The Store Owner I previously mentioned was NOT OC'ing the built rigs. In fact I can say with some certainty that they know very little about computing hardware and software, or indeed they lie, which comes down to money and profit margins.
That is NOT a way to run a business I am afraid.
I understand many of the points people make regarding architectures and understand why people can come round to thinking that way. But you must bare in mind that many things come down to planning.
Take for instance that many CPU's are mostly speed bumps or have bolt ons. These tend to come out far more often and the time span between rumour and release is fairly minimal. BUT if you look back some of the most ground breaking things have taken place when this time span has been huge. The number of times I have got fed up waiting for a CPU and then when released its a 'WOW' factor.
With Bulldozer I do not think I can think of a time when I have read about a forthcoming architecture for so long. If I had been at my computer for longer than I have waiting for it I would look like a grey haired ZZ Top reject!
So I strongly believe, and hoping, BD will deliver. I also hope that IB does too whenever that arrives. But as for all this conjecture about what will be released, when it will be released and what it will do when it is is daft, just smoke and mirrors.
I have often wondered whether or not staff from both companies come on and make false claims to 'muddy' the waters for the rest of us. Even these screenshots that turn out to be fake. I have seen a great deal worse from companies that have a much smaller annual turnover than either of these two.
However, saying that, I do find all that to be kind of funny. Sad it gets us end consumers into our little wars between each other, lol. Oftebn I see screenshots that are so obviously fake and notice people arguing about them but no one points out the obvious points. Like where one quoted showed Phenom II 6 core to be way faster than any of the SB's. AMD fanboy I am afraid to say lol.
Before too long I think the conjecture about either company and there products will cease. Reason? Blown comps because we have been drooling all over our keyboards at what is now possible lol.
There was a time when I used to drool over a 386DX, lmao.
Oh there is one other thing...
Let us say, for arguments sake, that Intel did indeed wake up after Athlon. In time intel produced some pretty cool architecture with the introduction of Core.
That is about the time Bulldozer was first being designed, or even thought about. I think the Core's introduction made AMD also realise they can not rest on their laurels.
As far as MONEY is concerned, let us not forget that as pointed out by so many people how big and the worth of intel. AMD are minnows in comparison, but... do you not think that there are powers that be that would like a slice of what intel has? Even if there are, or have been, doubts (from ..well rumours) do you not think that someone else will come along and SEE an oppurtunity.
That is, after all, the name of the game with these big corporates.
Just wish they would stop treating us like idiots, lol.
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Oh and I came real close to building a Core i5 2500K rig recently via Scan.. but then heard BD was imminent then about BD and IB in December and then I though...'for the love of god ...STOP!!' LMAO
