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OK but I want (need) to get it locally . I don't want the upgrade then right ? I need the OEM ..

No you dont want the upgrade. If you have to get it locally, go for the full version of Home Premium which is that 239.00 option. Then if you want, when you get the Vista x86 version it will have a piece of paper in it telling you how you can obtain the x64 version. The x64 OS itself is free but there is like a $10 shipping charge which isnt so bad. I got mine in about a week and a half.

You will ONLY find OEM online with places such as Newegg.
 

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No you dont want the upgrade. If you have to get it locally, go for the full version of Home Premium which is that 239.00 option. Then if you want, when you get the Vista x86 version it will have a piece of paper in it telling you how you can obtain the x64 version. The x64 OS itself is free but there is like a $10 shipping charge which isnt so bad. I got mine in about a week and a half.

You will ONLY find OEM online with places such as Newegg.

OK cool thank you :respect: ..
 
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Well eventually, there will be enough games, DX10+, driver, and brand support to make Vista very viable option. I ran it from release to about the end of June...Ultimate x32 (expensive ass os for sure!), then I started having some issues with online games, my audio/voip support, and a couple other things that were more annoying than issues. My last run of Vista in early-mid Fall had shown improvements in all those areas. To me it still didn't feel as "snappy" as I liked, and I didn't like how long it'd take to boot up. Granted I have my 500gb seagate 'cuda 7200.9 sata II (yes the jumper is removed to enable Sata 300, I also tried both IDE and ACHI modes), but it only reads around 53MB/s in HDTach. I know that Superfetch needs a minute or two after Vista loads, and that's fine.

It just wasn't for me yet, I love how it looks, I like the navigation tweaks, and all the nice little touches here and there, and yes it was stable...I didn't really have crashes or issues, but for some reason I decided to go back to XP. I was hoping to try out SP1 RC for Vista, which came out about 3 weeks after I put XP back on, so I'm trying SP3 RC1 for XP, it did seem to make the OS snappier than it already was for me, and I really do like that.

As I said before, everyone has their preferences, and I no longer say Vista=ME 2, as they have improved it a bit since I ran it for the first half of the year. Yet there's still some things that just work better in XP. I will go back to Vista...it will happen, to most of us I'm sure. But maybe Windows 7 will be released sooner-than-later, and we may see what MS has on the horizon. I just hope there's a gamer's performance version if they keep doing this 4-different versions crap.

You can't knock it till ya tried it, and Vista is not for everyone, but there isn't an OS out there that's for everyone and their wants/needs. But it doesn't hurt to play on new turf to see if it's worth your money and time.

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TBH, I'd have to recommend holding off on installing Vista until at least SP1 is out and official. My father installed Vista Home Premium upgrade on his system, and Ive spent a lot of time trying to help him 'tweak' some peculiar issues that show up now and them.

And, to me, it just seems slow, even considering he's running 3 Barracuda 500GB SATA-300 HDDs in RAID 5, and I was still using PATA HDDs at the time - it just seemed like there was a massive delayed reaction trying to navigate through directories and all. Our CPUs are comparable, so . . .


maybe it's just me, though :confused:
 

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Can someone tell me if there is a difference between the OEM Vista, and the other retail versions?
 

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couldn't say for sure . . . but considering it's MS . . . I'd bet on it.
 

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To Vista because with Vista MS introduced a lot of things that aren't backward compatible with XP, like DX 10. You have to switch to Vista someday. Don't delay the inevitable.
 
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i would get vista ultimate, but costs the most, depends on what your willing to spend.

vista's security needs to be improved, better compatibility for hardware and software, more system optimizations, etc

Vista ultimate is good the only problem i had was programmes not working (Itunes) to name 1 but everythings working fine now even gaming.
 

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I can only imagine you overclock through windows if you cant overclock as well in vista? IMO bad idea anyways, I dual boot but not with a partition, with 2 seperate HDD's, I only use Vista Home Premium (OEM) to play DX10 games, I overclock through BIOS, HDD1 with vista or HDD2 with XP home all boot to 4.43Gig.....no worries!

If your concerned about Vista and IMO there is no BIG reason to be concerned, apart from the fact it is more resource hungry than XP (and some) and Ultimate is more resource hungry than Premium, then partition your HDD and dual boot, then you have choices, you wanna bench?....boot to XP, you wanna DX10 Game? boot to Vista.....simple really :D
 

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Go for Vista.
 
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Well once installed it just would not let me Over clock at all and that really made me mad . I sent it back .

Were you overclocking from the BIOS or from inside Windows itself?
 

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Were you overclocking from the BIOS or from inside Windows itself?

I was and only do overclock in the bios and once I set every thing back to what I had with XP (Stable) no go ! that I have to say right now is my biggest worry about Vista .
 
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Can someone tell me if there is a difference between the OEM Vista, and the other retail versions?

Supposedly the EULA are different. Apparently Vista OEM are tied to one particular motherboard. Then again, after my three reinstallations I had to call MS and they asked for what reason and if it was still on the same machine, I said yes and they gave me a code to imput and have since reinstalled Vista two more times with no problems.

Pretty much the only difference is price and what comes with it. OEM comes with just the disc and the CD key. Retail comes with a pretty box, manual, and some other shit thats useless (other than the instructions on how to get a x64 DVD of the OS)
 

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Yep, there is no performance difference between OEM and Retail Vista. I have OEM Ultimate which here in the UK was £120, compared to Retail Ultimate which is over £300. As CrAsHnBuRnXp says, the licensing for OEM means you're only technically allowed to install it on one machine, but calling MS if and when you upgrade the motherboard or need to transfer the OS License is all it takes to legalise it.

OEM comes with just the disk and a sticker with the key written on it. You can buy both 32-bit and 64-bit editions of OEM Vista.
 
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