OFFICIAL World Of Tanks

[Ahhzz]

I've played... 7 or 8 battles. Mostly in the starter US on the left (M1?) and the French starter. Got 2 games with 1 kill, 1 game with 3 (I rock, right?), and the rest just some minor damage and death heheh. I think I've only survived one whole game heheh.

 

[Zubasa]

i know it is belorussain registered company.
there is a reason i say it is russian. trust me. examples you give are exceptions that just confirm the rule. dig deeper in stats.
the game is just made in the way that russian are best germen are worst everthing else is between with some exceptions here and there so they can be given as refutation when ppl whine.

http://www.noobmeter.com/tankStats
You can read it yourself, German tanks since the rebalance have been performing quite well.
The now buffed Tiger H is doing consistently better than the Russian IS.
The E-100 have been doing better than both the IS-7 and IS-4 since the gold ammo nerfs, and this is with all the noob E-100 drivers dragging the stats down.
E-50M is sitting between the Obj 140 and T-62A which are all above average.
E-75 is a great tank as well.

I definitely feel its much easier to grind Russian tanks than others.

Depends on the line actually.
The IS-4 line have some horrible grinds and modules with guns that don't carry over to the next tank.
If you haven't went down the IS line first you be grinding the ST-I with the IS gun, or forced to free XP.

with that pen and rof i will agree on "as bad as germen's" only

If you want to know some really tough grinds, the British heavy line definite.
The amount of crap guns on the Churchill you have to go through to get anything good is ridiculous.
A stock Caernarvon is also pretty horrible as well, 171 pen and 150 damage at tier 8 is a joke, and not like the tank's armor is good anyways.
Whats worst is the top gun on the Caernarvon is a rip-off of exp.
Also the Churchill Gun Carrier is like the worst thing in game.

 

[entropy13]

Fourstaff...are you playing in ASIA server now too? lol

AFAIK there's no SDRHB in EU, unless I'm mistaken...

 

[Fourstaff]

Fourstaff...are you playing in ASIA server now too? lol

AFAIK there's no SDRHB in EU, unless I'm mistaken...

Yes, I have relocated from EU to SEA. Letting go of my Batchat and the freshly ground Leo1 is tough, but home beckons and I ran out of visa in UK lol

Siemkas in EU seems to be godlike compared to the retards you find here :<

 

[Fourstaff]

At very least siemka scout and soak up damage ...

 

[entropy13]

Want to plat? lol

 

[entropy13]

Sorry Fourstaff, latency isn't exactly good for me...will go watch Outbreak Company instead. LOL

 

[Fourstaff]

Sorry Fourstaff, latency isn't exactly good for me...will go watch Outbreak Company instead. LOL

Next time

 

[entropy13]

You know connectivity for your country in general is bad when the game you're playing had to create a survey for those playing in that country...

 

[ne6togadno]

Regrinding from scratch is shit, you get so many morons in low tiers.

cry me a river.
i have deleted my old account and i have started new account to try new germen td line. curently i am at t5 and while t1-t3 was relatively good t4-t5 is . 2.5mins and your team is -10vs-3 for enemy. and things are even worse when you are in t6 t7 match with kv1s and retarder russian derp guns on kv1 or kv2 and t150. i was about 56% win ratio till i was playing with up to t3 tech. with t4&5 droped quite fast to 50-51% most of the time because half team was gone in 1.5min (was about to say 30sec but even best of moron teams i have seen couldnt managed to do it. but they keep trying)

http://www.noobmeter.com/tankStats
You can read it yourself, German tanks since the rebalance have been performing quite well.
The now buffed Tiger H is doing consistently better than the Russian IS.
The E-100 have been doing better than both the IS-7 and IS-4 since the gold ammo nerfs, and this is with all the noob E-100 drivers dragging the stats down.
E-50M is sitting between the Obj 140 and T-62A which are all above average.
E-75 is a great tank as well.

those stats reflect behind keyboard device performance which can vary a lot.
i was meaning in game stats. yes i agree that after 8.8 germen t8+ got armor working properly but in mid tiers with rusian heavies with 380 dmg and nerf of some germen tanks like pz4 things gone worse. i havnt bought pz3/4 yet but i dont expect miricle from it. i have problems to pen frontal armor on kv1, kv1s and is even with pz4c' 8.8flak with 213 pen on 350m+ while i havent seen t-34 (russian) to has problems to pen my pz4 frontal from even bigger distances.

If you want to know some really tough grinds, the British heavy line definite.
The amount of crap guns on the Churchill you have to go through to get anything good is ridiculous.
A stock Caernarvon is also pretty horrible as well, 171 pen and 150 damage at tier 8 is a joke, and not like the tank's armor is good anyways.
Whats worst is the top gun on the Caernarvon is a rip-off of exp.
Also the Churchill Gun Carrier is like the worst thing in game.

i dont say brits are easy to grind. but at at least you dont have to worry much for random shooters. churchill line is hard to grind cause of slow speed of tanks. whenever you are on map that need you to travel to reach contact line and you are screwed. till you reach battle spot with those amazing 15-20km/h and everyone is dead or so low hp that even if you last hit 5-6 you still get shit xp.

 

[Fourstaff]

cry me a river.
i have deleted my old account and i have started new account to try new germen td line. curently i am at t5 and while t1-t3 was relatively good t4-t5 is . 2.5mins and your team is -10vs-3 for enemy. and things are even worse when you are in t6 t7 match with kv1s and retarder russian derp guns on kv1 or kv2 and t150. i was about 56% win ratio till i was playing with up to t3 tech. with t4&5 droped quite fast to 50-51% most of the time because half team was gone in 1.5min (was about to say 30sec but even best of moron teams i have seen couldnt managed to do it. but they keep trying)

Haven't tried the new TD line, I have concluded that I cannot play TDs in pubs. As much as I like high damage tanks, the threat of getting outflanked is extremely high in pubs.

i dont say brits are easy to grind. but at at leat you dont have to worry much for random shooters. churchill line is hard to grind cause of slow speed of tanks. whenever you are on map that need you to travel to reach contact line and you are screwed. till you reach battle spot with those amazing 15-20km/h and everyone is dead or so low hp that even if you last hit 5-6 you still get shit xp.

Breakthrough tanks that cant seem to do their job properly. The light tanks up to and including Crusader are shit too. At least their TD are half decent.

In other news, I still love Pz IV. Haven't found a better derptank.

 

[ne6togadno]

Haven't tried the new TD line, I have concluded that I cannot play TDs in pubs. As much as I like high damage tanks, the threat of getting outflanked is extremely high in pubs.

german t3-t6 have good (i am at pz4c in new line) traverse with upgraded traks and cant be flanked so easily but till you get em is quite annoying. if i dont have free xp to pick them right away for me they are first to reseach. i have tried su85 and su100 and they are very good too but they was fully upgraded so i cant say how are they pre elit.

Breakthrough tanks that cant seem to do their job properly. The light tanks up to and including Crusader are shit too. At least their TD are half decent.

In other news, I still love Pz IV. Haven't found a better derptank.

i have few hundred xp till derp gun. i havnt tried it before cause pz4 has 75/L71

 

[Fourstaff]

german t3-t6 have good (i am at pz4c in new line) traverse with upgraded traks and cant be flanked so easily but till you get em is quite annoying. if i dont have free xp to pick them right away for me they are first to reseach. i have tried su85 and su100 and they are very good too but they was fully upgraded so i cant say how are they pre elit.

i have few hundred xp till derp gun. i havnt tried it before cause pz4 has 75/L71

I find the second German TD line free food, extremely weak against HE shells and generally useless in a retarded team. Perhaps when I find myself a team it will be better, but I have no plans for that yet.

Derp gun is good, I can easily hit over 1k damage regularly, even against Tier 6.

 

[ne6togadno]

I find the second German TD line free food, extremely weak against HE shells and generally useless in a retarded team. Perhaps when I find myself a team it will be better, but I have no plans for that yet.

hm i see em good unless derp or retarded russian gun point in your direction but that is valid for pritty much every t5 or less beside british turtle tds.
marder 38 was nice, 4c is agile and with 88flak got good dmg+pen for rest i need to grind

 

[Zubasa]

those stats reflect behind keyboard device performance which can vary a lot.
i was meaning in game stats. yes i agree that after 8.8 germen t8+ got armor working properly but in mid tiers with rusian heavies with 380 dmg and nerf of some germen tanks like pz4 things gone worse. i havnt bought pz3/4 yet but i dont expect miricle from it. i have problems to pen frontal armor on kv1, kv1s and is even with pz4c' 8.8flak with 213 pen on 350m+ while i havent seen t-34 (russian) to has problems to pen my pz4 frontal from even bigger distances.

I know the German do have some crap tier 6s.
At lease the VK3601H and the new VK3002M is decent.

But over all I just don't buy the whole "anti-German" bias thing.
They say they are going to nerf the KV-1S, which will be the "KV-122" at tier 6.
I shall wait and see how they are going to do it.

 

[Fourstaff]

Chinese tanks any fun to grind? I heard 59-16 is absolutely crap, does it improve down the medium line?

 

[Zubasa]

Chinese tanks any fun to grind? I heard 59-16 is absolutely crap, does it improve down the medium line?

The Chinese lines are overall quite good grinds.
Mostly because most guns/engines/etc are shared between all of them.
The 59-16 is bad, but the tanks after it are all good.
Both the WZ-131 and 132 have very good guns for light tanks.

The medium line is kind of a good news bad news situation.
The Type T-34 and Type 58 are just crappier versions of the Russians.
The tier 7 T-34-1 is a medium tanks with a powerful high pen gun with a low hull and amazing turret armor.
At tier 8 the T-34-2 on the other hand is just crappy version of the Type 59 and T-34-3.
The biggest draw back of the Chinese mediums is the -3 gun depression with their 122mm guns.

I personally went down the Chinese heavy tank line first, because you unlock most of the guns and are quite easy grinds.
Also the Chinese heavy tanks are overall better than the Russian IS line except the IS-7.

 

[Fourstaff]

Life in SEA is hard.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Life in SEA is hard.

http://img.techpowerup.org/131114/shot_005.jpg

In WOT terms of just generally?

 

[ne6togadno]

Life in SEA is hard.

http://img.techpowerup.org/131114/shot_005.jpg

dude i thought my luck in mm suck but your suck twice as much.
half team with 0dmg, 2 with less then 100 and you alone have done about same dmg as rest of your team...
speachless
i am starting to think playing with polish and russians is nice.
better get uk visa sorted fast or just drop game for better times.

 

[Fourstaff]

In WOT terms of just generally?

Its twice as bad as siemka players, and 4 times as bad as Russians

better get uk visa sorted fast or just drop game for better times.

I have finished my education in UK, there is no going back for the foreseeable future

 

[Tatty_Two]

Its twice as bad as siemka players, and 4 times as bad as Russians



I have finished my education in UK, there is no going back for the foreseeable future

Masters?

 

[Fourstaff]

Masters?

Not planned atm, but eventually. I don't have anything in mind, and holding a mathematics and statistics degree means I have a wide variety of masters courses (almost every financial to most engineering) to choose from. Plan is to work a bit first, and if I enjoy the work, apply for leave to continue to masters in the field.

 

[ne6togadno]

Its twice as bad as siemka players, and 4 times as bad as Russians



I have finished my education in UK, there is no going back for the foreseeable future

may be try go back to eu servers.
it might be better to play with high lag then with morons.
do you have isp that that offer high speed connection to eu for decent price?

 

[Fourstaff]

may be try go back to eu servers.
it might be better to play with high lag then with morons.
do you have isp that that offer high speed connection to eu for decent price?

I can probably do NA just fine, with ~100-150 ping. EU will be at least 150 even with good connection.