2700k @ 5.0 or 4770k @ 4.6? What would you keep?

[radrok]

I've always liked Sandy's insane overclockability, I feel we are going backwards with smaller Intel nodes.

I've yet to see a 4930K or 4770K do 5,3-5,5 Ghz even on water.

Still, those frequencies are pretty hard to reach even for Sandy/SB-E but reachable, nonetheless.

Enough derailing, accept my apologies.

 

[XSI]

For many users it would be almost the same. For you i would say 4770k. Because you are on water, temps are good. Newer architecture with some small advantages. + 2x780 ti's one of the biggest reason to keep 4770k. every little bit counts there.

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Three 780 Tis?

While three TI's would be pretty sweet, I'm not very keen on exploring the value of diminishing returns after 2 cards in sli/crossfire. I've been following the Classified members club over at OCN and been waiting to see the Kingpin edition results to see if I would possibly throw my "regular" TI Classies up for sale but it seems they are a little weak on the memory side. I am still dialing in stable clocks across all of my apps/games (I can push some crazy clocks on benchmarks, but they are nowhere near stable in the games I play.) Also, I still play a lot of games that don't even support (Mechwarrior Online), or poorly support (Fallout 3/NV/Skyrim, Deus Ex:HR) multiple GPU's. I am having a very fun/frustrating time with multiple BIOSes and playing around with voltages and clocks with these cards. This was the main reason I wanted the Classifieds. My 690 was locked to 1.175 volts for the longest time until Unwinder from MSI afterburner got voltage control for the NCP4206 and I was able to push to 1.3 volts which made my 690 a very fun card to play with.

I've always liked Sandy's insane overclockability, I feel we are going backwards with smaller Intel nodes.

I've yet to see a 4930K or 4770K do 5,3-5,5 Ghz even on water.

Still, those frequencies are pretty hard to reach even for Sandy/SB-E but reachable, nonetheless.

Enough derailing, accept my apologies.

I do miss seeing the 5.0 mark in CPUz and feeling like I am pushing the limit, but I do want the new architecture. While I am considering hunting for a "golden" 4770k, I may just see what happens with the upcoming processors before I go throwing more money at the 1150 platform. This rig cost enough already. I have yet to sell my old one to recoup some of the expenses

For many users it would be almost the same. For you i would say 4770k. Because you are on water, temps are good. Newer architecture with some small advantages. + 2x780 ti's one of the biggest reason to keep 4770k. every little bit counts there.

I agree with that. Even though Wizz's review showed very minor increase performance between PCI-E 2.0 and 3.0, it is nice knowing that at least bandwith wise, it is not being so constrained. My main concern is, are my GPU's being processor bottlenecked by not having a high enough clock on the 4770k.

 

[rangerone766]

What kind of voltage do you need for 5.5?



Three 780 Tis?

a bit off topic but my sandy 2600k needs 1.44 for 5.2ghz windows stable. 1.51 volts for 5.4ghz windows stable, but at those temps my 120.3 rad starts having a hard time keeping up with temps. I have never bothered testing for max multi.

i'm going to stick with this cpu and board until i have a compelling reason to upgrade. i do need a gpu though. my gtx470 is getting a bit long in the tooth. but even that has no problem maxing out bf3 with 60fps at 1920 x 1080.

 

[TRWOV]

4770K

 

[Enterprise24]

I go from 3770k @ 5ghz 1.355v to 4770k @ 4.5ghz 1.24v (will try 4.7-4.8 when have time to delid) I like 4770k more because very strong imc.

My avexir 2133 can oc to 2400mhz due to imc limit but with 4770k it can fly @ 2933mhz 12-14-14-35-2t with default voltage.

Another thing i think hyper-threading in haswell is some more efficient than sandy/ivy (observe from cinebench11.5 / 15) maybe because double cache bandwidth.

 

[EpicShweetness]

Dude I'm sorry, but your beast rig is impressive, but if your trying to squeeze a few extra frames with 2 780ti's at 2560x1440 (even at 105hz, overclocked hmm) your gonna run every title to it's limits 60+ FPS. I do however admire your ambitious behavior

 

[arskatb]

4770k has one big problem, and its hight temp.
Intel use very low quality thermal compound between chip and heat sprender.

best way to lower ur temp like 20 cels is removing heat spreder, clean old thermal compound and mucilage.

amass it back by using MX-4 thermal compound and Coollaboratory Liquid Pro the liquid metal

I cant recommend that opertation for any1 if dont know how to do that

Noctua NH-D14 is great cooler for 4770k if compare it to orginal cooler u can get 20 celc lower temp
and with replaced thermal compund u can get 40 celc lower temp then orginal.

I would say if ur lucky u can have 4770k with well placed heat spreder but 4770k is still bad for overclocking with orginal thermal compound.

 

[Aquinus]

I think when push comes to shove, the 4770k won't feel any more responsive than a 2600k will with their respective overclocks. However I suspect that the 4770k uses less power than the 2600k does under load. Also the IMC argument is a little ridiculous unless your goal is over clocking because it really doesn't yield many performance boosts by running faster memory.

 

[Vario]

Haswell is the way to go with more sata 6, pcie3.0, and better imc.

 

[Aquinus]

Haswell is the way to go with more sata 6, pcie3.0, and better imc.

None of which is going to make his machine any faster.

More SATA 6Gb/s only is beneficial if you have more than two SSDs.
PCI-E 3.0 is only going to help if you have two powerful GPUs (2.0 8x is still more than enough in most cases)
The better IMC helps over clocking, but as we can see, it doesn't improve the CPU's IPC all that much.

Newer technology, more bandwidth? Yes. Will it actually respond faster because of it? Generally speaking, probably not.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

None of which is going to make his machine any faster.

More SATA 6Gb/s only is beneficial if you have more than two SSDs.
PCI-E 3.0 is only going to help if you have two powerful GPUs (2.0 8x is still more than enough in most cases)
The better IMC helps over clocking, but as we can see, it doesn't improve the CPU's IPC all that much.

Newer technology, more bandwidth? Yes. Will it actually respond faster because of it? Generally speaking, probably not.

If he runs higher speed memory itll reduce overall latency so it can be faster. That is really what you are doing when running higher memory speeds.

It all matters. Not that it'll really be noticeable though.

I've always liked Sandy's insane overclockability, I feel we are going backwards with smaller Intel nodes.
I've yet to see a 4930K or 4770K do 5,3-5,5 Ghz even on water.
Still, those frequencies are pretty hard to reach even for Sandy/SB-E but reachable, nonetheless.
Enough derailing, accept my apologies.

Well even if the Haswell part doesn't clock as high, even at a lower clock, it can match the performance of a higher performing Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge part.

I have found while tweaking my 4770k with the help of, cadaveca, that Haswell is a lot more fun to overclock too. So much more things to tweak, and options to play with.