2 PowerColor 4850 PCS dead in a week!!!!

newtekie1 · Oct 2, 2008

cdawall said:
they can run @ 90C thats were the cooler was designed to keep them at

I don't follow that logic. If that was true, there wouldn't be a large number of failed cards being returned. The failure rate on these cards is ridiculous, and I believe it is because they stock coolers are too small, and the fans are set too low by default.

cdawall · Oct 2, 2008

newtekie1 said:
I don't follow that logic. If that was true, there wouldn't be a large number of failed cards being returned. The failure rate on these cards is ridiculous, and I believe it is because they stock coolers are too small, and the fans are set too low by default.

i think its because of bad QC @nv and ATi most failures might have to do with increasing chip complexities and low bid silicon but that might just be me

twicksisted · Oct 2, 2008

this is why they have added fan control on the new CAT drivers no doubt.
I think most importantly they wanted to make the card quiet as it definately isnt at 60% fan... but fortunately you can keep it safely on 35% fan without frying it

Widjaja · Oct 2, 2008

Sounds like his seller may have been sent a bad batch of Powercolour HD4850s to me.
It happens.
I had a similar issue with 3 XFX 8800GT xXx VF830s dieing on me.
Only difference is one overheated while the others made an irritating noise from the capacitors.

My Sapphire HD4850 hasn't missed a beat and it hits 95degC max load at times.

nightbase · Oct 2, 2008

I bought this card but temperature is not low , on idle 54c on full load reaches 80c even at %100 fan speed and fan speed is not quiet at %100 fan speed ! why is so hot

cdawall · Oct 2, 2008

nightbase said:
I bought this card but temperature is not low , on idle 54c on full load reaches 80c even at %100 fan speed and fan speed is not quiet at %100 fan speed ! why is so hot

read this thread

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=72798

jeroenVDW · Oct 2, 2008

same problem

same problem,
4850 PCS worked for 2 days.
all of the sudden: black screen, fan stopped.
i have a sharkoon PSU silentstorm 120: 500-12A
the guy in the store also checked the card with another PSU, still dead.

pigo1973 · Oct 3, 2008

jeroenVDW said:
same problem,
4850 PCS worked for 2 days.
all of the sudden: black screen, fan stopped.
i have a sharkoon PSU silentstorm 120: 500-12A
the guy in the store also checked the card with another PSU, still dead.

So, I'm not the ony one I see....
One guy on Corsair forum had totally same situation, also.
I hope you will be smart (smarter then me) and take some of non-reference cards (or nVidia)!!

ALSO!!!
The tech support from PowerColor finally reply (after 3 e-mails)!!
Here is what thay said: :shadedshu:

twitch:

From your following list, I think your power supply could be a problem for 4850. The suggested power is at least 550W for 4850 environment.

And actually, if your electricity output is not stable, it will also affect your system.

Generic, bullshi* answer.
Here is the proof:
http://ati.amd.com/products/certified/powersupplies.html#pstop
Under Corsair - HX520 !!!!

Also:
http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd4800/requirements.html
Which say:
450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended

I reply to them:

would you be so kind I show me an official document from your company or ATI, where is written that user of a 4850 graphic card MUST have (or is recommended) a power supply unit of 550W.

More info will follow!!!

nightbase · Oct 3, 2008

cdawall said:
read this thread

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=72798

I don't need to read that thread ! This is a special cooling design card , but There is no difference from referance design :banghead:

on full load it reaches 85C , It mustn't happen like that
:confused:

Widjaja · Oct 4, 2008

Is it me or do I always notice someone having a problem with pre-overclocked graohics cards regardless of the make.

pigo1973 · Oct 18, 2008

Update:

Just got a new card from retailer... :toast:

It's going for sale now... no way I going to install it in my rig... :shadedshu
Strange thing, its serial number is only 3 numbers away from 2nd card I got (RMA one)...

It must be same batch!!!

And that is from second largest retailer in my country, with 20 shops in different towns!!!

IMHO, very strange...

DMF · Oct 18, 2008

nightbase said:
I don't need to read that thread ! This is a special cooling design card , but There is no difference from referance design on full load it reaches 85C , It mustn't happen like that

Stay ignorant if you want to :rolleyes:

, but 85°C is not too hot. It's well within spec.

Zubasa · Oct 19, 2008

nightbase said:
I don't need to read that thread ! This is a special cooling design card , but There is no difference from referance design on full load it reaches 85C , It mustn't happen like that

Well 85C full load will not kill a 4850.

stanhemi · Oct 19, 2008

just to let you know i run a sapphire 4850 whit a thermaltake tr2 430 watt and it run great.So i don't think it a psu failure (corsair 520hx)

pigo1973 · Oct 19, 2008

stanhemi said:
just to let you know i run a sapphire 4850 whit a thermaltake tr2 430 watt and it run great.So i don't think it a psu failure (corsair 520hx)

I know it isn't PSU... it has been tested and now I run 9800GT on it for 2-3 weeks...

I will get me a Gainward 4850 GS. It has in-house design by Palit / Gainward, 8 pin voltage connector, totally different VRM...

KaXaSA · Dec 28, 2008

that psu is great

guess what? similar problem here with my powercolor hd4850 :banghead:

got the same PSU corsair HX520, well my card isn't dead but it's a matter of time, my case isn't that great too it got 3x fans front/back 120 x 120 mm, 80 x 80 mm side near the processor, but they sux ¬¬.

ambient temperature 25ºC
IDLE: fan speed: 50% |GPU: 83ªC
LOAD: playing tf2 everything on high> fan speed: 90% |GPU: 99ªC
if I try to play COD WaW in 10 min gpu temperature reaches 106ªC+ and the pc shutdowns.

well ill try to return the card.. ¬¬ now I know why powercolor were cheaper than the others :mad:

AsRock · Dec 28, 2008

maybe it is heat but not the heat of the GPU \ram. Maybe the regs are getting to hot it is possible.

Like on my 2900XT i can keep the GPU and ram down 37c-55c full load but the regs are the issue and reach 70-79c.

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Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse	Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard	Keychron K8
Software	W10P

2 PowerColor 4850 PCS dead in a week!!!!

newtekie1

Semi-Retired Folder

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

twicksisted

Widjaja

nightbase

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

jeroenVDW

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pigo1973

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nightbase

Widjaja

pigo1973

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DMF

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Zubasa

stanhemi

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pigo1973

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KaXaSA

AsRock

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