atleast with a PC shop you wouldnt void a warranty of doing it yourself
Honestly youre thinking a Lil too much
That's because I don't have too much money and I want to choose the best for me.
atleast with a PC shop you wouldnt void a warranty of doing it yourself
Honestly youre thinking a Lil too much
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
That's because I don't have too much money and I want to choose the best for me.
ok heres the deal how things in this world works for RMAs etc.
You dont tell then what you did exactly as to the reason your Parts didnt work/died, just say they stopped working and that is it and if you had any error codes from windows itself.
Before Youtube and major forums there were books on how to build and trouble shoot computers- Read them.
The 1st thing to remember always is to take Electro Static Discharge/Static Electricity Precautions.
Since You dont know anything about overclocking right now, dont do it till you build the machine and get a full understanding of how all the hardware works, and Read up on how to overclock such a configuration when you build it. Basically give yourself a few months before deciding to overclock, give the machine a chance to break in.
Personally Select 1 of the 6 CPUs I have posted earlier, whichever is cheaper, they all OC to around 4.3-4.5GHz manually (Non Turbo Mode) Before You even think of overclocking get a Different CPU cooler (Stock units normally come with CPUs- only good for running at Stock) up to Turbo speed- tend to be noisy)
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
I know a little. I have overclocked a friend's computer. Not with multipliers though, it was a locked CPU.
ok so you know about FSB overclocking which is good.
its FSB x base clock (or Multiplier) which gets your Operational Clock speed of your CPU
System Name | Halloween Boo! |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 3770K |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z77-Up7 |
Cooling | Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240 |
Memory | 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz |
Video Card(s) | 3 x Radeon 7970 |
Storage | OCZ Revo Drive 240G |
Display(s) | 24 inch Viewsonic |
Case | Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench |
Power Supply | Nexus 1100 watt |
atleast with a PC shop you wouldnt void a warranty of doing it yourself
Honestly youre thinking a Lil too much
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
How do you void a warranty by doing it yourself. Your sounding real wierd.
http://download.intel.com/support/processors/sb/sockethfinallayout.pdf
they used to void warranty if you claimed to built the machine yourself doh.
http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-020033.htm
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS TUF x670e |
Cooling | EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans. |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 4090 |
Storage | WD m.2 |
Display(s) | LG C2 Evo OLED 42" |
Case | Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp. |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 Pro |
Keyboard | Tester84 |
Software | Windows 11 |
The funniest things void the warranty...
Anyway, I would appreciate it if you'd "walk me through" the RMA process as in my previous post. I assume you've missed it due to a question in the post above.
How RMA's work:
Call the support number or send an email claiming the product is defective. They will decide if it needs RMA and you send the product to an address. If the RMA is approved, after some time they will send you a new product.
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
So you guys don't do it something like this?
"Take it to the service store, tell them it's defected and give it in the original packing, wait for a replacement."
And anyway, if it needs an approvement, they are likely to check if it's been overclocked. :/
if the processor is dead, they cant check to see if it is, They only would check and see if the CPU runs fine at Stock clock and at Turbo Clock thats it.
Dave, I never actually looked (shame on me)... what are you using for cooler(s)?
if the processor is dead, they cant check to see if it is, They only would check and see if the CPU runs fine at Stock clock and at Turbo Clock thats it.
Exactly. They verify stock operation(stock clocks, memory speeds, with stock cooling, etc) ONLY...anything over and above that, they do not need to test. You can only claim warranty if those things do not work.
Stores do not have the equipment to test for more. However, if you buy a CPU, typically, the store only handles warranty claims for a limited period, and then it's up to the manufacturer, who is more likely to have equipment capable of testing such things.
Things get broken during shipping, etc...stores do not test parts in sealed boxes before sale, so warranty is there to cover that sort of thing. Usually issues caused by such will materialize within a very short period of time, which is why stores only handle short warranty periods in most instances.
Corsair H100. I have two for testing.
System Name | Apollo |
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Processor | Intel Core i9 9880H |
Motherboard | Some proprietary Apple thing. |
Memory | 64GB DDR4-2667 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2 |
Storage | 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External |
Display(s) | Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays |
Case | MacBook Pro (16", 2019) |
Audio Device(s) | AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers |
Power Supply | 96w Power Adapter |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G915, GL Clicky |
Software | MacOS 12.1 |
Well if they test if it's working and it isn't, there still must be a way to find it out. Like different electronics degradation inside the CPU, to see if it's been overclocked or not. Or am I tripping here? There MUST be a way to find out about OC and especially overvoltage.
Your tripping.
CPU degradation doesn't imply overclocking. So even if they could check for it, it isn't a valid indicator that the CPU was overclocked because excessive heat could cause it which doesn't need an overclock to occur. Either way, if you're not overclocking and not shoving 1.5v through a 22nm chip I think you will be fine.
System Name | Halloween Boo! |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 3770K |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z77-Up7 |
Cooling | Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240 |
Memory | 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz |
Video Card(s) | 3 x Radeon 7970 |
Storage | OCZ Revo Drive 240G |
Display(s) | 24 inch Viewsonic |
Case | Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench |
Power Supply | Nexus 1100 watt |
if the processor is dead, they cant check to see if it is, They only would check and see if the CPU runs fine at Stock clock and at Turbo Clock thats it.
System Name | Halloween Boo! |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 3770K |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z77-Up7 |
Cooling | Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240 |
Memory | 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz |
Video Card(s) | 3 x Radeon 7970 |
Storage | OCZ Revo Drive 240G |
Display(s) | 24 inch Viewsonic |
Case | Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench |
Power Supply | Nexus 1100 watt |
http://download.intel.com/support/processors/sb/sockethfinallayout.pdf
they used to void warranty if you claimed to built the machine yourself doh.
http://www.intel.com/support/processors/sb/CS-020033.htm
System Name | All the cores |
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Processor | 2990WX |
Motherboard | Asrock X399M |
Cooling | CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL |
Memory | 4x16GB G.Skill 3600 |
Video Card(s) | (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's |
Storage | 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB |
Display(s) | Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz |
Case | Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal |
Audio Device(s) | Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime 1200w |
Mouse | Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller |
Keyboard | Keychron K8 |
Software | W10P |
There's more single-threaded games than multi-threaded games actually, and many latest games wouldn't utilize more than 2 cores. If it will move somewhere, it'll be more games using 3 and 4 cores.
Why? Most games already use 4 cores. New games such as BF3 and Crysis 3 are using all 8 threads available to the 3770K, 8150 and 8350.
You obvious lack of knowledge in a lot of these areas makes me question why you would argue with someone who is sitting there telling you from personal experience and the experience of other members.
As for all of your overclocking woes. 3470, 3570K, 3770K doesn't matter you will not be clocking much if any on the bus speed everything is pretty much pure multiplier clocking. Yes you technically void your warranty overclocking but there isn't some piece of paper that changes color on the CPU to say you were overclocking. Even if you do pump 2V through your brand spanking new 3570K because you think you know best Intel wont know that is the exact reason the processor stopped working. That would lead to high level degradation and possibly death of certain internal components none of which is visible to the techie who plugs the CPU into a mobo and sees it not POST.
If you are that freaked out about overclocking save the money buy a 3470 and move on. Obviously overclocking isn't for you.
System Name | Intel® X99 Wellsburg |
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Processor | Intel® Core™ i7-5820K - 4.5GHz |
Motherboard | ASUS Rampage V E10 (1801) |
Cooling | EK RGB Monoblock + EK XRES D5 Revo Glass PWM |
Memory | CMD16GX4M4A2666C15 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS GTX1080Ti Poseidon |
Storage | Samsung 970 EVO PLUS 1TB /850 EVO 1TB / WD Black 2TB |
Display(s) | Samsung P2450H |
Case | Lian Li PC-O11 WXC |
Audio Device(s) | CREATIVE Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | EVGA 1200 P2 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G900 / SS QCK |
Keyboard | Deck 87 Francium Pro |
Software | Windows 10 Pro x64 |
System Name | Norfree |
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Processor | i5 3570k @4.4 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte UD5H |
Cooling | 212 Evo |
Memory | 4x4GB Kingston 1600 @ 1833 9cl |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Nitro Fury |
Storage | Corsair SSD, WD Black |
Display(s) | 1080p TV |
Case | Corsair 300-R |
Audio Device(s) | Auzentech Prelude > Fidelio X2s and AD-700s |
Power Supply | PCP&C Silent 950w |
Software | Win 10 Pro 64 |
I'm just recapping what I've read in various articles of earlier this year. Supposedly they did tests.
Sorry for that. I just can't believe that there is no way of detecting that CPU has died of overclocking, that it was running on higher than allowed frequency or voltage, etc.. It's... Very odd.
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
I have never seen them deny one. DOH!
You are also using key words "Used to"
System Name | DEVIL'S ABYSS |
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Processor | i7-4790K@4.6 GHz |
Motherboard | Asus Z97-Deluxe |
Cooling | Corsair H110 (2 x 140mm)(3 x 140mm case fans) |
Memory | 16GB Adata XPG V2 2400MHz |
Video Card(s) | EVGA 780 Ti Classified |
Storage | Intel 750 Series 400GB (AIC), Plextor M6e 256GB (M.2), 13 TB storage |
Display(s) | Crossover 27QW (27"@ 2560x1440) |
Case | Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1150 |
Power Supply | Cooler Master V1000 |
Mouse | Ttsports Talon Blu |
Keyboard | Logitech G510 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro x64 version 1803 |
Benchmark Scores | Passmark CPU score = 13080 |
That's why I'm asking for real-world performance.
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
A 30% overclock means everything the processor does is done 30% faster (more or less), so "real world" performance will depend on how CPU-dependent your program or game is. Overclocking also helps RAM realize it's full potential when using high speed memory clocks such as 2133, 2400, or 2600, resulting in even more speed and lower latency. Of course, to realize these gains will require more cash outlay for enhanced CPU cooling, at the very least $30 for a Hyper 212 Evo, or even better an H100 liquid cooling system for peace of mind. In my book the ability to boost performance 30% or more is well worth the extra $70-$80 needed for the right hardware. Get the 3570K
System Name | Halloween Boo! |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 3770K |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z77-Up7 |
Cooling | Custom Water/ Thermalchill TA 120.3/ Swiftech Apogeee XT/ MCP655/ Swiftech M icrores/ XSPC RX 240 |
Memory | 16G G.Skill trident 2400MHz |
Video Card(s) | 3 x Radeon 7970 |
Storage | OCZ Revo Drive 240G |
Display(s) | 24 inch Viewsonic |
Case | Phobia WayCoolIt Test Bench |
Power Supply | Nexus 1100 watt |
Why? Most games already use 4 cores. New games such as BF3 and Crysis 3 are using all 8 threads available to the 3770K, 8150 and 8350.
You obvious lack of knowledge in a lot of these areas makes me question why you would argue with someone who is sitting there telling you from personal experience and the experience of other members.
As for all of your overclocking woes. 3470, 3570K, 3770K doesn't matter you will not be clocking much if any on the bus speed everything is pretty much pure multiplier clocking. Yes you technically void your warranty overclocking but there isn't some piece of paper that changes color on the CPU to say you were overclocking. Even if you do pump 2V through your brand spanking new 3570K because you think you know best Intel wont know that is the exact reason the processor stopped working. That would lead to high level degradation and possibly death of certain internal components none of which is visible to the techie who plugs the CPU into a mobo and sees it not POST.
If you are that freaked out about overclocking save the money buy a 3470 and move on. Obviously overclocking isn't for you.