28/33 full load if i am streaming or downloading browsing ect

it seems that my dual core runs even faster with startup + logins

i am realy confused and have no clue what it could be after replacing some new things
unload motherboard disconnect psu reset bios CM cosmos

really hope you guys can help me out with this unkown glitch because i had the same problem on a different Asus Motherboard it was 2 types Lower than this Motherboard i have ATM.
But something Happened that my Lan card om My Motherboard broke so i had to buy a new Lan piece and that works perfectly.

my system in specs are

Operating System
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 955 30 °C
Deneb 45nm Technology
RAM
8,00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 802MHz (9-9-9-24)
Motherboard
ASUSTeK Computer INC. M4A89GTD-PRO (AM3) 30 °C
Graphics
LA1951 (1280x1024@60Hz)
624MB ATI Radeon HD 4290 (ASUStek Computer Inc)
Storage
465GB Hitachi HTS547550A9E384 ATA Device (SATA) 32 °C
931GB SAMSUNG HD103SI ATA Device (SATA) 26 °C
Optical Drives
NEC DVD_RW ND-3520A ATA Device
Audio
Realtek High Definition Audio

this is the startup time selected in red
most of time takes from windows login 2/3 minutes
to load everything even
when you deselect all startup items
updated my drivers with driverbooster since than even the sound comes later than login screen GRRRRRR

 

[Caring1]

this is the startup time selected in red

Actually that is how long your system has been on.
Unless you use an SSD as the boot drive, it will still take around a minute to get to the stage you can do anything after hitting the power button.

 

[Ruub]

Actually that is how long your system has been on.
Unless you use an SSD as the boot drive, it will still take around a minute to get to the stage you can do anything after hitting the power button.

i think not mate after 2/3 minutes i can move my cursor till than everything take shitload of time
little update i did not install jet amd catalyst and now windows login in 3 secs just lik it should
cant explain it i never says boot time meant windows login READ pls help if you know solution dont compare stuff
so i think something is wrong with the videocard too old ????
next week ill buy R9 3GB we will see if it works

 

[GLD]

The first thing I would try (and the last thing I would put on my PC) is get the torrent software off your rig.

Get "process explorer" and see what is running on your rig.

That is my suggestion(s).

 

[Keullo-e]

The first thing I would try (and the last thing I would put on my PC) is get the torrent software off your rig.

Get "process explorer" and see what is running on your rig.

That is my suggestion(s).

And why is that?

 

[Ruub]

this will show of you got virus trojan ect if you use utorrent
but again the pc is fresh installed
only installed the program but not used it jet!

 

[Dent1]

The first thing I would try (and the last thing I would put on my PC) is get the torrent software off your rig.

Get "process explorer" and see what is running on your rig.

That is my suggestion(s).

uTorrent is a legitimate software. It's one of the most lightweight torrent clients available with only 1 process. Some versions don't even require an install.

uTorrent client doesn't contain any virus, a potential virus can occur afterwards when an inexperienced user attempts to install illegal software which happens to have a virus embedded.

Torrents can be used for genuine and legitimate FREE software. For example, you can download Ubuntu Linux via torrent straight from Ubuntu.com. Many FREE MMORPG games like TERA and even OpenOffice are distributed via torrent from the company's own website.



http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
http://support.enmasse.com/tera/downloading-tera-via-torrent
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/p2p/magnet.html

 

[Mussels]

uTorrent is a legitimate software. It's one of the most lightweight torrent clients available with only 1 process. Some versions don't even require an install.

uTorrent client doesn't contain any virus, a potential virus can occur afterwards when an inexperienced user attempts to install illegal software which happens to have a virus embedded.

Torrents can be used for genuine and legitimate FREE software. For example, you can download Ubuntu Linux via torrent straight from Ubuntu.com. Many FREE MMORPG games like TERA and even OpenOffice are distributed via torrent from the company's own website.



http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
http://support.enmasse.com/tera/downloading-tera-via-torrent
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/p2p/magnet.html

actually theres a lot of drama about utorrent including litecoin miners these days, so it may not be malware, but it sure as hell can screw with system performance.

Qbittorrent (i think its called) is the often recommended alternative.

 

[Ruub]

ok thnx for the reply
but i am using more newsgroups payed
there always a change that you can download virus spyware's ect
but i will take a look of Qbittorrent

uTorrent is a legitimate software. It's one of the most lightweight torrent clients available with only 1 process. Some versions don't even require an install.

uTorrent client doesn't contain any virus, a potential virus can occur afterwards when an inexperienced user attempts to install illegal software which happens to have a virus embedded.

Torrents can be used for genuine and legitimate FREE software. For example, you can download Ubuntu Linux via torrent straight from Ubuntu.com. Many FREE MMORPG games like TERA and even OpenOffice are distributed via torrent from the company's own website.



http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
http://support.enmasse.com/tera/downloading-tera-via-torrent
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/p2p/magnet.html

yeah true it's the site's database that gives you mailware most of the time
but utorrent is not a spyware exe
the files that you download contain most of the time spyware's
maby i can show soon if i download a movie or file

but cmon this has nothing to do with delays on a fresh install
i think i solved the glitch it was ati 8.01 driver i cant run 13 or 14 ati driver somehow
some how when i install ccc system hangs
my question is i got crossfire motherbord
should nvidia never run in?

anyways thnx for all the reply's
i hope after new card it will work normal with CCC or Nvidia
my asus bord support high class videocards but from brand's like Asus Ati or Nvidia

 

[Mussels]

A lot of things can cause a slow startup, most common would be drivers. It will take a *long* time for us to go through all the options, so i'll just list the steps i do for a fresh windows install that is problem free, you can let us know if you missed any of it.


1. Format the drive - clean windows install from DVD
2. install all drivers you can from windows update first, except video card. Make sure to install and update .Net, as modern video card drivers require that.
3. install any missing drivers (check device manager), including video card manually, with downloads from their respective websites. never install from the motherboard DVD/website unless you have to.

 

[Ruub]

i did all the steps last time install from device manger manually
thats works but than i dont have codecs or open GL
since i play new games
dont want everytime when driver fails have a clean install
i could remove them with tools or manually but system wont be repsone good anymore
hard to explain in english i'am a dutch guy!

i just try isntall full bundle and must says works now from pc booting with logins less t han 45 secs
i am happy but dont call it jet fixed weird cause yesterday same driver and not worked

 

[Mussels]

codecs of course come seperately for video playback. i recommend CCCP codec pack.

if you dont have openGL, then you're not using the correct graphics drivers.

 

[Ruub]

thats if you manually drivers add in device manger
i use ps3 media server for blurays HD streaming to my xbox360 since i dont have a bluray player
ccc is with openGL build in i try many times higher than 10.1 amd catalyst will slow my pc down and cause windows login 1/2min for it past
maby cause the onboard Vga/hdmi is too old?

 

[Mussels]

thats if you manually drivers add in device manger
i use ps3 media server for blurays HD streaming to my xbox360 since i dont have a bluray player
ccc is with openGL build in i try many times higher than 10.1 amd catalyst will slow my pc down and cause windows login 1/2min for it past
maby cause the onboard Vga/hdmi is too old?

make sure the one you install matches your video card. really old ones or really new ones will cause problems - 10.1 is 5 years old. there is no way your card is supported by that driver.
some versions of CCC slowed down boot times, this cannot be helped. make sure dotnet is installed and up to date via windows update.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

my Hd 5770 runs best on 13.4 which is on a different pc with no monitor or i would attach it.

Recent drivers have caused me problems.

 

[Ruub]

Thnx Mussel but that wont help
i have also have same issue with 5770 7950 R7 Serie's old new
still fucks login times up
so thats why i went back to default
and hope i can buy soon newest card only prob there cost alot of cash sumthing round 500/800 euros

make sure the one you install matches your video card. really old ones or really new ones will cause problems - 10.1 is 5 years old. there is no way your card is supported by that driver.
some versions of CCC slowed down boot times, this cannot be helped. make sure dotnet is installed and up to date via windows update.

and 10.1 is just working now
any later t han 13/14 or later will cause this weird problem

 

[Mussels]

and 10.1 is just working now
any later t han 13/14 or later will cause this weird problem

10.1 is not working - if you check device manager you'll find you're running a microsoft driver, instead of an AMD one. you need to troubleshoot a modern driver, not stick with one older than your card itself.

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

11-12_vista64_win7_64_dd_ccc_ocl . Is the original hd 5770 driver

 

[Ruub]

yup club 3d HD 5770

check device manager you'll find you're running a microsoft driver, instead of an AMD one. you need to troubleshoot a modern driver, not stick with one older than your card itself.
what you mean with this? if i update it its will mess up system? or i am wrong?

its funny in my i7 the ati cards works all perfeclty on latest Version

also check Event vieuw

and many of this error are listed

0000000035: 2015-03-10 13:52:59:557 Exception <Saving Xml Document>: acces to path C:\ProgramData\ATI\ACE\Profiles.xml has been denied
Exception Called by: ATI.ACE.APM.Server.XmlDocumentSaver::SaverWorker processID:02964 threadID ) domainNameCCC.exe ) assemblyNameAPM.Server, Version=2.0.3851.37769, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=90ba9c70f846762e)
************************************************************************************************************************

and more

0000000001 : 2015-03-10 12: 11 : 20: 751 Exception : Can not delete the structure of a subkey because the subkey does not exist.
Exception Called by: ATI.ACE.MOM.Implementation.MOM :: Main processID : 03420 threadID ) domain name ( MOM.exe ) assembly including: ( MOM.Implementation , Version = 2.0.3851.37854 , Culture = neutral, PublicKeyToken = 90ba9c70f846762e )

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

As @CAPSLOCKSTUCK and @Mussels have posted, you need to run Amd cat 11.12 or higher for that gpu. Do not run the newest driver from AMD on if as it is of no value to you and may actually cause issue with your rig. Do a clean install, load mobo drivers, gpu 11.12 drivers, then rest of the drivers. Then see how the rig runs. Bet it is fine. If not then there is something you are doing and not mentioning during your install process that is causing the issue. So we may need you to type out your exact in every details os reinstall routine.

 

[Ruub]

hello guy's
i am back again with same problem
got 2 new cards running in crossfire first month no problems occur
windows 7 x64 boot up in 45 secondes with all drivers + windows logon
no bug was found
than something wierd happend some how some programs start to bug and did not work at all
example's aida64 start to failed to load and hang the system some apps where slow loading opening ect
the driver version was 13.04 from amd side this made no diffrent system was still fast at startup
but had to reinstall my system cause of a bad trojan everything was removed clean boot fresh install
now the same shit happens again windows logon + loading drivers will take up to 3/5 mins
this is realy i pain in the ass
replaced new hhd 2 new videocard's new tower with new powersupply still nothing works
can somebody help me out?
greets Ruub

 

[Aquinus]

I'm wondering if I'm the only person who noticed this: Is your DRAM stable? The picture looks like you have two different sets of memory in your computer. I would make sure that they're both running at the highest common latencies to make sure that the DRAM isn't being "overclocked" by virtue of running lower timings.

MemTest86 should tell us if DRAM is at fault.

0000000035: 2015-03-10 13:52:59:557 Exception <Saving Xml Document>: acces to path C:\ProgramData\ATI\ACE\Profiles.xml has been denied

I also think this problem is because you're entire home isn't writable by your user account. I suspect your permissions are messed up.

 

[GreiverBlade]

hello guy's
i am back again with same problem
got 2 new cards running in crossfire first month no problems occur
windows 7 x64 boot up in 45 secondes with all drivers + windows logon
no bug was found
than something wierd happend some how some programs start to bug and did not work at all
example's aida64 start to failed to load and hang the system some apps where slow loading opening ect
the driver version was 13.04 from amd side this made no diffrent system was still fast at startup
but had to reinstall my system cause of a bad trojan everything was removed clean boot fresh install
now the same shit happens again windows logon + loading drivers will take up to 3/5 mins
this is realy i pain in the ass
replaced new hhd 2 new videocard's new tower with new powersupply still nothing works
can somebody help me out?
greets Ruub

well ... without OC (cpu or gpu) you are at (approximation)
Minimum PSU Wattage:460 W
Recommended
PSU Wattage: *

the 4870 are not a good pair to go on a 600w PSU with a OC 955BE ...


also reading back your 1st post ... do yourself a favor and never reinstall a POS like the one in the red circle. (i know my circle isn't a circle ... let's call it a red potato )

honestly "driver booster" "all in one driver installer" are most of the time malware nest.

and also that (nope @Aquinus you are not the only one )

I'm wondering if I'm the only person who noticed this: Is your DRAM stable? The picture looks like you have two different sets of memory in your computer. I would make sure that they're both running at the highest common latencies to make sure that the DRAM isn't being "overclocked" by virtue of running lower timings.

MemTest86 should tell us if DRAM is at fault.

tho i did run different RAM model i tend to prefer having all from the same brand/model

 

[Mussels]

The symptoms sound like corruption to me, either from RAM being faulty/set up wrong, or from a hard drive.

RAM issues can definitely come and go, because ram usage can literally vary by the minute. you could have 8GB of ram and only the last 100MB is unstable, and it'd show up very rarely.


Greiver: those PSU wattage estimators have nothing to do with reality, they're a gimmick. Completely agree on that 'driver booster' software, and anything like it.

 

[brandonwh64]

The phenom II's are showing their age right now but still it shouldn't be sluggish or locking up. Test RAM, HDD, and PSU for issues.