AMD Phenom II v. Intel Core i7

[FordGT90Concept]

I don't intend to overclock anything.

Q3 '09 I think is too long for me to wait.

I think that if I do anything, it will be in January.

 

[trickson]

LOL . I remember this happening when Phenom was about to come out every one was look it is 50% faster than C2D ! and all this and well in the end it was a flop !

 

[FordGT90Concept]

Phenom X4 is just a quad-core update to Athlon X2. Phenom II X4 is just a 45nm Phenom. Phenom was a flop so I think it's fair to say Phenom II will flop too. AMD is doomed to second place until they make significant changes (Phenom wasn't significant at all) to their architecture which isn't going to happen for a few more years (~2011).

 

[francis511]

Man , just as well you asked those questions here ! Every single one of those issues has been discussed on TPU in the last couplr of days. In my opinion phenoms compete with Intel on every level except overclocking. Intel chips rape amd chips on that level so stick with the blue behemoth if you`re buying a new build. Apparently Phenom 2 will oc much better than Phenom 1 but until we see a lot of statistics from all over the web , that sounds like wishful thinking.

 

[niko084]

Indeed $ per perf at stock clocks Intel and AMD are pretty on par with each other, maybe the Phenom II will change that maybe it will hold that, but I don't see anything coming out of their rear end that's going to dominate right now.

 

[dark2099]

I'm considering my options for upgrading and I'm not ready to settle on $700 for a Core i7 platform just yet. Here are my questions:

a) Is Phenom II expected to be equivilent or superior to Core i7?Too early to tell considering Phenom II scores are test chips
b) Are Core i7 prices expected to come down significantly at Phenom II's launch?No idea, but wouldn't be supprised.
c) When is NVIDIA planning to release a Core i7 compatible chipset?The X58 chipset runs both Crossfire and SLI, some will only run one of the two if it is a cheaper board
d) When is Intel planning to release mainstream chipsets for Core i7?I believe there is a P55 chipset in the works, or might have heard mention of it somewhere, but I would be supprised if they didn't
e) When are non-9## series Core i7 processors expected?Most likely, Core i5 has a tid bit on the main page if you scroll down some.
f) Will Phenom II work in already released AM2+ motherboards?Sorry, don't personally know
g) Is Phenom II expected to be DDR3-only like the Core i7?Again, don't know
h) Core i7 is Hyper-Threaded while Phenom II is not; how much will that hurt Phenom II's multithreaded performance (eight threads compared to four)?I think we will have to wait and see on this one.
i) Is Phenom II tri-channel or dual-channel memory?Sorry, don't know.

I'm trying to establish what is the best to buy and when is the best time to buy it. I'm not looking any farther than Q1 2009.

Answers are in red.