X800 GTO² to X850 XT BIOS Mod

[infrared]

It's most likely to be the drivers. Modding to 16 pipes, provided they're all good, (which you'd know by not finding artifacts in atitool @ stock speed) will not cause any graphical glitches.

The 5.13 cats are out now, but i've found a few bugs with them that i'll report back to ATI, so go with the 5.12 version of the omega drivers or the standard ATI ones and see what happens!

 

[Sasqui]

VIVO Features on C3D X800 GTO

Ok, I've got 16pipes on A C3D X800 GTO, 550/540 - everything is working fine, but I cannot figure out how to go about capturing video using this card. Is there supposed to be software included in the retail bundle? (which I have)...

 

[infrared]

It's a VIVO?

hehe, to tell you the truth, i'm still stumped by that as well. There's a little yellow connector by the power connector which you obviously plug something into... but after that, i'm stuck

 

[Sasqui]

It's a VIVO?

hehe, to tell you the truth, i'm still stumped by that as well. There's a little yellow connector by the power connector which you obviously plug something into... but after that, i'm stuck

Funny - that was an incidental bonus... Yea, I saw the video dongle with the SVideo IN and one for OUT (along with RCA too). And of course, it was listed as VIVO on Newegg and the box. The documentation from C3D is a joke, how to use it? If you figure it out let me know - I want to experiment gettting Hi8 footage into digital.

 

[Sasqui]

It's a VIVO?

hehe, to tell you the truth, i'm still stumped by that as well. There's a little yellow connector by the power connector which you obviously plug something into... but after that, i'm stuck

Oh, actually I *think* the connector on the card is a second power connector, AFAIK, but NOTHING in thier documents talk about it. The in/out connectors are on the 4-way cable shown in this pic:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Showi...6MB+GDDR3+PCI+Express+x16+Video+Card+-+Retail

Notice the composite connectors as well, that is out-only.

 

[uno]

I have not read through all 151 pages, but...

I got my Sapphire X800 GTO2 today, and ATI-tools says it is a R430 core and 16 pipelines active (by default). Have things changed since the guide was written, and shouldn't the core be R480? Or is it just misidentified?

EDIT:
I saw there was a lot of posts about this just one page back, so I guess I got my answer there. Has anyone flashed one of these "XL" cards with the mod BIOS, and if so, does it make any difference for performance?

 

[XeoNoX]

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/4352035?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG
OUTPOST.COM has the x850 XT for 229.00, already has 16 pipes and has an R480 core, pretty much the same thing as the GTO2


If you live close to FRYS ELECTRONICS you can get it for $199.99 http://shopping.ocregister.com/imagehandler/rop-sub/9978412 good for 5 days only so hurry!

 

[krajicekp]

hello there, i got Sapphire x800GTO2 (PCX), it has enabled all16 pipes by defaulf and uses X800XL bios (readed by atitool and checked), atitool shows R430, in bios is written "R480 X800 XL BIOS". Ok so i tried to find max clocks, i got stable GPU/MEM 553/594 (with stock cooler - maybe i will later replace it with arctic ati silencer 5r2). I wanted to flash to different bios, i dont wantet to use 850XT PE cos its timings are pretty on egde on what my card can go, insted i tried to flash to X850XT (520/540 clocks). but after flash (succesfull) the fan does not work (chcescek visualy - its stopped and atitool shows 5%). ok i put back original bios, and the fan works again. Which bios shoud i use to get X850XT and working fan ?? thanks

 

[Tyresian]

It's been a while since I looked at this thread, but I bookmarked it and am back. I was going to get the Connect3D X800GTO, now I might go with the Sapphire GTO2.

And the recent confusion on the board is because of this. Sapphire has a new GTO2 card out, it has VIVO and two DVI connectors on it. NewEgg says it has 12 pipelines, but people claim it comes with 16 pipelines. Now this is all good, but I have no idea what the 3DMark05 scores are for people, and why is this version of the card cheaper than the other one? (Maybe it's because it's on sale), Anyhow, maybe I'll pick it up, but $210 is alot for me to spend on a video card... Especially with the cost of school and books, you guys think it's worth it, or should I wait for the C3DGTO to go on sale again? (It was onloy $125 after Thanksgiving but my parents wanted to get it for me for Christmas, well, they didn't order it and instead gave me $125, really making me angry since I the card is now $175, lol)

 

[krajicekp]

yes, mine is VIVO with 2DVI outputs, scores for default stock speeds are 10800 (3dm03) and 5150 (3dm05), and oc 13000 (almost) and 6600 (almost). Mine specs:
AMD Athlon 64 3200+@ (10x250=2500 MHz/1.45V; 2x208=416 DDR [2.5;3;3;7;1T]) • Epox 9NPA+ Ultra+ • 2x512MB PC400 Kingmax • Sapphire X800GTO2 256MB

 

[Tyresian]

Well, those are pretty good scores I guess, and those frame rates are much better than I'm used to (9600XT on old comp, x550 on the current one).

Also your set-up is pretty close to mine it looks like. I have that motherboard, but then an Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Core at 9x250 = 2250, 2 x 512 MB Wintec Ampo RAM @ 250x2 = DDR500 and 3-3-3-8, 2T Timings.

Well... Geez, I don't know if I can afford the $210 for the card, but that is pretty cheap, how's the VIVO on it? Is it fast enough where I could hook up a PS2, Xbox, or GC and play without any problems?

 

[krajicekp]

Well... Geez, I don't know if I can afford the $210 for the card, but that is pretty cheap, how's the VIVO on it? Is it fast enough where I could hook up a PS2, Xbox, or GC and play without any problems?

i never tried vivo on this card, i dont use it and if i need i have Theatrix (i think that ipnut is better - and maybe not), but what the heck, i dont use it anyway.
I got a question, i quite dont understand it, you want to cennect some game console to VIVO to play it on PC and why ?

 

[Tyresian]

Because in our household, most of the other television sets are always being used, and it would be nice to be able to just play on my computer monitor, and getting another TV isn't really an option, no room, lol... That's what sucks about being in a small house with a bunch of people I guess... I mean, we have plenty of TVs already, but I usually get stuck without access to one.

 

[infrared]

how do you get it to display the input video stream on the monitor? and can you record the video to disk?

 

[ibew112]

Sapphire GTO2 core speed

I have a gto2 but can only get my core speed to 500 and 572 on memory. what are the coolers you are using, is there a new bios for faster speeds or different drivers. I want a core of 540

 

[Silver-Arrow]

I have a gto2 but can only get my core speed to 500 and 572 on memory. what are the coolers you are using, is there a new bios for faster speeds or different drivers. I want a core of 540

Each card is different. My old GTO2 would only go 475/590. Once the core goes pass 480, my whole PC will freeze and reboot. I got another GTO2 and this one can do 540/590. Luck of the draw.

 

[ibew112]

coooling

so you are using the stock cooler ? I saw that some of the peeps are using zalman 70cu ? I think it was, thanks for the reply

 

[Silver-Arrow]

so you are using the stock cooler ? I saw that some of the peeps are using zalman 70cu ? I think it was, thanks for the reply

Yup, stock cooling for me. I'm too scared to switch to AC5 LOL.

 

[mulderx]

hi~
I just bought Sapphire X800 GTO² and opened successfully 16 pipelines. However, I can't overclock over 500 for core freq. by atitool,but can 590 for ram freq. I run 3Dmark2005 for testing and find the temperature is about 56C at 500 for core freq. Do you think is the bad core problem or the cooler problem? If I replace the cooler, does it help overclock to higher freq.
Thanks so much.

 

[RatusNatus]

Well, another unmodeable C3D GTO from newegg here.
Already send a mail to Wizzard.

cheers

 

[Locutus_UT]

Yup, me too! From newegg.com as well. Sent email to wizard. But was still able to overclock to 520/540 and squeaked out a 5700 on 3DMark05!

 

[RatusNatus]

Dumb questions here.

Using the modified flash utility should i flash back the original bios?
1- flashrom -f -p 0 BIOS16.bin to get 4 pipes
2- flashrom -f -p 0 OLD.bin dont know why should i do that.... will it reduce my pipes?

Is this correct? If i flash back how can i keep the 16 pipes?

Cheers

 

[Megatron]

Im pretty sure u dont use the -f command the 2nd time to keep 16 pipes.

 

[ShadowFlare]

Dumb questions here.

Using the modified flash utility should i flash back the original bios?
1- flashrom -f -p 0 BIOS16.bin to get 4 pipes
2- flashrom -f -p 0 OLD.bin dont know why should i do that.... will it reduce my pipes?

Is this correct? If i flash back how can i keep the 16 pipes?

Cheers

To do that you have to use something other than the modified flashrom utility, like the regular flashrom version or atiflash.

 

[RatusNatus]

To do that you have to use something other than the modified flashrom utility, like the regular flashrom version or atiflash.

The thing is, in Wizzard's article, he says to click "here" to more instructions but there is just Atiflash instructions.... i didnt find any instructions to do that with the another flash thing.
Do i need to flash back the old bios? Why?

New method
4) after boot, type flashrom -s 0 c3dgto.bin - this will save ur current bios
5) flashrom -f -p 0 (modified c3d bios filename)

Will this work to GTO2?

Please Shadow, can you post the commands to do it with the modified flash utility.

Many thanks to you and Megatron.

cheers