AMD Phenom II X6 Processors Start Shipping

[Wile E]

Dammit. It seems it's really only on par with an i7 w/HT on clock for clock in encoding. I was really hoping for a better showing. Given that the Intels clock just as well, but the platform is more flexible, I now don't know what I should do. I had expected x6 to be better, and had therefore planned to go that route for the 24/7 rig, but now I may have to go with a second X58 rig instead.

 

[Melvis]

Iam very pleased with the performance i have seen so far from those reviews (ill still wait for wizzards tho), anywhere from a i920 to a i975 depending on the app, and for a cheaper price, i think that's excellent. Im not interested in the gaming scores so that doesn't concern me as i think 4 cores is plenty for gaming. Shame i haven't seen any pop up on sale here in AUS yet, i did find 3 on Ebay tho, but none from a computer online store. But im ready to order my new work station computer now

 

[Mussels]

Dammit. It seems it's really only on par with an i7 w/HT on clock for clock in encoding. I was really hoping for a better showing. Given that the Intels clock just as well, but the platform is more flexible, I now don't know what I should do. I had expected x6 to be better, and had therefore planned to go that route for the 24/7 rig, but now I may have to go with a second X58 rig instead.

You dont have a budget, but for those who do, the fact you can make an AM3 rig for a lot less than an intel rig, is the kicker.


$200 for CPU
$150 for decent mobo (hell even 785G is good enough)
$200 for 4GB awesome ram

~$600 for a 6 core backbone, when a good i7 mobo is $400 + on its own

 

[CDdude55]

If i had an AMD mobo i would pick one up.

But my i7 is still smoking anything i do.

 

[PaulieG]

You dont have a budget, but for those who do, the fact you can make an AM3 rig for a lot less than an intel rig, is the kicker.


$200 for CPU
$150 for decent mobo (hell even 785G is good enough)
$200 for 4GB awesome ram

~$600 for a 6 core backbone, when a good i7 mobo is $400 + on its own

Let me preface this by saying that one of my rigs will be an AMD x6 over the next day or so. Actually, I've been hoping for years that AMD will give me a reason to bring my primary rig back to them. They just haven't.

The idea that a good 1366 motherboard on it's own will cost you $400 is simply not true. Right now, you can almost get an i7 rig for the price of an AM3 6 core rig. First, you grab a 920/930 from Microcenter for $200. If you do not have one close, there are a dozen of reputable members here who will grab one for you. Then grab one of these higher end boards:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128422
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188046

Then match it with one of these sets of sticks:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227501
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231247

Despite what you chose here, you are still hovering around $600, or just a bit over. Just felt I needed to address the myth that i7 is so out of reach compared to AMD. It's just not. That being said, I am going to buy a 1090T for one of my AMD crunching rigs later today.

 

[mdm-adph]

Dammit. It seems it's really only on par with an i7 w/HT on clock for clock in encoding. I was really hoping for a better showing. Given that the Intels clock just as well, but the platform is more flexible, I now don't know what I should do. I had expected x6 to be better, and had therefore planned to go that route for the 24/7 rig, but now I may have to go with a second X58 rig instead.

Nice astroturf. I don't know of anyone who expected the x6 to be faster than an i7 clock-for-clock -- a better value, yes, of course, but not faster. As is, it's faster than any similarly priced 4-core i7 on anything multithreaded.

What do you mean by Intel's platform being more "flexible," too? Considering that I can get one AMD motherboard and run anything from a 4-year-old Athlon X2 to a new Athlon II X6, I don't really see where you get off saying that...

 

[H82LUZ73]

For any Ontario Canadians here is the ASUS Crosshair IV $249 is a good price.http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_340&item_id=030979

Sadly no PHx6 yet ......

In response to Paul, here is a I7 board well look .....http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_342&item_id=020671

Not saying AMD or Intel will be more or less but there is mobos out there in the $400 range.

I`m just saying depends on where you live the prices are more or less then the states,an I7 940 is $599 here ....so AMD is the other option.

Lets see
EVGA Classifed $458 + I7 940 $599 +14% tax=$1100 to $1200 that is if you want high end performance.

 

[PaulieG]

For any Ontario Canadians here is the ASUS Crosshair IV $249 is a good price.http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_340&item_id=030979

Sadly no PHx6 yet ......

In response to Paul, here is a I7 board well look .....http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_342&item_id=020671

Not saying AMD or Intel will be more or less but there is mobos out there in the $400 range.

Of course ther are $400 boards, but $200-$250 boards are far more common, and readily available, which is my point. Anyway, that Crosshair IV looks awesome.

 

[Mussels]

Let me preface this by saying that one of my rigs will be an AMD x6 over the next day or so. Actually, I've been hoping for years that AMD will give me a reason to bring my primary rig back to them. They just haven't.

The idea that a good 1366 motherboard on it's own will cost you $400 is simply not true. Right now, you can almost get an i7 rig for the price of an AM3 6 core rig. First, you grab a 920/930 from Microcenter for $200. If you do not have one close, there are a dozen of reputable members here who will grab one for you. Then grab one of these higher end boards:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128422
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188046

Then match it with one of these sets of sticks:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227501
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231247

Despite what you chose here, you are still hovering around $600, or just a bit over. Just felt I needed to address the myth that i7 is so out of reach compared to AMD. It's just not. That being said, I am going to buy a 1090T for one of my AMD crunching rigs later today.

wrong country. i dont get prices anywhere near those.

 

[PaulieG]

wrong country. i dont get prices anywhere near those.

I figured as much.

 

[Wile E]

Nice astroturf. I don't know of anyone who expected the x6 to be faster than an i7 clock-for-clock -- a better value, yes, of course, but not faster. As is, it's faster than any similarly priced 4-core i7 on anything multithreaded.

What do you mean by Intel's platform being more "flexible," too? Considering that I can get one AMD motherboard and run anything from a 4-year-old Athlon X2 to a new Athlon II X6, I don't really see where you get off saying that...

I expected it to be faster than the quad core i7's w/HT in clock for clock. I thought for sure 6 real cores would be faster than 4 real + 4 HT. It is not.

And more flexible, as in I can run SLI or Crossfire. I'm not limited in my graphics choices. I'm not one that gives a damn about reverse compatibility. I have no need for it. I also have no need for future proofing, as I generally do a full rebuild every couple of years, which includes a new mobo and cpu anyway.

 

[Mussels]

AM2+ boards now have bios updates from gigabyte. my 785G AM2+ just got support